HomeMy WebLinkAbout05/02/1994 Minutes - Jt. Meeting with Planning Commission'MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MAY 2, 1994
1. CALL TO ORDER: M/Werner called the meeting to
order at 7:07 p.m., in the AQMD Auditorium, 21865 E.
Copley Drive, Diamond Bar, California.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: The audience was led in the
Pledge of Allegiance by Mayor Werner.
ROLL CALL: Mayor Werner, Mayor Pro Tem
Harmony, Council Members Ansari and Papen. C/Miller
excused himself from participation due to a potential
conflict of interest.
Planning Commission Chairman Meyer, Vice Chairman Plunk
and Commissioners Schad and Fong. C/Flamenbaum arrived
at 7:10 p.m.
Also present were Terrence L. Belanger, City Manager;
Frank Usher, Assistant City Manager; Michael Montgomery,
Interim City Attorney; James DeStefano, Community
Development Director; George Wentz, Interim City Engineer
and Lynda Burgess, City Clerk.
2. PUBLIC HEARING:
2.1 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT NOS. 92-1 AND 2; VESTING
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 51407, CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 92-8; AND OAK TREE PERMIT NO. 92-8;
VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 32400, CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 91-50, AND OAK TREE PERMIT NO. 91-2;
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 51253 AND CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 92-12; OAK TREE PERMIT NO. 92-9; THE
SOUTH POINTE MASTER PLAN; AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
REPORT NO. 92-1 - M/Werner asked if there were any
conflict of interest issues involving any member of
the City Council or Planning Commission that would
preclude them from participating in discussion of
this issue.
ICA/Montgomery stated that he was unaware of any
issues involving a conflict of interest with any
member of the Council or Planning Commission. He
then noted that C/ Miller voluntarily excluded
himself from the hearings due to a potential
conflict of interest, and that a concern regarding
C/Schad had been appropriately responded to by
staff.
C/Papen expressed concern that C/Schad, who resides
within 300 ft. of the property, is not considered
to have a conflict of interest and is participating
in the deliberations.
ICA/Montgomery explained, that, pursuant to
Regulation 18702.3, adopted by the Fair Political
Practices Commission under the authority of
Government Code 87103, a Commissioner residing
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within 300 ft. of the property is presumed to have
a disqualifying interest in real property unless
there is no financial affect on his property. He
stated that, according to an independent appraisal
obtained by staff to determine whether or not
there would be an effect on the property, it was
found that there is no measurable positive or
negative change in the market value of the subject
residence if this project or its alternatives are
implemented because of the subject's substantial
distance in elevation above the proposed project
area.
M/Werner stated that a student requested to speak
prior to presentations made by staff and
developers.
M/Werner opened the Public Hearing.
Jacob Ellis, 21329 Lasso Dr., a student at South
Pointe Middle School, expressed support for
construction of South Pointe Middle School as soon
as possible, but not if the natural habitat of
Sandstone Canyon would be sacrificed.
In response to MPT/Harmony, Mr. Ellis stated that
he obtained 108 signatures from students on a
petition protesting the destruction of the canyon.
Carolyn Kim, student at South Pointe Middle School,
requested that a permanent school be constructed as
soon as possible.
Richard Eide inquired if the discussion would
include the property in the back part of The
Country.
M/Werner stated that the notification process was
defec-tive and that there would be no discussion
focusing on the property in the back part m fete
The
Country. He asked staff to explain why P
notification procedure was not conducted.
CM/Belanger explained that staff mailed notices for
the Hearing on the South Pointe Master Plan, and
all related documents, within the required 21 day
notice of publication and the 21 day mailing to all
property owners located within 500 ft. within the
subject proposal, but inadvertently failed to
properly notify 300 residents; therefore, the
Council is unable to deliberate or make a decision
this evening related to matters on the agenda. He
recommended that, following testimony, the Council
adjourn the meeting to Wednesday, May 25, 1994 at
7:00 p.m., and that the Planning Commission adjourn
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its meeting to its regularly scheduled meeting of
May 23, 1994, which would allow sufficient time to
cure the mailing notice defect.
