HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/12/2013MINUTES OF THE CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 12, 2013
Chairman Lin called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the City Hall Windmill Room,
21810 Copley Drive, Diamond Bar, CA 91765.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Vice Chairman Nelson led the Pledge of Allegiance.
1. ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Frank 'Farago, Jack Shah, Tony
Torng, Vice Chairman Steve Nelson, and Chairman
Jimmy Lin.
Also present: Greg Gubman, Community Development Director;
Grace Lee, Senior Planner; Josue Espino, Contract Planner; and Stella Marquez,
Administrative Coordinator.
2. MATTERS FROM THE AUDIENCEIPUBLIC COMMENTS: None.
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: As presented
4. CONSENT CALENDAR:
4.1 Minutes of the Regular Meeting of January 22, 2013.
C/Torng moved, C/Farago seconded, to approve the Minutes of the
Regular Meeting of January 22, 2013, as presented. Motion carried by the
following Roll Call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN
ABSENT:
S. OLD BUSINESS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
6. NEW BUSINESS: None.
Farago, Shah, Torng, Chair/Lin
None
VC/Nelson
None
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7. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING(S):
7.1 Development Review No. PL 2012-164 — Under the authority of Diamond
Bar Municipal Code Section 22.48, applicant Jack Wu and property owner
Rurng Larn Duh, requested Development Review approval to construct an
11,179 square foot new single family residence on a 1.58 gross acre
(68,825 square foot) lot. The subject property is zoned Rural Residential
(RR) with a consistent underlying General Plan land use designation of
Rural Residential. (Continued from January 22, 2013)
PROJECT ADDRESS:
PROPERTY OWNER
23411 Ridge Line Road
Diamond Bar, CA 91765
Rurng Larn Duh
23411 Ridge Line Road
Diamond Bar, CA 91765
APPLICANT: Jack Wu
10410 Lower Azusa Road #203
El Monte, CA 91731
CDD/Gubman explained that on January 22, 2013, this public hearing was
opened and continued to tonight's meeting with one individual offering
testimony.
PC/Espino presented staff's report and recommended Planning
Commission approval of Development Review and Tree Permit
No. PI -2012-164, based on the Findings of Fact, and subject to the
conditions of approval as listed within the resolution.
VC/Nelson asked what the average square footage of homes approved in
"The Country Estates" was in the past five years. CDD/Gubman
responded between 13,000 and 15,000 square feet. VC/Nelson asked
how big the oak trees are that are scheduled to be removed (diameter at
breast height) and PC/ Espino responded that the general diameter at
breast height ranges from 16 to 20 inches.
James Hu, Project Manager, 2440 S. Barrington Avenue #312, Los
Angeles, said he was available to respond to questions. With respect to
the Commission's question, the average size of the proposed structure is
fairly consistent with the area of existing and new construction in the
surrounding area. The lot is very large and the applicant proposes to use
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11 percent of the lot coverage. Three (3) oak trees will be removed, and
the applicant plans to plant nine (9) new oak trees of the same species to
replace them.
VC/Nelson said he was concerned about replacing 16 inch diameter trees
with 24 inch box oak trees with stems reaching about 5 to 6 inches in
diameter. He asked if the applicant could provide more to make up for the
bio -mass that is lost from the 16-20 inch trees. Mr. Hu asked VC/Nelson if
he wanted the applicant to replace the trees at a greater than 3:1 ratio and
VC/Nelson said he was asking if the Commission could require that be
done as a condition of approval if the applicant would agree to that
condition. Mr. Hu said the applicant would agree to a larger ratio. Mr. Hu
said the replacement trees are 40 inch box and have a diameter of about
10 inches. PC/Espino explained that the replacement oak trees would be
24 inch box trees; however, the applicant is proposing a total of 21 new
trees, nine of which are the 24 inch box oak trees. VC/Nelson said that
.the proposal would result in a loss of bio -mass. He said it would be good
if the project came as close to replacing the bio -mass within 5 to 10 years.
