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ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
JUNE 13, 1994
1. CALL TO ORDER: M/Werner called the meeting to
order at 5:00 p.m. in the AQMD Auditorium, 21865 E.
Copley Drive, Diamond Bar, California.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: The audience was led in the
Pledge of Allegiance by M/Werner.
ROLL CALL: Mayor Werner, Mayor Pro Tem
Harmony, Council Members Ansari and Papen. Councilman
Miller was excused due to A potential conflict of
Interest.
Also present were Terrence L. Belanger, City Manager;
Frank Usher, Asst. City Manager; James DeStefano,
Community Development Director; George Wentz, Interim
City Engineer and Lynda Burgess, City Clerk.
2. PUBLIC HEARING:
2.1 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT NOS. 92-1 AND 2; VESTING
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 51407, CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 92-8; AND OAK TREE PERMIT NO. 92-8;
VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 32400, CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 91-51, AND OAK TREE PERMIT NO. 91-2;
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 51253 AND PERMIT NO. 91-2;
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 51253 AND CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 92-12; OAK TREE PERMIT NO. 92-9; THE
SOUTH POINTE MASTER PLAN - C/Ansari stated that
information needed was to be received by her on
Friday; however, Mr. Arciero contacted her on
Friday to say that he wouldn't be able to meet with
her and Mr. Dabney until Saturday and that the
information wouldn't be ready until Saturday night.
She further stated that she did not receive the
information until 1:30 today and at that time she
met with Mr. Arciero. and that, due to her
inability to review the information thoroughly, she
felt she would not be able to make an informed
decision.
M/Werner stated that there is a South Pointe Master
Plan Wildlife Corridor Biological Assessment
previously submitted, which is a supplement to the
Environmental Impact Report to address concerns
raised regarding the existence of a wildlife
corridor. The report is available for review and
Council Members had the report since Friday. He
further stated that he received several letters
from the School District, one from Mr. David
Fallis, Supervisor, North Area, addressed to Mr.
Clay Chaput, clarifying what might have been a
misunderstanding regarding Mr. Fernando's letter to
Mr. Nice, asking for some updates on funding for
the South Pointe Middle School. The letter states
that "if the district fails to proceed with the
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execution of the construction contract, the
following may occur: first, the State Allocation
Board could vote to rescind the construction
apportionment; second, the District could be
authorized to rebid the project with no increase in
the allowance and would have to fund any increased
costs." If they were to lose their contract and go
out for a new bid, and if those bids come in at a
higher cost, and the rebid project could exceed the
allowance by more than 10%, which is a State stand-
ard, the project would no longer be in compliance
with the provisions of the Education Code and,
therefore, the bid would not be acceptable. So,
the letter was offered as clarification. He
further stated that each of the Council Members
received a copy of it. He stated that he had
received a 4 page letter from Martha Bruske raising
several issues, which every Council Member also
received. He stated that all correspondence
received would be part of the public hearing
record. He indicated that the Public Hearing had
been closed for the last two weeks, and since then,
the Council had been deliberating on the South
Pointe project and its individual components over
the course of the last few weeks. He then asked
for an update from the developers so all Council
Members can have a complete understanding of
additional alternative analyses in order to make a
final decision.
MPT/Harmony stated that he had just received the
package that C/Ansari referred to and had not yet
been able to review it.
C/Papen asked C/Ansari if she would enumerate the
five different proposals that she asked the
developers to review and consider as additional
alternatives to the project; and whether C/Ansari
now had all the information she needed to make a
decision.
M/Werner stated that the Council received a lot of
public testimony on the project along with
additional written correspondence and telephone
conversations. He asked if the Council had any
objections to allowing or disallowing further
testimony at this time.
MPT/Harmony stated that he felt that, due to the .__.
Council going through more plans, more testimony
should be allowed. But before taking more
testimony, the developers should speak, so those
ideas can be responded to.
Frank Arciero Jr., Arciero & Sons, apologized for
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not having reduced plans of all the alternatives.
He stated that he met with C/Ansari last week to
try and develop alternatives to the plan that were
generated through concerns that she had as well as
the homeowners had. After the meeting on Monday,
he instructed Mr. Dabney to start researching the
alternatives. Unfortunately, between Tuesday and
7:00 a.m. this morning, it has taken that long to
research the information properly so that what is
presented is in its true and informative fashion.
He further stated that one of the alternatives that
C/Ansari wanted to explore was to try and confine
all of the development onto the existing property
that Arciero & Sons currently owns and that she
wanted to stay out of the canyon (development only
on the easterly portion of the property), 12 acres.
On a map, Mr. Arciero showed what he was talking
about in regard to an alternative. He stated that
Brea Canyon Rd. would be an access into the parcel.
The pad would be graded to 780, leaving 12.4 acres
of flat, graded, useable land. Their basis was to
go down to the streambed, stay 40 ft. out of the
streambed, take a point and start a 2-1 fill slope
up to the project, then do the grading and try to
get an access road up to accommodate whatever would
be developed up in the other area.
In response to M/Werner, Mr. Arciero stated that
the streambed itself is approximately 660 contour,
but goes down to about 640 --about 140 ft. of
elevation difference. There would be approximately
528,000 yds. of dirt to be cut -filled. He further
indicated that they would go to an upscale condo
type concept. It would be high density, small
units; however, it's questionable whether or not
that would work economically.
M/Werner asked if it would be about the same as the
Grand Ave. apartments.
Mr. Arciero stated that it would be approximately
1100 to 1200 sq. ft. maximum. He further stated
that it does not give other access to the school
district, in regard to alleviating the traffic
congestion. He further discussed Alternative No. 1
and indicated that this was an alternate in regard
to the road access to the school site and
subdivision using Alternate No. 1 as the number of
units or close to the number of units that would be
developed on that part of the RnP property. They
tried to stay out of the streambed area, and just
do a crossing with an arch culvert pipe. The
entrance would come up on a 12% grade to the top of
the hill, then transcend down the hill and into the
canyon. This would change to a 15% grade on the
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transition down into the bottom of the canyon, and
then coming from the canyon back up to the school
site. He then showed the cut and fill areas. In
the fill areas, it would be 1.5-1 fill slope, which
is a little steeper, to try and make it work,
staying out of the streambed area; however it has
not been looked at by his soils or geologist. The
fill slope would be 100 to 110 ft. in elevation on
the slope. The cut slope would be approximately 60
ft., plus or minus.
In response to M/Werner's inquiry into how much
dirt the road would displace, Mr. Arciero asked
that Mr. Dabney answer the question of dirt and
tree displacement. He further stated that he had
asked Mr. Dabney to come up with an alternative
from the property that the City currently owns, to
take the road straight across to the school site.
However, he told Mr. Dabney to stop after 3 hrs. of
working on it. He went on to state that in
Alternative No. 1, an arch culvert , 9.42' high,
was proposed to allow pedestrians, horses and other
animals through it, with a sidewalk on one side
only. There would be a 2' flat area and either a
cut or fill would begin. The area picked has the
least amount of trees.
C/Ansari asked if the road considered is still
going through the Pathfinder Homeowner's Assn.
property and Mr. Arciero stated that it did.
Mr. Arciero showed Alternative No. 1 on the map and
stated that they propose lifting the restriction on
62 acres, with the total number of acres being 72.
M/Werner stated that he had been told that the
homes that are being proposed will back up directly
to existing Pathfinder Homeowner's Assn. lots.
Mr. Arciero stated that they would not, and that
the closest lot to an existing residence is 230'
from the backyard to the proposed back yard.
In response to C/Ansari's request to review the
roadways, M/Werner asked if staff had had an
opportunity to review the plans submitted by Mr.
Arciero this afternoon and/or Alternative 1.
CM/Belanger stated that as far as the roadway is
concerned, staff had reviewed it; however, there
may be a difference in assumptions made in review
of this project in terms of the amount of earth
being proposed to be moved. Staff analysis
indicates a larger quantity of earth than Mr.
Dabney's indicates that is going to be moved in
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Alternative No. 1, that may be as a result of
assumptions.
Mr. Dabney stated that a road can be built at any
grade requested anywhere in the world, it's just
whether or not you really want it the way it ends
up being.
C/Ansari stated that she would like time for staff
to review the Alternatives and review the
information given today. She stated that she felt
that staff had not been given enough time to review
it.
C/Papen stated that she felt that staff does not
need time to review the additional alternatives of
roadways going through the Arciero property. It's
obvious that a school will be built at the top of
the hill and a road needs to be constructed that
has the least amount of curves, the least high
slopes, the least amount of fill, the least amount
of grade work and the least amount of slopes.