C/Papen noted that the mailing notice also did not
include notification that the Council would be
considering the Grand Ave. property as one of the
alternatives; therefore, there should not be any
discussion on that alternative this evening.
CM/Belanger explained that the defective notice
relates to the South Pointe Master Plan, not to the
parcel map on lots No.l and 61, which was properly
noticed for a Public Hearing by the Planning
Commission on May 23, 1994 and recommended for a
City Council Public Hearing on May 25, 1994 to
consider the parcel map as part of the continua-
tion of this particular matter. He stated that
since there was a proper published notice,
individuals can give testimony this evening for the
record; however, the City Council and the Planning
Commission should not engage in any deliberation in
relationship to the projects until after the
appropriate public notice has been given and the
meeting relating to that notice has been held.
M/Werner indicated that the issues associated with
the alternative projects are separate issues and
will be discussed at subsequent Planning Commission
and Council meetings.
ICA/Montgomery concurred that, as long as no
decisions are rendered this evening, it is
appropriate for the Council to allow presentations
from the developers, accept testimony from the
audience, questions of clarification from members
of the Planning Commission and City Council and to
consider impacts of cumulative developments in the
City.
VC/Plunk inquired if it is appropriate to discuss
the cumulative effects of the proposal without a
General Plan.
ICA/Montgomery explained that the cumulative
effects can be discussed at anytime because land
uses must be balanced against other land uses. He
stated that since OPR granted an extension of time
for the General Plan, the Council cannot refuse to
hear the developers' application and must make a
finding based upon the General Plan to be adopted.
Chair/Meyer requested staff, during their
presentation, to explain why the Planning
Commission had been invited in joint session with
the Council, given the fact that the Planning
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Commission already made a recommendation on all of
these entitlements for the Council's deliberation.
VC/Plunk questioned the appropriateness of
ICA/Montgomery representing the City, given his
involvement with several lawsuits regarding this
issue. She also expressed concern over the
Planning Commission deliberating on a project they
already reviewed and provided recommendations.
ICA/Montgomery stated that both the FPPC and the
State Bar have found no conflict with his
involvement on this issue.
MPT/Harmony requested future notices of the
Planning Commission and the Council to include the
back part of The Country off of Grand Ave. so all
issues can be discussed in the same context. He
also requested that a notice of interest be sent to
residents on Fern Hollow to advise them of the
South Pointe Master Plan proposal.
In response to C/Schad's inquiry, CM/Belanger
stated that all action taken under ordinance No. 4
and recommendations made by the Planning Commission
are valid under the previous analysis done in
relationship to Ordinance No. 4. He stated that
the extension letter from OPR provides for the
Council to hear vesting tentative maps that existed
prior to the date of the issuance of the extension
letter.
Chair/Meyer noted that the Planning Commission
concurred in continuing the Public Hearing to its
regularly -scheduled meeting of May 23, 1994.
M/Werner stated that the Council would close their
portion of the Public Hearing and renotice a new
Public Hearing to a date around the end of
May/beginning of June, depending upon when the AQMD
Auditorium is available. He then requested staff
to provide a staff presentation.