He asked Mr. Hu if he would consult with the applicant about this to see if
the proposal could be revised. Mr. Hu said the applicant is present this
evening and they would most likely have to meet with the planning
department to figure out the correct ratio.
VC/Nelson asked for an explanation of the minimum requirement and
discuss if something greater can be achieved. CIDID/Gubman responded
that the minimum requirement is to replace each tree with three of the
same species (3:1 ratio) at a minimum size of 24 -inch box. The applicant
is meeting the minimum requirement and it is the Planning Commission's
discretion, should it feel there is sufficient cause to exceed that minimum
requirement, to include that as a condition of approval. In light of some of
the factors that VC/Nelson has raised, primarily the diameter breast height
of the species and according to the arborist's report, two of those trees are
rated as being in good condition with the third in fair condition. In addition,
the two trees that are rated "good" are multi -trunked, one a double trunk
and one a triple trunk. Accordingly, the Commission could consider each
trunk to be cause for a 3:1 replacement ratio. CDID/Gubman said he
believed the Commission was on solid foundation and within its authority
to do so if it wished to impose a condition to exceed the amount of
mitigation. There may be reasons why it may not be the best solution to
increase the size of the trees since a smaller tree acclimates more rapidly
so more of the smaller trees such as the 15 gallon trees may be a
reasonable way to get closer to compensating for the loss of these three
trees. Another consideration is that there are a total of 21 trees in the
proposed landscape plan, nine of which would be coast live oaks and the
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Commission might want to consider a larger number of the coast live oaks
in lieu of the other varieties such as crape myrtle and black bamboo as
proposed. In conclusion, the Commission could consider more trees or
revising the varieties and current quantities to a higher percentage of
coast live oaks.
VC/Nelson said he would propose an amendment to the resolution during
deliberation and if the Commission concurred, ask the applicant/owner to
agree or disagree.
Chair/Lin asked if there was a maximum tree replacement ratio and
CDD/Gubman responded "no."
Chair/Lin re -opened the public hearing.
David Ying, neighbor to the east of the proposed project, said that if he
understood the plan correctly it appeared that the setback got a waiver
from the property line since the 15 -foot setback had been approved for a
10 foot setback. Chair/Lin said he believed the permitted minimum
setbacks were 15 feet on one side and 10 feet 4 inches on the other side.
Mr. Ying wanted to know why the structure was proposed to be so close to
his property (10 feet) when there was a 52 foot setback on the other side.
The new building will extend much further into the rear yard 40 to 50 feet
from the current house. He wanted to know if the structure could be
moved to the side (farther away from his home) and build a structure more
evenly placed between the property lines on either side instead of
extending all of the way back. The extension of the proposed structure
into the rear yard area will block the view and the sunlight to his back yard.
He said that it is apparent that the current structure is heavily infested with
termites and when the structure is removed the termites will fly to other
areas and probably to his home so can the termites be killed before the
structure is razed.
Chair/Lin closed the public hearing.
Mr. Hu responded to the speaker's questions and concerns. Mr. Hu
explained that the property south of the house where the protected trees
are located has a very steep slope of about 35 percent and it would be
prohibitively expensive to build on the slope. In addition, if the house were
to be centered on the lot it would require removal of a large number of
trees and it would require a 10-15 feet stepped retaining wall down the
entire length of the slope, which would again be very, very expensive.
With respect to termites, the applicant agrees to a condition to have a
termite and extermination report prior to demolition of the house. The
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current footprint of the house will be demolished but the new construction
will be in the same location and the setback will remain essentially the
same to minimize the amount of cut and fill.
Chair/Lin said that this afternoon he spent about 30 minutes at the site
because he initially thought the lot was empty and then he observed that
the structure is empty. The house indicates an address of 21143 and the
plans show an address of 21141. Mr. Hu said he was surprised about this
discrepancy. Chair/Lin asked if the dotted line on the plans shows the
location of the current house in which case the new house would be about
three times the size of the current house. Mr. Hu explained that the
house ends at the jagged line and the dotted line shows theswimming
pool and patio area. Chair/Lin said that the plan shows that the current
grade is about one percent and the project proposes a four foot
curved/terraced retaining wall without any piling. Chair/Lin asked Mr. Hu if
he thought the house would be held by the retaining walls and whether
Mr. Hu, had a soils report to support that assumption. Mr. Hu said he has
a soils report and the house will be supported on caissons. Jack Lee, Cal
Land Engineering, Inc., civil and soils engineer, said that for this job the
bedrock condition is very shallow and his firm recommended using
caissons for the retaining wall and grading variation. The entire building
foundation will be supported by compacted fill and the foundation itself will
be entirely on bedrock and/or on compacted fill. The caissons will be
inserted into the bedrock.