Every Alternative proposed, other than No. 1, has
grades in excess of 12%. Buses will go up those
slopes, billowing out smoke trying to get up the
grade which would cause more pollution. She
further stated that, in her opinion, the questions
have been answered. Is it possible, maybe, does it
meet the City standards, no. If it doesn't meet
the standards that we have for normal development
in the community why go further, spending staff
time and taxpayer's dollars pursuing alternatives
that don't meet our standards. After review of the
alternatives, No. 1, with possibly one modifica-
tion, is really the alternative that will do a
couple of things: solve the school's problem and
allow them to start construction on the site on a
relatively short amount of time; not impact the
blue line stream, saving 72 acres of a canyon and
the road to the school will have the least grade
and the least amount of earth work through the
canyon to reach the school's property. She
suggested that staff align the road on the subject
property and not invade the Homeowners' open space,
but that the road be on the subject property itself
and approve Alternative No. 1 with that
modification.
MPT/Harmony stated that in regard to the
Homeowner's Assn., there should be some effort on
the part of the developers if they're going to
pursue RnP to talk directly with the Pathfinder's
Homeowner's Assn. They had implied property rights
as to viewshed and expecta-tions when they bought
their property, which was set aside by the County
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as open space, and they expected that it would
remain open. He further stated that he knows that
the Homeowner's Assn. had hired an attorney and
plan to bring suit. He further stated that he
would like to see some consideration on the project
that was originally planned by the school district;
he would also like to see the Homeowner's Assn.
come back after talking with the developers on the
project; and he would also like to see people in
the audience speak on what has been discussed
tonight and continue the Hearing.
M/Werner asked the President of the Homeowner's
Assn. if, in fact, an attorney had been retained.
Barbara Beach-Courchesne stated that her husband is
the President and confirmed that an attorney had
been retained for a possible lawsuit.
C/Ansari stated that it is a fact that the reason
why they're at this meeting is due to a land use
problem. Older trees discussed are on the RnP
property. The Columbus Tree is on the RnP
property. The Homeowner's Assn. is planning to sue --
RnP and the City if Alternate No. 1 is planned
tonight. This can hold up the school being built.
Arciero has a blue line stream. Arciero has no
restrictions on his property. There are deed and
map restrictions on the RnP property. We have
turned down parcels 1 and 61 attempting to lift map
restrictions off of property and yet do not wish to
lift restrictions from the RnP property. She
stated that she had been trying to work with Mr.
Arciero to get the school built. The road goes
through the Pathfinder's Homeowner's Assn. and is
unacceptable and finally, it is one area that needs
to be worked on and even staff has not had the
opportunity to look at these plans and address them
clearly. She further stated that she would not
vote on anything unless staff had looked it over
thoroughly.
M/Werner stated that even though the information
was received today, and the fact that staff had not
had time to review it, he will take it at face
value. He stated that it is important to
understand that hillside property is being
discussed and usually there is one best way to cut
a road in hillside property and that's to follow
the terrain and avoid the hillsides as much as
possible. The roadway that goes into Option 1
appears to be the most environmentally -sensitive
approach, from a grading stand -point, to get access
to the development area and school. It preserves
the canyon and provides a secondary access to the
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school. It gives the City, in exchange for lift-
ing map restrictions on 62 acres on RnP property,
72 acres of Arciero property and the remainder of
RnP property as public open space. It also puts
the development part of the property onto a portion
of the property that has the least significant
environmental impact. Further, he explained that
he felt Option 1 was the best option, with
amendments: 1) no through street; 2) the roadway
to be located entirely on the RnP property.
Following further discussion, M/Werner asked both
the applicant and the School District if there
would be a problem in continuing the matter until
June 15, 1994, so staff could provide the
information necessary for C/Ansari to make a
informed decision.
CM/Belanger stated that staff would be able to
respond to the information submitted today.
Mr. Arciero stated that he would consent to a
continuance until 9:00 on June 15 and asked that he
have the opportunity to review the information that
staff develops so that he is sure that everyone is
thinking along the same lines.
Dr. Hockwalt stated that he would also agree to the
continuance; however, he reminded the Council that
the School Board meets on Wednesday at 7:00 p.m.
Following discussion, C/Ansari moved, MPT/Harmony
seconded to continue the matter to 5:00 p.m. on
June 15, 1994 at the Heritage Park Community
Center. Motion carried 4 to 0.
3. ANNOUNCEMENTS: None.
4. ADJOURNMENT: With no further business to
conduct, M/Werner adjourned the meeting at 7:00 p.m. to
5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, June 15, 1994 at the Heritage
Park Community Center, 2900 S. Brea Canyon Rd.
L NDA BtMdIESS, City Clerk
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