CDD/DeStefano reported that the South Pointe Master
Plan is a project proposed to guide the development
of about 171 acres within the South Pointe Middle
School/Sandstone Canyon area, which is owned by the
following five entities: the City; Walnut Valley
Unified School District (WVUSD); Arciero & Sons,
Inc.; RnP Development, Inc. and Sasak Corp. The
project proposes to develop 30 acres of commercial
retail/office space, approximately 200
single-family detached residential dwelling units,
a 28 acre neighborhood park and construction of a
middle school. He stated that the Planning
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Commission began review of the project in late 1992
and recommended Council approval; however,
guidelines of Ordinance No. 4, which the City was
operating under in 1993, prohibited completion of
the South Pointe Master Plan project and many of
its components at Council level. He stated that
the Council tabled the project in January 1994 and
since that time, the developers, in response to
input from the community, have submitted
alternative proposals for consideration along with
the project of record, which is now before the
Council. He reported that the WVUSD, which is in
jeopardy of losing $8 million of capital funds and
has construction contract considerations, recently
asked the City for assistance to begin construction
of the permanent middle school facilities, which
requires the removal of about 400,000 cubic yards
of dirt from the school site. He explained that
the purpose of the Planning Commission's
participation is to allow them to receive a
presentation regarding any proposed modification to
the project, and to take any possible subsequent
action as directed by the Council, and/or any other
actions necessary to move the project forward and
come to a decision. He then reviewed the specific
development proposal of record, as outlined in the
staff report and reported that alternative
proposals to the project of record are designed to
encourage preservation of the Sandstone Canyon area
for open space purposes. The alternatives are:
Alternative One, listed in the staff report as a
North/South Canyon Preservation, is a concept
trading Arciero & Son's property for the westerly
35 acres of the RnP Development property near
Morning Sun Dr., to develop a 103 home project,
incorporating a new road access from Brea Canyon
Rd., to the middle school. Alternative Two, is
listed as an East/West Canyon Preservation,
considering preserving the east/west canyon by only
permitting the development of the Arciero tract and
site; however, this development would affect the
blueline stream, which must be permitted by the
Army Corps of Engineers and the Department of Fish
and Game. Alternative Three is a "no project"
alternative, requiring off-site transport of the
excess dirt from the School District's property,
which may require an addendum or supplement to the
WVUSD's certified EIR. Alternative Four would be
to certify the EIR, deny the project or specific
components of the project presented. Alternative
Five would be to continue the discussion of the
Master Plan for either further environmental
analysis and/or investigation of additional
alternatives.
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In response to MPT/Harmony, CDD/DeStefano explained
that the transport of the dirt off the school site
is an alternative to moving the dirt into one of
the adjacent canyons. He stated that it is staff's
opinion that the previously certified EIR did not
facilitate or incorporate the removal of the dirt
via the local streets and. would therefore require
an addendum or supplement to that document in order
to achieve that environmental certification. He
stated that staff does not have information
regarding the agreement with the WVUSD and Arciero
& Sons.
MPT/Harmony pointed out that it seems that WVUSD
had agreed with Arciero & Sons to locate the dirt
onto Arciero's property.
M/Werner stated that not only was there concern
with moving the dirt off-site over the existing
roads, but there was also concern expressed, during
testimony on preparation of the District's EIR,
about dumping the dirt into the canyon.
In response to C/Flamenbaum, CDD/DeStefano
explained that Exhibit G in the staff report is
Alternative One to Vesting Tentative Map No. 51407,
illustrating the 103 homes on the westerly portion
of RnP's holdings. He stated that Exhibit H is the
1991 version of Tentative Tract Map No. 32400,
which was provided only as an informational
document. He then displayed exhibits, included in
the staff report, reviewing each alternative
proposal.
C/Flamenbaum noted that Alternative Two would
require a lot of earth movement off-site. He also
noted that the City loses the commercial
development and the park with Alternatives
One and Two.
C/Schad noted that the map on Exhibit 1 indicates
that the road off of Brea Canyon would bisect a
corner of the Pathfinder Homeowners Assn. (HOA)
property.
Chair/Meyer questioned why the EIR would have to be
modified to expend additional deliberation for the
transport of the dirt when the EIR should include
the Planning Commission's discussion in the
Response to Comment which determined that items
such as inadequate roads for truck traffic and
opposition from the surrounding land uses, could
not be mitigated to a level of non -significance.
CDD/DeStefano explained that staff believes the
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WVUSD would need to amend their existing certified
EIR approved in 1989 in order to accomodate the
option of moving the dirt via trucks down the
adjacent streets, not the City's EIR currently
being processed and before the Council.
Chair/Meyer pointed out that even though the
WVUSD's EIR is deficient in its discussion about
off-site transport, the City's EIR fully discusses
the issue; therefore, as long as the City's EIR is
certified, the discussion can be incorporated by
reference into the WVUSD's EIR.
M/Werner requested clarification regarding how the
blueline stream would be affected by Alternative
One and Two.
CDD/DeStefano explained that the road to the school
site would cross the blueline stream, in both the
proposal of record and Alternative One, thus
requiring permits from the Department of Fish and
Game and the Army Corps of Engineers. In
Alternatives One and Two, the dirt from the school
site would be relocated into the canyon, thus
immediately affecting the blueline stream.
C/Papen, noting that the staff report does not
include a map for Alternative Two, requested staff
to outline it on one of the other maps, specifying
if there is a proposed road from Brea Canyon.
CDD/DeStefano stated that Alternative Two, which
preserves the east/west canyon area, does not
include a road within that project from Brea Canyon
Road through the neighborhood to support the
subdivision itself.
C/Schad suggested that a dirt haul road through the
low part of the hill between Arciero's property and
Brea Canyon Road, coming out just north of the high
pressure gas pumping plant, would not impact the
blueline stream.
RECESS: M/Werner recessed the meeting at 8:40 p.m.
RECONVENE: M/Werner reconvened the meeting at 8:50 p.m.
2.1 CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
92-1 & 92-1 - Frank Arciero Jr., principal of
Arciero & Sons, Inc., expressed concern that
C/Schad may have a conflict of interest regarding
-. this issue since the Pathfinder HOA, of which
C/Schad is a member, expressed concern at previous
public hearings that they would lose value in their
homes if this project was ever developed. He then
requested a copy of the information presented to
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the State Bar and the FPPC that led to the
determination that ICA/Montgomery did not have a
conflict of interest in the matter. He also
requested clarification as to what issues the
Planning Commission would be addressing during
their May 23, 1994 meeting.
M/Werner explained that the Planning Commission is
being asked to consider options that weren't
available to them for consideration when they first
reviewed the project.
ICA/Montgomery explained that the FPPC provided a
written response to C/Ansari before she took
office. He stated that C/Papen and C/Plunk
requested that the State Bar give their opinion;
therefore, he does not know what was submitted. He
stated that the applicants are welcome to have
their attorneys point out where a ruling is wrong
and request further investigation.
M/Werner pointed out that it is typically the
responsibility of a Commissioner and/or
Councilmember to make the determination if any
conflict of interest exists.
ICA/Montgomery reiterated that the letter of record
from the independent appraiser selected by staff
indicates that the proposals will not impact the
market either way. He stated that there is a
procedure whereby if the applicants wish to
challenge C/Schad, the appropriate legal action can
be filed to attempt to have him disqualified.
Mr. Arciero gave a brief history on the purchase of
the property, and applicants for development of
that property prior to incorporation that led to
the sale of the property to the School District.
He stated that the intent of the sale to the
District and the balance of the property was always
for development purposes, which was supported by
the County Supervisor at that time and covered in
the District's EIR. He stated that First American
Title Company, which controlled the funds to pay
the subcontractors, requiring both approval from
him and the WVUSD, never held a completion or
grading bond to guarantee that any work would be
completed by a certain date. In regard to the
issue that three oak trees were damaged in the
course of the grading operation of the school, he
explained that an agreement was made that he would
either seed the park or pay $3,000 to $5,000 in
restitution. In regard to the property that was
owned by the Water Company, he explained that Mr.
Beiderman indicated that the site on Brea Canyon
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Cut-off was available but it would have to be
offered to another agency first. Since there was
no response made to the letter sent by the Water
Co., they entered into an agreement to purchase the
property for the same price paid by the Water Co.
for the property off of Pathfinder Rd. and Brea
Canyon Cut-off, contingent upon the approval of the
subdivision; however, in 1992, the Water Co.
informed him that the property was being sold to
the City and was no longer available. In regard to
the proposal of record, he stated that he was
contacted by the City to participate in a meeting
to consider Master Planning the entire property
that would be appropriate and benefit the
community. He stated that he concurred with the
Master Plan concept. He then pointed out that in
order to accomplish Alternative One, approximately
six months would be needed to obtain permits from
the Department of Fish and Game and the Army Corps
of Engineers, which is a time frame that may not be
suitable to the District.
In response to M/Werner, Mr. Arciero stated that
his offer of restitution for removing the oak
trees, or to seed or plant trees in the park still
holds if still desired by the City. He also stated
that he may not have mentioned to the School
District the time involved in obtaining permits
from the Department of Fish and Game and the Army
Corps of Engineers because he assumed the project
of record, which would not have impacted that
blueline stream, was to be approved. He then
pointed out that the requirements to obtain a
permit from the Department of Fish and Game is
becoming more restrictive in recent times.