Chair/Lin said he did not believe that there was sufficient room for the car
nearest the dwelling in the four -car structure to back out without hitting the
wall with only 20 feet between the edges of the buildings, and asked staff
what the standard driveway width is for a car to back out of a driveway.
CDD/Gubman responded that there needs to be a clear area 26 feet back
from the garage door opening. Chair/Lin said the plan shows 21 feet and
10 inches. SP/Lee clarified that the code requires 25 feet and the
applicant is proposing 26 feet. Chair/Lin said he measured 20 feet
6 inches. Mr. Hu explained that there are two two -car garage doors and
the area measures 26 feet in one area and 20 feet 10 inches in another.
The design shows that the driver can rotate the wheel to turn into the
larger area. The plan could be revised to inset the area into the house to
create a 26 foot backing area. This was done to create greater
architectural interest.
Chair/Lin asked what the monument was on the left side of the front view
of the structure. Mr. Hu said it was an architectural feature to create a
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material offset and make it visually more appealing rather than have the
entire front the same color and provide natural lighting in the garage and
accommodate the address of the home.
Chair/Lin wanted to know what the second paragraph of the summary
which read that the "design would be compatible with the character of the
eclectic neighborhood" meant because he felt that the proposed house
was not compatible with the neighborhood. The house is very
contemporary in design and neighboring, properties are 60's and 70's era
houses. The project is an eyesore to him and compatibility is one of the
conditions of approval. CDD/Gubman agreed with Chair/Lin that there is
every style of house in The Country Estates which is not like Santa
Barbara for example, where there is a very well defined, precise
architectural language that construction needs to abide by. This diversity
of architecture has evolved over the many years during which The Country
Estates has built -out and moreover, the more rustic low -profile scale of the
original generation of homes is undergoing the cycle of being replaced by
significantly larger homes. Although Chair/Lin is correct that this is within
an immediate context of the ranch style homes that characterize those
originally developed in The Country Estates, if you look at The Country
Estates as a whole, the transformation to much larger grand estates is the
character defining feature for the area. So it is a subjective determination
with respect to compatibility, but staff looks at it in light of the development
patterns in The Country Estates as a whole and staff's conclusion is that
this is consistent with that overall transformation that has been ongoing.
C/Shah said that some of the homes in the area are large. Some of the
homes you view as you drive along Diamond Bar Boulevard are modern
and this project is a beautiful design for which he commends the architect.
The world is moving and architecture needs to move along with it. His
opinion is that while it is eclectic in nature he agrees with staff that it is
compatible and it is a beautiful design which he likes.
VC/Nelson added that The Country Estates has its own architectural
review board that reviews these projects and even though the City does
not have to abide by what they say or require, their community is their
community.
C/Farago asked why since there is so much room on the side of the house
opposite the 10 foot setback, why would the City not Move the structure to
the other side in order to create a 15 foot setback. PC/Espino said it goes
to the question of the steepness of the slope and the existing home is
relatively in the same location as the proposed home so there is really no
increase as far as the distance. C/Farago said the home is not 30 feet
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high and PC/Espino responded that that portion of the home is going to be
set back at the rear of the structure and not on the front end. In order for
the house to be shifted toward the west, there would be more grading
challenges and more environmental issues with respect to removal of
protected trees. He said he believes the solution, according to his
analysis, is the addition to the rear of the property by creating a spl.it pad is
somewhere in the middle of trying to accommodate the new home while
maintaining sensitivity to the grade and vegetation on the west side of the
property. