HomeMy WebLinkAbout7/26/2005 Minutes - Special Study SessionCITY OF DIAMOND BAR
CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL STUDY SESSION
JULY 26, 2005
STUDY SESSION: Mayor Chang called the Study Session to order
at 5:00 p.m. in Room CC -8 of the South Coast Air Quality Management
District/Government Center, 21865 Copley Dr., Diamond Bar, CA.
Present: Council Members Herrera, Tanaka, Zirbes,
Mayor Pro Tem O'Connor and Mayor Chang.
Also Present: Linda Lowry, City Manager; Michael Jenkins,
City Attorney; David Doyle, Assistant City Manager; James DeStefano, Assistant
City Manager; David Liu, Director of Public Works; Bob Rose, Community
Services Director; Linda Magnuson, Finance Director and Tommye Cribbins,
Executive Assistant.
► Library Ballot Measureiscussion
0.Public Comments on St dy Session Items
LIBRARY BALLOT MEASURE
ACM/Doyle reported that during
interest in placing a ballot meas
of the Diamond Bar Library. It
$13,500,000. Due to time constr;
order to develop a ballot measur
to Council for approval no later 1
question of what amount the
construction of the facility - sce
with the City financing $10.5 milli
cost and going out to bond for
bonding $5 million. All scenarios
ACM/Doyle stated that an addi-
costs once the facility was consti
realize about $400,000 additions
portion of their property tax conte
cost. The $400,000 could be pai
through an annual assessment fi
whether the Council wants to pl
the ballot or whether the Council
estimated $400,000 additional or
ACM/Doyle explained that the 1
of available financing options in
USSION:
the July 19 Study Session, Council indicated its
ire on the November ballot to fund construction
is estimated that the facility would cost about
tints staff needs direction from Council tonight in
notice the public and bring the ballot measure
han August 12, 2005. Before the Council, is the
Council intends to contribute toward the
iarios include: the City contributing $3 million
Dn; the City contributing about half of the project
�7 million; and, the City contributing more and
are based on a 30 -year bond projection.
anal consideration was the ongoing operating
acted. Staff estimates that the new facility would
cost over what the residents currently pay as a
bution for a total of about $1.4 million operating
i by the City or passed along to the community
r the life of the property. Tonight's discussion is
ce a hundred percent of the operating cost on
would consider a 50 percent contribution of the
:rating costs.
portion of the discussion involved discussion
unction with a November election.
JULY 26, 2005 PAGE 2 CC STUDY SESSION
ACM/Doyle referred Council to the upda
packet. The first option asks the Cit,
contributing the difference of $8.5 millio
parcel to debt service the bond. This
would pay 100% of the ongoing increas
$22.51 for a combined annual parcel i
conclusion of 30 years the assessmE
operating costs only. The operation a
escalator so that every year the assessn
index. Option 2 includes 100% of the
assumes a 50/50 partnership for constr
City paying about $6.5 million and the r
debt service for construction only amour
additional ongoing operating expenses.
million with the residents bonding $10.5
on the bond issue with the $22.51 for a
basis.
:ed MuniFinancial options included in the
to pay $5 million with the residents
i. The Community would pay $20.73 per
scenario assumes that the Community
in operating expenses for an additional
ieasure of $43.24 for 30 years. At the
nt would drop down to the additional
sts would be put in place with a CPI
ent would increase according to the CPI
ongoing additional operating costs and
fiction costs. Another scenario finds the
,sidents paying $7 million with the bond
ting to $28.61 per parcel plus $22.51 for
Option 3 proposes that the City pay $3
million at a cost of $42.38 debt service
total of $64.89 per parcel on an annual
ACM/Doyle stated that staff's previous report provided 2002 survey information
that indicated a bond measure would be more likely to pass with a lower
assessment. A $30-40 range garnered a 60% approval from those residents who
were surveyed with 100 percent of theadditional costs paid by the City. Dropping
the ongoing operating costs to a 50/5 split and bonding out $5 million for
construction with the City contributing $8.5 million the per parcel rate for the debt
service only is $20.73, and'a parcel tax rate for the operations costs of $11.25 for
a total of $31.98. Table II indicates a true 50/50 partnership with the City
contributing one-half of the construction cost and ongoing increased operating
costs and the residents contributing one-] ialf of the construction cost and ongoing
increased operating costs. This scenar o results in a $28.61 assessment for
construction and $11.25 for ongoing increased operating costs for a total annual
30 -year assessment of $39.86. Table 11indicates the City's contribution of $3
million with a $10.5 million contribution from the residents through the ballot
measure with a debt service amount of $A2,38 per parcel on an annual basis with
ongoing increased operating costs (50percent) of $11.25 for a total 30 -year
parcel measure of $53.63.
Council discussion ensued.
C/Herrera asked if the operating
homeowners currently pay.
ACM/Doyle responded that the residents
$1 million toward the cost of operating the
operating costs would include the addition
time positions.
included the $1.2 million that the
are currently paying slightly more than
current library. The additional ongoing
two full time positions and several part
JULY 26, 2005 PAGE 3 CC STUDY SESSION
MPT/O'Connor asked if some County libraries were subsidized beyond the
amount of the property tax collec ed through tax assessments in certain cities.
ACM/Doyle said absolutely and PT/O'Connor asked why D.B. was not included
in such a plan. ACM/Doyle said he believed the County told D.B. it did not have
the money to run the library and that D.B. was asked to increase its assessment
and responded that it was paying its fair share and would not further tax the
residents. In fact, certain communities pay more than they receive from the
County.
C/Zirbes asked the cost of servi a from the County as opposed to the City going
on its own.
ACM/Doyle responded that the numbers were very close. LSSI argued that the
City would have much more local control were they to run the program rather
than the County running the prop am.
MPT/O'Connor wanted to kn
exempted from the parcel tax.
CA/Jenkins explained that there
City would determine the age, in(
City does not have a lot of time
be to use the same criteria the
reference to the program in tl
documentation to qualify.
if senior citizens, disabled, etc. could be
re ways to include lifeline type exemptions. The
ome eligibility, etc. The only problem is that the
o consider these issues. Another option would
utilities uses for its lifeline service by making
e ordinance. The homeowner would submit
M/Chang said he would prefer to�have consideration based on low income rather
than providing a blanket exempti n for all seniors.
C/Herrera asked if exemptions
contribution by other parcels.
ACM/Doyle said he did not kn
and did not know how quickly ;
CM/Lowry pointed out that the uti
because there are more househo
certain groups would mean an increase in the
how many people would qualify for exemption
could obtain the information.
s would not necessarily have the information
than there are parcels in the City.
M/Chang felt that based on the City's experience with Neighborhood
Improvement the number of peo le who would qualify under low-income status
would be minimal.
C/Zirbes pointed out that the School District lost its bid for a bond assessment
and voters claimed that exemptio s were unfair.
MPT/O'Connor asked the amou4of the bond issue.
JULY 26, 2005 PAGE 4 CC STUDY SESSION
C/Herrera remembered that it was about $60 per parcel. The issue failed with 61
percent of the approval vote because it needed a 67% percent majority to pass.
MPT/O'Connor felt that people would
Because the Walnut School District we
about whether the City would be able to
vote favorably on educational matters.
unsuccessful she would be concerned
)ass the library bond assessment.
C/Zirbes felt that one of the downfalls o the Walnut School District plan was the
inclusion of the exemption for seniors because some did not understand the
exemption and others did not apprecia a the exemption. If the library measure
goes to a vote of the people the consideration should be focused on how the
measure could be moved forward an what residents would argue "for" and
"against."
C/Tanaka said it would depend on
assessment were on the low end,
exemption.
M/Chang said that if the City were to
it be based on income rather than on
Public Comments:
Jerry Hamilton felt that the seniors were
would campaign against this measure
proposal. Many seniors moved to D.B
purchase homes for $600,000 plus. ;
security does not provide an adequate
taxes etc, and many seniors do not ha
assessments when utility bills are incre�
The residents want a library, a pool, etc.
for these facilities he believed that mar
opposition.
amount of the assessment. If the
instead of $60 there should be no
sider an exemption he would prefer that
alone.
taxed beyond their means and said he
is he did against the school measure
in the 1960's and 70's and did not
n1niors have some income but social
income to pay for medical, increased
,e the means to pay for additional tax
sing and other costs are skyrocketing.
tut when the residents are asked to pay
seniors would speak out and vote in
Marsha Hawkins said she appreciated Jerry Hamilton's remarks and the fact that
he stood up for the seniors. She would like to see the City Council attempt to
address that issue and ask the seniors what would appeal to them about this
project and proposed assessment. She would also like for the City to figure out a
way to move this forward because this m -asure must embrace all demographics.
She would especially like for the seniors to be targeted in consideration of a
ballot measure to see what would make t attractive and move it along. She said
she knows of seniors who are in favor of the ballot measure and will be
campaigning for it because the new librar 1 would be beneficial to them and would
increase their property values.
Kathleen Newe agreed with Marsha I
consideration the residents of D.B. For
kips that the Council should take into
ample, certain scenarios such as
J U LY 26, 2005
PAGE 5 CC STUDY SESSION
$35.82 would be much more appealing to seniors and lower income residents.
Because of the limited time in getting this measure on the ballot everyone needs
to work together and present thE most palatable measure possible. She said that
in her opinion it would be a ter Ible thing for the measure to be placed on the
ballot only to have it voted d wn. She believed that Hacienda Heights and
Rowland Heights voted in favor f a special assessment for their library.
Lydia Plunk asked the Council to consider that demographics information would
not necessarily provide the kind of information needed to move this measure
forward. When her husband was out of work for two years they would never have
qualified as low-income. It is not just about pitting the young against the old.
There are many lines on the pr perty tax bill and if each line were increased by
$30 it would bear consideration. She asked the Council Members to consider all
aspects of the issue and do whz t they felt was right to do. While it is great that
property values increase when you are living in a house and have no intention of
selling your property it matter7 little that property values are increasing if
expenses exceed income.
Ruth Low felt this was a golden opportunity for the community that had been
discussed for years and that people had been requesting for several years. She
challenged the residents and Council to say who would pay for a new library if
not the residents? If the residents do not make it happen it will not happen and
the chances of it ever happening will grow slimmer and dimmer over time.
Mike Shay felt that people need
residents were willing to get be
the swimming pool issue they
what are the right things to do
educating the people for the
impossible to attempt to please
these kinds of issues and so too
J to be educated. He pointed out that unless the
nd the library issue, sports complex issue and
)uld not happen. The Council needs to decide
>r the community and get behind the issue by
ood of the community because it would be
veryone on every issue. Other cities get behind
an D.B.
Jack Newe asked people to consider how much it hurt them financially to go out
and rent one movie each month because that would be about the cost to each
household per month and the benefit would include additional services to the
youth and seniors. He asked re idents and Council not to sell the community
short because a new library woul provide more benefits to the community than it
would cost the residents.
Wanda Tanaka said that last week the library had to turn away children who
wanted to attend a special presentation because there was no room.
Tony Torng felt that ACM/Doyle's oint that a new library would now cost the City
$13.5 million instead of $10 million estimated two years ago was a point worth
considering and if D.B. did not moie forward now it would not be able to catch up
with inflation. A library is very important to the quality of life for children and for
seniors.
JULY 26, 2005 PAGE 6 CC STUDY SESSION
Mrs. Hamilton said that she did not be ieve the library had to be huge like the
Diamond Bar Center that is rented out to cover the cost. A new library will not be
rented out for anything else. The number of people that normally use a library is
not 92 people per hour. Special events attract more people but it does not make
up a quarter of a million people using the library. She agreed that the parking for
the current facility was inadequate but felt that there were other solutions such as
using the old Alpha Beta building that was located close to schools and much
more accessible to the general public The idea that seniors would walk up
Grand Ave. to a library was in her opinion somewhat preposterous. She felt that
since D.B. had just turned 16 it was acting like a teenager that wanted all of the
bells and whistles. One small group wan s a library and other groups want a pool
and sports complex. The Walnut School issue was voted down because it was
an additional tax burden. Adding facilitiess results in millions and millions of dollars
of cost to the homeowners and once people vote "yes" there is no end. Someone
said that this was not a tax but a contribution to the community. It is not a
contribution when the tax bill comes anc individuals have to pay the bill. It is an
assessment - it is a tax. She felt there w 3re other avenues such as grant monies
and foundation contributions and she wz s not opposed to having a new library if
it could be financed without placing another debt on the homeowners. By the
time the current library was built it woul J probably exceed $13.5 million in cost
that would result in a larger assessment to each parcel. Kids have computers at
home and at their schools. Kids do not vi 3it the library to check out books as they
did years ago.
M/Chang closed public comments.
C/Herrera said she realized that some homeowners felt tapped out. if the City
contributed $8.5 million the additional $5 million would come from the reserves
that included reserves set aside for the pursuit of economic development. The
point was made that when a new library actually gets built it could cost more and
the City would therefore be asked to pa more. For the City to be able to afford
its current debt it needs economic develo ment money for leverage and incentive
to attract new businesses to the comm nity in order to generate additional tax
revenue to the City, She felt that the Council could not, in good conscience, take
money from economic development. The other money is being held in reserve in
case the City wants to pay off the bond that it used to build the community
center. A tragedy could befall the City that would require it to reduce its debt.
Once the funds are gone, they are gone and there is much uncertainty about
funding from the State. D.B. was fortunat this year because it received money it
was not expecting. However, D.B. may n A be so lucky next year and there may
be other major business decisions that would require the City to dip into its
reserves. Legislators are discussing re oing the State's financial system and
taking away gasoline sales tax which is D.B.'s biggest revenue source -
$800,000 per year. The speaker of the house wants to convert those taxes into
other taxes. Because the future is so uncertain it seems imprudent to take any
more than $3 million from the City's reserves.
JULY 26, 2005 PAGE 7 CC STUDY SESSION
C/Zirbes felt that $3 million was
City at risk. The audience and re
Members to keep the City safe a
hold on the purse strings of th
construction is a guess because
construct the library. If the projec
good for the additional cost dif
residents should have a right to
per month to the residents. Thi
biggest of which is based upon
would be a mistake to pull that r
the sake of trying to pass a ball
adopt Table 111.
i fair contribution amount that would not put the
sidents have indicated they look to their Council
,id exercise strong leadership. Keeping a strong
a City is important. The $13 million figure for
the City really does not know what it will take to
t costs $17 million the City would have to stand
erence. If the community wants a library, the
express their views. In reality the cost is $5.30
re are a lot of line items on the tax bills the
the assessed value of the property. He felt it
umber down and put the City's future at risk for
of initiative. He recommended that the Council
C/Tanaka said that over the yeas Council had done an excellent job of holding
its reserves in check but felt that it was prudent to put the measure on the ballot
at the lowest cost to the residents because it would be a good investment for the
City and its future. He felt the residents wanted the City to take a risk and not
burden them with an additional tax assessment.
MPT/O'Connor said she agreed
ballot to allow the citizens an opp
library will never be less than it i;
the City had built the facility two
said she agreed with C/Zirbes th+
increased $1.5 million over the e
forward now. The City's intent
Community Center and the citizi
issue. She said she had not pars,
how they felt about a new libraq
place the matter on the ballot.
that this matter needed to be placed on the
�rtunity to voice their opinion. The cost of a new
today and will likely be more than it is today. If
ears ago it might have saved $3.5 million. She
t because the cost of the Diamond Bar Center
iginal estimate the library project should move
was always to place a library next to the
ns have a right to vote "Yes" or "No" on the
nally gone into the community to ask residents
and believed the only way to find out was to
ACM/Doyle stated that based on the survey and given the short amount of time
to place the measure on the ballot and promote it in the public arena, the
possibility of moving from a 52 percent approval to a 66 percent approval was
highly unlikely.