C/Schad inquired if the road at the low part of the
hill between Arciero's property and Brea Canyon Rd.
that was used during the process of grading the
South Pointe site, could not be utilized to remove
the dirt.
Mr. Arciero stated that, to his knowledge, there is
no road down that hill, nor are there culverts of
appropriate size to accomodate trucks. He stated
that in order to utilize that area, there would
need to be mass grading to accommodate those trucks
to be able to get up and down those hills.
In response to VC/Plunk, he explained that he and
WVUSD entered into a joint escrow account with
First American Title Company to pay subcontractors
for grading the property from funds included in the
purchase price. He explained that the alternative
proposals were drafted to respond to concerns of
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the community, thus providing the community an
opportunity to acquire the property and keep it in
perpetuity; however, the South Pointe Master Plan
is the preferred proposal and has not been
withdrawn.
C/Papen requested that Mr. Arciero indicate when he
could begin construction for the proposal of
record.
Mr. Arciero stated that, as long as the blueline
stream is not impacted, he could start grading
within a week, depending upon the City's timeframe
to issue a grading permit, if he had an agreement
from the City that the development would be
approved.
C/Schad suggested that a majority of the dirt could
be used to raise the elevation of the two
playgrounds a few feet.
Mr. Arciero pointed out that it takes 1,600 cubic
yards of dirt to raise an acre of land one foot; _
therefore, one can quickly surmise that it would
not be feasible to raise the playground utilizing
400,000 cubic yards of dirt.
C/Fong stated that, to his calculations, the entire
school site would have to be raised only 8 feet,
utilizing the 400,000 cubic yards of dirt, with
only 16 feet of land use lost around the perimeter.
He suggested that the School District address this
option, or other options that would reduce the
amount of excavation or off-site export by
modifying the grading and building layout of the
school.
Mr. Arciero pointed out that many problems arise
with raising the property, such as access to the
school from the existing street, the loss of land,
the building of slopes, etc. He also pointed out
that changing the existing building location and
layouts would require the School District to go
through a whole new process with the State, thus
jeopardizing their funding.
C/Flamenbaum suggested that it may be more
appropriate if only Alternatives One and Two were
addressed this evening, given that the Planning
Commission already reviewed the entire South Pointe
Master Plan in great depth. He stated that the
Council could have subsequent meetings to review
the South Pointe Master Plan to address questions
of concern without Planning Commission
participation.
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M/Werner stated that the Council wants to ensure
that the Planning Commission has considered the
options available as being discussed by the
developer and determine if the Planning Commission
would want to reconsider the first recommendation,
and/or supplement the recommendation with
contingency plans, or not give reconsideration to
the original recommendation.
Chair/Meyer noted that, if the majority of the
Planning Commission desires to reconsider its
original recommendation, the entire project, at the
discretion of the Planning Commission, is open for
deliberation.
C/Papen painted out that the Council has not voted
to reject the Planning Commission's recommendation,
nor instructed them to reconsider it. She
questioned _how Alternatives One and Two were
included in the agenda when they were never part of
the Master Plan. She stated that there is no
reason why the Planning Commission should have to
consider the two alternatives, except for the
determination made by ICA/Montgomery that the
restrictions on two of the properties require an
abandonment of an open space easement.
M/Werner stated that the Council, by law, must
consider all reasonable alternatives available
before rendering a decision on the Planning
Commission's recommendation.
VC/Plunk expressed concern that, given the
timeframe involved with the School District, the
Planning Commission would not be able to adequately
consider the alternatives, and perhaps reconsider
the original decision.
In response to C/Schad, Mr. Arciero stated that the
project would be about 80 ft. above Rapid View when
completed.
Chair/Meyer suggested that each developer be asked
to present an overview of their project and that
specific questions from the Planning Commission and
Council be written down and submitted to staff to
be responded to by the developers before the May 23
Planning Commission Public Hearing.
Both the Planning Commission and City Council
concurred.
Dwight Forrister, owner of RnP Development,
resident of Austin, Texas, stated that he purchased
RnP Development from C/Miller in 1991. He stated
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that he is available to answer any questions;
however, Jan Dabney, his representative, could more
appropriately answer any technical questions or
concerns.
Mr. Dabney, a local development consultant
representing Mr. Patel, Mr. Forrister and Mr.
Arciero, though sympathetic to the Planning
Commissioners who reviewed the project in depth,
pointed out that the applicants have been waiting
patiently for many years for their project to be
heard before the Council. He then gave a brief
history of the proposal, beginning with the first
presentation before staff and Council Members in
January 1991, in which the developers asked the
Council for direction, fully disclosing the desire
to have map restrictions removed in order to
develop the property providing community benefit
and finishing with the proposal and alternatives
presented today.
Mr. Dabney explained that M/Werner recently
suggested that the project may not be suitable in
today's atmosphere due to the issues surrounding
the referendums, recall and environmental
considerations placed before the Council;
therefore, the question at hand is whether the City
desires economic development or passive set aside
areas. He stated that, of the five alternatives
presented this evening, the South Pointe Master
Plan and Alternative One are the two proposals
preferred and reviewed by the developers. He then
reviewed the merits of Alternative One and the
environmental impacts to the canyon. He also
reviewed Mr. Arciero's original proposal and the
conditions existing in Alternative Two. He stated
that the Council needs to address whether or not
they will allow the developers and the school
district to proceed. He noted that the school
still not being built is an indication that
something needs to be resolved on this issue.
C/Flamenbaum stated that it seems that Alternative
One is suggesting to trade the environmental damage
in one area for the environmental damage in
another.
Mr. Dabney stated that the specific 68 acres off of
Grand Ave. does not have many of the issues
professed to be associated with the South Pointe
Master Plan. He pointed out that the property does
not have a Walnut or Oak Tree Grove that would be
impacted upon development, it already has a high
pressure gas line through the middle of the
project, a fence separating the two counties and
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the only existing use on the property now are
numerous meandering riding trails.
C/Flamenbaum inquired how much dirt would be moved
for development of the Grand Ave. property. He
noted that the footprint of the road would cut into
ancient landslides.
Mr. Dabney stated that the road is a low profile
cross section road and geotechnical consultants
would have to address the issue of ancient
landslides to the satisfaction of the City. He
stated that there is a substantial decrease in the
amount of dirt that would be moved for the Grand
Ave. project compared to the approximate 4.5
million yards of earthwork that would have been
done in the South Pointe Master Plan.
C/Flamenbaum expressed concern that Alternative Two
suggests putting the dirt in the canyon, and if the
dirt goes into the canyon, the canyon would be dead
as a viable ecological entity.
C/Papen inquired what the economic benefit would be
to the City with the Master Plan and what would be
lost with Alternative One.
Mr. Dabney stated that the direct revenue indicated
in the Dale/Lavander Report indicated an excess of
$700,000 a year from sales taxes, the value of the
commercial property would have been approximately
$5 million paid to the City, the park would have
been constructed and paid for by the developer, the
improvement of the road to the School District
would have been constructed at a sum of $500,000
and there would have been improvements to Brea
Canyon Rd. and all of the adjacent neighborhoods.
He stated that the total amount of benefits to the
City from the original plan would have totaled over
$7 million to the community, with approximately
$700,000 to $800,000 ongoing in sales tax revenue
for the life of the project. He stated that the
School District would have received $1.2 million in
school fees from the residential development, plus
80,000 cubic yards of dirt would have been removed,
at no cost to the school, enhancing their playing
fields next to the park.
Mr. Dabney, in response to VC/Plunk, noted that
several of the alternatives eliminate both Mr.
Forrister and Mr. Sasak from development. He
stated that the Sasak property, in Alternative One,
would be allowed to be developed under the
guidelines of the original Master Plan; however, in
Alternative Two, he would not be allowed to
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develop, which would result in a lawsuit against
the City.
VC/Plunk suggested that the relative environmental
importance of one area over another be addressed at
the next hearing. She also inquired if any of the
properties have deed or CC&R restrictions.