M/Chang felt that the reason the City wanted to build a library was because the
community was driven to make it happen, the same reason the City built the
Community Center. He believed that no Council Member had an agenda to build
a new library. For many years construction of a community center and library had
been a top goal for the City and it had been a direction of the community and the
Council to carry out the wishes of the residents. The City is 16 years and
compared to other cities D.B. is a young City. The City is doing well financially
because the Council Members and staff are conservative. The question is for
what is the money being saved. Money is generally saved for matters of urgency
and to improve the quality of life. The community center was built and now
JULY 26, 2005 PAGE 8 CC STUDY SESSION
provides a great value to the residents and he believed the library would serve
the community in the same manner. The City already spent $1.2 million on site
improvements for the library. The Ci y is working on improving its income
resources because of the unpredictabili of gas tax revenue and other budgetary
concerns. He felt that the Council was rr oving forward to fulfill the people's goals.
At the same time he understood residents' concerns about being taxed any
further. He likes to think of this assessment as a "contribution" rather than a tax
because the library belongs to all of the residents. Because the City was
unsuccessful in its bid to obtain grant f nds to build a new library Council it was
time to put the matter to a vote of the pe ple.
MPT/O'Connor responded to a questionlabout the survey that fifty-five percent of
the people that were surveyed were 50 years of age or older.
M/Chang continued stating that regard
always those in favor and those oppose
he asked the residents to please supl
Council approve the 50/50 scenario res
per year ($3.50 per month) per parcel foi
:ss of any proposed project there are
. This facility is for all of the people and
ort the venture. He proposed that the
Iting in an assessment of about $40.00
30 years.
C/Zirbes asked staff for an accounting of the revenue loss to the City on $8
million contribution.
ACM/Doyle explained that the City's contribution would be $6.5 million and the
actual "real dollar" loss of income to the City would be about $195,000 per year.
With respect to the City's budget the ongoing operating expenses would add
$200,000 to the budget.
C/Zirbes asked how the City could afford to pay $200,000 for ongoing operating
expenses when it would lose $200,000 i interest revenue?
CM/Lowry explained that in theory the
fund balance carryover for capital proj
by $200,000.
C/Zirbes felt it was a "big apple to bite."
M/Chang pointed out that by bringing Bui
save a minimum of $100,000 a year anc
render the City more efficient. The comrr
economic development and stay optimi:
good investment for the community
unreasonable under the 50/50 scenario.
C/Zirbes said he would agree to a num
City contribution of about $5 million. The
now and he would not like for the City to
would be whole by using more of its
or reduce the annual capital projects
ding and Safety in-house the City would
he felt there was always other ways to
unity needs to work on bringing in more
tic about the future. A new library is a
and the parcel assessment is not
r between the $3 and $8 million for a
immunity is paying the operating costs
d itself not having the money
JULY 26, 2005
available to keep the library
than $2 per month for the re:
M/Chang felt the City could sa
facility.
C/Zirbes said he did not know
PAGE 9 CC STUDY SESSION
open. The additional operating costs are less
$200,000 in operating costs by running the
the City could shave their overhead.
M/Chang said the City could ask the County to shave their costs or take over the
facility and shave the costs.
C/Zirbes pointed out that the City adds items to its budget every year. To date,
there have not been many projects to fill the economic development pipeline.
With what the City is losing and what it knows is coming in the budget it will be
less than it was two years ago. In order for him to be comfortable he would need
assurance that the City could a ord the $200,000 because a Sears Essentials
was moving into the City for example. Or, that the City could afford to pay for the
bond on its own because a large auto mail was moving into the City. Or, that the
City just annexed property off of the SR 57 that was all commercial and the City
would realize revenue from tho a projects. D.B. does not have those things
today. The reality is that the Cithas money in the bank and debt obligations, a
large family of staff and 60,000 p us people wanting the Council to be responsible
with the reserve dollars. At the e id of the day this is the citizens' money and the
Council needs to be prudent abut how it moves forward to ensure that a new
facility can afford to keep its door open.
M/Chang felt this was a good pr,
Community Center and the neic
City has already spent $1.2 mill
move on. And he would like to rr
way to manage the money. Un
residents a very reasonable proji
D.B. and provide a great deal of r
would provide revenue to the City
better cycle than it was two year
Center will happen. By the time t
implement many economic devel
more income. The City's bigger
operating costs.
►ject for the future of D.B. Everyone enjoys the
iborhood is complimented by the facility. The
:)n and it can either sit on that expenditure or
ave on because the City has the money and a
ler his scenario the City would be giving the
pct. He felt that Sears Essential would come to
,,venue to the City. If not, another company that
would come to D.B. in its place. The City is in a
; ago and it knows that the Country Hills Town
ie library is constructed the City will be able to
)pment projects. Site D also offers potential for
t risk is on the $200,000 additional ongoing
C/Zirbes pointed out that the City is also losing $200,000 on the lost operating
revenue. He asked ACM/Doyle h w quickly the new library would be constructed
if the ballot issue were approved in November.
ACM/Doyle responded that if the bond measure passed in November the bonds
would probably not be issued until the bond market was more favorable. In the
meantime design work and archit cts and engineering work could move forward
JULY 26, 2005
PAQE 10 CC STUDY SESSION
and be completed in nine months or sc
until a contractor was hired and constru
months after award of contract.
It would most likely be a year or longer
ion would probably commence 14 to 16
C/Zirbes asked if the estimate of 13.5 million to complete construction
considered the three-year timeline.
ACM/Doyle responded that staff built a three-year escalator into the 35%
increase and based the $13.5 million on the original estimate using those factors.
M/Chang felt that the Friends of the
for construction of the library.
C/Herrera pointed out that if the City
additional cost to hire and pay em
additional operating expenses to the Ci
M/Chang said he believed that if the Coi
for $1.4 million the City could run th.
additional $200,000 operating expenses
C/Zirbes said he felt it would be great f
He knows that the kids use home com
they do not have a facility that provi
information. He felt a new library would
He also believed that $5 per month as it
scenario to members of the community.
believed that whether the cost was $3
purpose. The people of the community h
new library at the top of the hill is somet
matter whether it was $3 per month or $;
them whether the City officials were tryin
put other things at risk such as staff, car
development. He felt that Table III
circumstances. He said he could remem
straights and the City gave money to the
with very limited hours and that he wog
position again without ensuring that the r
Valley - could keep its doors open.
M/Chang agreed that if the people wan
reason he recommended the 50150 scei
feel more comfortable to approve the pr
be better for the project if people were rn
some cases people care about paying ;
more per year per parcel. He would be pl
would mount an effort to raise funds
to run the library there would be an
es over and above the $200,000
ty or private sector could run the library
facility for $1.2 million and save the
)r the community to have a new library.
)uters but perhaps they do so because
les them 21St Century accessibility to
add a new dimension to the community.
dicated in Table 111 offered an affordable
:or him it boiled down to whether people
)r $5 a month it would not change their
ave to believe as Council believes that a
ling they want and for them it would not
per month. It would, however, matter to
g to falsely dilute the $5 down to $3 and
ital improvement projects and economic
was the best scenario under the
ber a time when the County was in dire
County to keep the library doors open
Id not want the City to put itself in that
ew library - the jewel of the San Gabriel
the library they should pay for it. The
►rio was because he felt people would
ect on that basis. He also felt it would
arguing about who would pay for it. In
more. In this case it amounts to $14
ased if the Council could reach a
JULY 26, 2005
PAGE 11 CC STUDY SESSION
consensus and the residents would support the proposal by approving a
reasonable assessment.
C/Zirbes said that $14 was about a dollar a month and it would keep the City safe
and keep the library doors open.
C/Tanaka felt that $1 per month would make the difference between someone
voting approval or disapproval.
C/Zirbes disagreed.
C/Tanaka felt that the term "tax" ad a negative connotation. Bottom line was that
it would be a "tax" and not a "contribution." Because the project was very
important to the City and to the residents and youth it needed to be positive and it
needed to move forward. His feeling was that he would like to have the residents
taxed the lowest amount possi le. However, 50/50 would be his compromise.
With the excellent staff and thei hard work and the Council practicing fiduciary
responsibilities the City is very fiscally responsible. The opportunity presents
itself now and it would be too expensive to build later on. There is an opportunity
now to do something positive an if the Council Members are risk -takers and the
leaders and the visionary body that can lead the City forward to the next level the
Council needs to step up ands pport the project 100 percent. Once the Council
reaches a consensus every Council Member needs to engage in an education
program to inform the public. 01 almost every issue the public is not aware of
what is happening in the City u iless the press reports it accurately and in this
case the people would not otherNise know the benefits to the community. As an
example, one of the projects ft at the press misrepresented in the paper was
information that discussed 180 r sidential units being built above Target and now
in addition to that there would be another 180 units and that is the way that it was
reported in the newspaper.
C/Herrera said she did not bE
Members to take risks with their
Council in order to make the pu
this body chooses. She empha
strong fiscal responsibility to m
future solvency of the City and sl
She would not be able to suppo
contributes $3 million and th
construction and the ongoing op(
C/Zirbes said he agreed with Ci
grant funds the Council agreed t
the Council told the community v
The application failed and the
complete the project. Therefore,
toward the project and ask the re
ieve that the residents expected the Council
money and Council Members do not sit on the
)lie more comfortable about what dollar amount
ized that she believed the Council had a very
ke certain that monies were set aside for the
e would not take action to risk the City's coffers.
t any other scenario than one in which the City
homeowners pay for the balance of the
ration.
-lerrera. When the City applied to the State for
give the project $2.5 million and that was what
as the City's investment toward the new library.
',ouncil wants to continue to move forward to
the City should offer up the initial seed money
;idents if they are willing to support the issue.
JULY 26, 2005
PAGE 12 CC STUDY SESSION
Table III offers the best solution becaus
project. When he served on the task for
of $5.5 and now that figure is $13.5 mil
this matter on the ballot to give the publ
And this is an affluent community an
libraries in the East San Gabriel Valle,
difference of $1 per month per parcel t
security and security that the library do
levels would remain up. He reiterated th
MPT/O'Connor wondered whether the
than proposed would the assessment
assumption that the library would c�
Municipal Bond Attorney, explained
maximum rate for the bond and if it �A
levy could be reduced by Council ordin
MPT/O'Connor said she was comfo
agree to Table III.
the Council is assuming a $13.5 million
;e the body assumed a total project cost
on. There is no doubt the Council wants
an opportunity to say it wants a library,
I this City will have the showplace of
. When the discussion boils down to a
e opposite side of the coin is the City's
yrs would remain open and the staffing
t he favored Table III.
1ual cost to build the library was lower
set for the 30 -year period based on the
$13.5 million to build. Brian Jewett,
t the parcel tax would be set at the
determined that less was required the
with Table III or Table II and would
C/Zirbes moved, C/Herrera seconded, to approve Table III.
M/Chang recessed the Study Session at :45
M/Chang reconvened the Study Session at 6:50
C/Tanaka said the project was important and he wanted to see it succeed and in
his opinion, it would only succeed if th tax were kept at the lowest possible
amount.
M/Chang appreciated the motion and
was serious about moving forward to
the initiative.
He said he agreed with C/Tanaka and rE
assessment around $40 and believe
unacceptable to the residents and espec
d because it showed that the Council
the matter on the ballot and support
:rated that he would prefer to keep the
that anything over that would be
ly the senior citizens.
C/Zirbes asked M/Chang if he were willi g to vote for Option 11 wherein the City
would pay $3 million plus the overrun and 50/50 on the ongoing additional
operating costs.
M/Chang and C/Tanaka agreed.
M/Chang asked C/Zirbes if he would cosider dropping the assessment amount
from $65 to $40 because he believed it would help the seniors support the
program.
JULY 26, 2005
PAGE 13 CC STUDY SESSION
C/Zirbes felt the best way to build the library was for the City to just build it but
the City did not have the money to build it. The City saved and saved and
decided to pay cash to build the community center. At the end of the day and at
the 11t" hour the Council decide it would leave the City in a bad cash position
and wanted money for economi development so the City borrowed money to
pay for the community center. So that money is really dedicated to economic
development and the City shoulc not be using economic development monies to
build a library or city hall or anything else because that was not the purpose of
the loan. The best way to build a library is to pay cash for it but the City is not in a
position to do so. And, the City is not in the best cash position at this time. He
believed that given the unknown variables that could occur and that the Council
had to make a decision at this point in history and fix an exact amount that the
Council would ask the residents to pay on a parcel tax without Knowing what else
would happen and what future budgets might look like $50 a year versus $60 a
month.
M/Chang said he respected C Zirbes' concerns from the standpoint of the
financial condition of the City and he agreed with a solid fiscal approach.
MPT/O'Connor said she was concerned about the City dropping its reserves
down to $7 million. Option III anc paying half of the additional ongoing operating
costs would put the City at $3-5 million coming out of the City's reserves and she
felt it was a much more comfortable position for the City.
C/Zirbes revised his motion to ap rove Table III - $11 bond issue with the City to
pay the remainder of the construction cost and split the additional ongoing
operating costs 50/50 ($200,0010 from the City annually and $200,000 plus
escalation from the residents). /Herrera seconded the revised motion. Motion
carried by the following Roll Calivote:
AYES: COUNCIL MEMBERS: Herrera, Tanaka, Zirbes,
MPT/O'Connor, M/Chang
NOES: COUNCIL MEMBERS: None
ABSENT: COUNCIL MEMBE S: None
DISCUSSION OF AVAILABLE FINANCING OPTIONS IN CONJUNCTION
WITH A NOVEMBER ELECTION:
Chris Fisher, MuniFinancial, sta
November ballot the Council wo
election and submit it to the regisi
post a Notice of Special Electic
Ordinance to the registrar (88 c
Following that the arguments we
Registrar (due 77 days prior to th{
argument against),
ad that in order to get the measure on the
Id need to adopt an ordinance calling for an
ar no later than August 12. Next the City would
i immediately following the submittal of the
iys prior to the election date — August 18).
ild be submitted to the City Clerk and to the
election date — August 22 — argument for and
J U LY 26, 2005
PAGE 14 CC STUDY SESSION
MPT/O'Connor asked if this was the po
"opposition" arguments were submitted?
Chris Fisher responded affirmatively.
MPT/O'Connor felt it would be prud
arguments. C/Herrera agreed and sugj
of the year."
Chris Fisher stated that the impartial
drafted and submitted to the City Clerk a
date (August 22). Rebuttals to the argu
City Clerk and Registrar by August 22.
October (September 29 and October 1E
each registered voter eligible to vote or
places would be established and voter:
prior to the election date (October 11)
within 28 days after election the Regi.
invoice to the City Clerk requesting payn
the election date.
MPT/O'Connor asked who could provide
ACM/Doyle said that staff would r
produce arguments for and against
for rebuttal arguments.
MPT/O'Connor wanted to know how the
against were factual.
Chris Fisher said that if the County Reg
there are mechanisms for the County to
the argument would not necessarily gi
rebuttal.
CM/Lowry said that after learning the
appear unnecessary to divide the t
construction and ongoing costs and the b
the construction portion would sunset in
remaining. Due to the lack of time for ad,
was hoping the Council would discuss
possibly in June rather than this Noveml
success.
at which the "in favor" arguments and
to ask teachers to submit "in favor"
ed that it should perhaps be a "teacher
ialysis by the City Attorney would be
d Registrar 77 days prior to the election
lent would need to be submitted to the
etween the end of September and mid
the sample ballots would be mailed to
the D.B. Special Tax Measure. Polling
notified of the polling places 29 days
The election is held on November 8;
trar would certify the results send an
mt for election services thirty days after
uments against.
that it exercise its option whether to
there was no time left in the process
ouncil would be certain the arguments
Lr were alerted to gross inaccuracies
accordingly. Merely disagreeing with
ntee the Council an opportunity for
Council's intent this evening it would
allot issue into two items between
illot wording would inform the voter that
30 years with only the operating costs
quate education and campaigning staff
putting the election out to next year
er in order to improve the likelihood of
Habib Isaac said that the City had the option to call a special election.
J U LY 26, 2005
PAGE 15 CC STUDY SESSION
MPT/O'Connor said the City rcently called a special election that cost City
$85,000.
Mr. Isaac said that this matter involves a multi-million dollar bond issue and
investing $85,000 to make asingle-issue ballot. It gives the community an
opportunity to investigate both sides thoroughly and it gives the "Friends of the
Library" an opportunity to put a campaign together and focus the issue squarely
on the library.
MPT/O'Connor asked about toe success of single -issue ballot measures.
Mr. Isaac said he did not have a crystal ball but felt that if the election were
postponed more time would be available to pursue the issue in the form of
education, campaign, discussion, and possibly re -surveying the residents (at an
estimated cost of $10-11,000).
C/Zirbes felt it would lose on tl
Fund issue would be on the san
March election that would prob
because it would provide additi
people who would vote in favor
out and vote for a library.
e June ballot because the State Library Grant
ballot so in all likelihood the City would go to a
bly be more expensive but essentially smarter
mal time for an educational campaign and the
:)f the library would take the time to actually go
MPT/O'Connor said the longer t e matter was delayed the more expensive the
construction would be.
C/Zirbes said he could go either direction. He was merely trying to figure out how
the issue would get the most support and have best opportunity for success.
And, he felt staff would not have brought up the issue unless it was important.
ACM/Doyle said that in the sur
approval rate was at about 50 p
around the percentages of that n
the field would advise that it wou
to that limit within two to three rr
dictate that the matter be pushes
to be successful.
?y numbers, based on the amount of tax, the
rcent. He felt that by the time November rolled
mber reaching 66 percent were slim. Experts in
I be difficult at best to increase the percentages
nths. A higher potential level of success would
out to provide time for the education campaign
C/Herrera allowed that whoever was running the pro -campaign would need time
for fundraising before literature could be produced. There is a lot to do in a very
short period of time.
MPT/O'Connor argued that the City would be looking at an $80,000 election cost.
Chris Fisher said the next regular County election date after November would be
April 11, 2006.
JULY 26, 2005
PAGE 16 CC STUDY SESSION
MPT/O'Connor pointed out that there
the City would save the cost by placing
a Council election in November and
matter on the November ballot.
C/Herrera suggested it be placed on the (November 2006 ballot.
C/Tanaka said it was too far out.
MPT/O'Connor said that by delaying
increase an additional 20 percent.
Mr. Isaac said that it was obvious
because there has been a lot of give a
an important issue the City would be k
election.
MPT/O'Connor asked what kind of ed
Mr. Fisher said that once the issue was
could act in their own capacity to get be
or against the ballot measure and
campaigning for the ballot measure. Inc
own time to promote the issue however.
MPT/O'Connor asked if the City could h
Mr. Fisher responded if it was prior to p
ordinance is passed the City can pr
promote or oppose the measure. Mr. Is
place the matter on the April 11 ballot
pass an ordinance next Tuesday.
MPT/O'Connor asked what it would
November ballot?
CM/Lowry responded $60,000. Mr. Is
the extra $25,000 for a special elec�
have a better chance of succeeding ui
r year the construction costs would
him that this Council was committed
take. He felt that because this was such
t served by going to the April 11 County
the City could provide.
in the ballot individual Council Members
ind the issue. The City could not act for
could not devote staff time toward
vidual staff members could act on their
town forums?
-ing the matter on the ballot. Once the
ride information and cannot actively
is explained that if Council decided to
r instance, Council would not have to
the City to place the measure on the
said that it would be prudent to spend
if the Council felt the measure would
those circumstances.
CM/Lowry reported that according tote City's Contract City Clerk, when the
normal November election is held in odd years and the City consolidates with the
County three ballot measures are included in the cost. Therefore, if this were
held during a regular November City Council election period the impact would be
zero versus adding D.B's measure onto another election for $60,000 or holding a
special election at a cost of $85,000. Since the City is 16 years old and has never
had a tax measure on the ballot there would be an extra incentive not to fail and
by giving the City the extra time to educate the public there would be more
JULY 26, 2005
PAGE 17 CC STUDY SESSION
chance for success. Of all of the taxes the residents are paying none were
imposed by the City Council of D.B. she pointed out — not one dime.
C/Tanaka felt that the benefit of this tax was that it would directly benefit the
community.