Mr. Dabney, noting that the only environmental
concern over the last three years had been with the
RnP canyon, stated that it now appears the canyon,
in the alternatives being presented, has no
environmental significance; therefore, it would
appear that the original Master Plan must be
satisfactory. He stated that there are several
restrictive clauses on the RnP property in regard
to the South Pointe Master Plan, a one unit per lot
restriction on Mr. Patel's property and a
residential building restriction on the RnP
property in The Country.
VC/Plunk inquired if there are any concerns on the
propriety or questions of fairness of any of the
persons involved from the City in regard to this
project.
Mr. Dabney expressed concern with ICA/Montgomery's
involvement in this proposal considering that,
prior to becoming the City Attorney, he had 17
legal actions naming their project and he was
involved specifically against land development in
the City.
MPT/Harmony inquired if there are any specific
benefits to the Grand Ave. properties for giving up
the open space guarantees to allow development and
remove map restrictions.
Mr. Dabney stated that, though their preference is
with the South Pointe Master Plan, they would agree
to set aside Sandstone Canyon at the desires of the
community at large. He stated that the developers
are giving the City in fee 72 acres of Sandstone
Canyon in exchange for moving the development to
the Grand Ave. property, which would be
substantially less dense and with less environ-
mental impact; therefore, this should be enough
benefit to the City.
MPT/Harmony inquired why the Fern Hollow project,
which is across the 57 freeway from the Arciero
project, was briefly referenced in his memorandum.
Mr. Dabney explained that when the proposal was
first presented by M/Werner, there needed to be
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consideration for the owners of these projects to
entertain such an offer, particularly since they
had already spent $1 million in engineering and
processing to arrive at the Master Plan desired by
the previous Council. He stated that since Mr.
Arciero has an interest in that property on Fern
Hollow and has been attempting to get some
direction on that project for five years, that
property was offhandedly mentioned in the
memorandum; however, it is not tied to this project
in any fashion, and is just another ownership like
lot #1 and 161 of the RnP property.
In response to C/Schad, Mr. Dabney stated that the
alternate road, which was moved to accommodate
Pathfinder's HOA, would be somewhat visible from
existing homes. He stated that the finished
surface of the road, which will be 22 ft. above the
flow line of the canyon, is a regular residential
improved paved section with two lanes, parking
capability and a bicycle lane, having one sidewalk
from the commercial area up to the school district
property. He explained that the intent was to
provide the minimum scar on the property while
providing the maximum service to the community.
C/Ansari stated that it was her understanding that
the economic benefit referenced in the
Dale/Lavandar report referred to benefits received
after the tenth year.
Mr. Dabney concurred that the report was referring
to a ten-year buildout; however, there was a
developer in San Pedro willing to buy the entire
commercial development to develop the property
immediately estimating 80% of the entire project up
and generating money within the first year and a
half.
Dr. Ron Hockwalt, Superintendent, WVUSD, requested
that the City fast track the necessary action to
allow Arciero & Sons to receive a grading permit to
move the earth off the site so the District can
begin construction of the school by mid-May 1994.
He stated that the State approved the bid accepted
by the District with Berry Construction Co., and
construction of the school must begin immediately
or the entire process will move toward default,
requiring the bid process to be repeated which
would set the timeline back another year and a
half. He stated that they are always in danger of
losing up to $8 million from the State in the set
aside monies to be rebated to the District after
construction of the school.
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MPT/Harmony, noting that the School District had
not yet prepared maps, plans or specifications in
December 1993, inquired why the plans are now being
presented at this last minute putting the City in a
difficult position.
Dr. Hockwalt stated that the School District has
been consistent with following the timeline shared
with the City several months ago that indicated the
construction timeline and the financial timeline.
M/Werner inquired why the District is coming to the
City to fast track the project when they can
proceed in other ways.
Dr. Hockwalt stated that since he has been
Superintendent, the intent has always been to work
with the City, rather than the court system, to get
the school built.
C/Fong expressed concern that the District would
consider destroying wildlife to build the school.