Mr. Isaac explained that a 10- ay public notice was required prior to Council
adoption of a resolution. Therfore, it could not be approved at the regular
August 2 meeting.
MPT/O'Connor felt that April would work better for the ballot measure.
Mr. Fisher said that the majority of ballot measures that pass usually pass when
there is consensus among the Council, City staff and the residents who are
pulling together and not rushing forward and have time to build community
support and consensus. The measures that failed were rushed through the
system and the cities hadnot h red PR consultants and had not done the extra
work to get the community supe rt upfront.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Jack Newe expressed his concern that the recent Special Election cost the City
$85,000. He urged the Council to move forward to place the measure on the
November ballot.
Marsha Hawkins agreed with P
whereas the seniors were willi
Council has now presented the
Friends are revved up to go wi
the Friends and the public hav
The Friends would be most han
the Council Members were v
momentum needed to pass the
r. Newe. A Special Election costs the City and
g to consider the lower amount of money the
riends of the Library with a double negative. The
i its fundraisers, their committee is forming and
been working toward this goal for a long time.
icapped by putting it off until April. She felt that if
fling to push the issue it would provide the
ieasure in November.
Jerry Hamilton believed that � there were other County and State ballot
measures in November it would diminish the City's goal.
Kathleen Newe said that althou h the Friends of the Library were prepared to
move forward she recognized the wisdom of waiting until April. People are
committed to moving forward. For instance, the Friends have a meeting
scheduled for tomorrow night and she hoped that the City would put money
behind an educational program if the matter were extended to April. The Friends
will participate with fundraisers and outreach programs because the group is
committed to doing whatever it needs to do.
M/Chang closed Public Com
J U LY 26, 2005
PACE 18 CC STUDY SESSION
MPT/O'Connor said she believed that e
pass and relying on the expertise of the
measures speeding it up to NovembE
favorable result. Since the Council is
needs to afford the ballot measure the
the residents.
C/Zirbes felt it would also afford the C
about firm numbers regarding potential
C/Herrera agreed with MPT/O'Connor
matter should be moved out to April 11.
C/Tanaka said he was inclined to go wit
so much momentum over the years.
residents with the help of the Friends of
He also said he wanted to eliminate the i
MPT/O'Connor said that if this measurE
reason it made sense to her that the c
should do everything possible to ensure
experts delaying the ballot measure we
educate the public.
M/Chang felt that delaying the ballot by
momentum. The delay would provide me
the entire community together to move
the $85,000 for a special election we
C/Zirbes said that if the City waited 50 d
into a regular election for $60,000.
M/Chang moved to place the measure
ballot and to place the item on the Counc
town hall meetings and public education.
ACM/Doyle responded to Marsha Haw
Council what was currently on the balls
meeting. However, because the State I
ballot it would be better to put the measu
�ry Council Member wanted the issue to
who understand the business of ballot
would not necessarily give the City a
ommitted to getting the library built it
;st possible opportunity for approval by
it an opportunity to become educated
oval percentages.
the advise of the experts that the
the November date because there was
Likewise, he had confidence that the
the Library would approve the measure.
egativity of another special election.
failed in November then what. For that
ouncil, the Friends, staff and residents
Success and based on the advise of the
ild give the City more time to properly
only five months would not diminish the
re time to educate the citizens and bring
he issue forward. However, he felt that
uld be a problem for the community.
Sys and moved it to June it would be tied
m the April 11 or regular June election
it Goals & Objectives, provide money for
ns that staff would be able to advise
for June by the August 2 City Council
rllot measure was slated for the June
on the ballot in April.
C/Zirbes said it was a special matter and felt a special election would be
appropriate.
ACM/Doyle pointed out that it would be
date other than this November or two y
is whether it is a standalone election or c
i special election if it were held on any
irs from this November. The difference
nsolidated election with the County.
J U LY 26, 2005
CM/Lowry said that in her opinic
candidate for Council would u
included rhetoric about why resit
whether that individual won a
because they would have mar
negative aspect that any voter
why would the Council want to c
the community endorse a comm
and its success.
PAGE 19 CC STUDY SESSION
n by placing the item on the November ballot a
idoubtedly come forth with a campaign that
ents should not vote in favor of a new 'tax." And
Council seat would be somewhat irrelevant
aged to have the opportunity to voice every
would consider about this ballot measure. And
o that with the City's very first attempt at having
inity project. And why take a risk with the library
MPT/O'Connor felt that whether the measure was put on November, April or
June there would be a candidat that would use the "tax" as ammunition against
the measure.
C/Zirbes moved, C/Herrera seconded to direct staff to provide information
regarding the feasibility of placing the tax measure on the March or April 2006
ballot and provide information regarding the City's potential for participating
financially in the promotion of the measure as deemed appropriate. Motion
carried by the following Roll Call vote:
AYES: COUNCIL MEMBERS: Herrera, Tanaka, Zirbes,
MPT/O'Connor, M/Chang
NOES: COUNCIL MEMBERS: None
ABSENT: COUNCIL MEMBERS: None
ADJOURNMENT: With no further business to come before the City
Council, M/Chang adjourned the Study Session at 7:20 p.m.
The foregoing minutes are he
2005.
WEN CHANG, M
•�t�� SGC��
Anda C. Lowry, City Clerk
approved this fith _ day of rf,