He suggested that the school take a more positive
approach with the 400,000 cubic yards and look for
alternatives to reduce the amount of export by
modifying building plans, thus reducing the
impacts.
Dr. Hockwalt stated that they would have looked at
such options and the results indicate that
spreading the dirt over the entire site would
elevate the site far beyond what could accommodate
the present plan. He stated that such an option
would require large retaining walls around two
sides of the site, which would exceed funding
capacity, and would require the school site to be
split into two different levels, requiring new
plans and specifications that would have to go
through the whole State process. He stated that
the dirt in the canyon was clearly spelled out as
part of the EIR completed in 1989.
C/Fong stated that it should be the responsibility
of the State and the School District to accommodate
that alternative. He stated that the City should
not have to solely bear the responsibility of
accommodating the deadline set by the State and the
School District. —
C/Papen stated that the City would lose $6.5
million in improvements to the City with
Alternative One and the School would dose $1.5
million in development fees and is in jeopardy of
losing school revenue.
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C/Papen moved to approve the South Pointe Master
Plan as forwarded to the Council by the Planning
Commission.
MPT/Harmony stated that the Council is unable to
take action this evening because 300 residents were
not properly notified.
C/Papen stated that she was under the impression
that the 300 residents not notified live in the
Grand Ave. area; otherwise, if they lived in the
South Pointe area adjacent to the property, then
the whole meeting would be in violation of the
Brown Act.
CM/Belanger, in response to M/Werner, stated that
the notice is ineffective because it did not go to
the requisite parcels within 500 ft.
M/Werner stated that the issue of the notification
defect had already been discussed and the motion
made by C/Papen was invalid.
C/Flamenbaum moved, C/Schad seconded to establish a
study session for the regularly -scheduled Planning
Commission Meeting of May 9, 1994 and to continue
the Public Hearing to the Regularly -scheduled
Planning Commission meeting of May 23, 1994.
Motion carried unanimously.
CM/Belanger, in response to M/Werner, stated that
it would be appropriate for the Council to direct
the Commission to consider the alternatives
presented this evening.
MPT/Harmony moved, C/Ansari seconded to direct the
Planning Commission to consider the alternatives,
with direction to staff to include the open space
easement abandonment issue in the Public Hearing
notices.
C/Papen inquired if the direction to the Planning
Commission is to consider abandoning the open space
easement, as has been decided by ICA/Montgomery.
M/Werner clarified that the direction of the motion
was to make certain that all the prerequisite
issues that are statutorily required are included
irk the notice.
MPT/Harmony concurred that his motion was to direct
the Planning Commission to consider all
alternatives, with direction to staff to properly
notice the Public Hearing, making certain that all
the prerequisite issues that are statutorily
required are included in the notice. With the
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following Roll Call vote, motion carried:
AYES: COUNCIL MEMBERS - Papen, Ansari, MPT/
Harmony, M/Werner
NOES: COUNCIL MEMBERS - None
ABSENT: COUNCIL MEMBERS - Miller
M/Werner, in response to an inquiry made by an
audience member, stated that the Planning
Commission will consider all alternatives. He
stated that there will be a new notice sent for
Council meetings.
C/Papen suggested that the Council continue the
meeting to Monday, May 16, 1994, instead of the end
of May to a date to be determined, to review the
proposal and allow public testimony.
M/Werner suggested that it may be more appropriate
if the Council attend the Planning Commission
meeting scheduled May 9, 1994 for a joint study
session, thus allowing the public to address both
bodies with issues of concern, rather than creating
confusion by having study sessions alternately.
MPT/Harmony expressed concern with conducting a
series of workshop meetings and asking the public
to provide testimony, when proper legal notice
procedures had not been followed, thus excluding
many who should have received mailed notices.
Chair/Meyer stated that the Council is welcomed to
join the Planning Commission at any time.
Following discussion, M/Werner noted that there is
a consensus to continue the joint City Council and
Planning Commission Study Session to a Joint Study
Session on May 9, 1994.
3. ANNOUNCEMENTS: None given.
4. ADJOURNMENT: With no further business to
conduct, the meeting was adjourned at 11:15 p.m.
LYNDA BURGESS, City Clerk
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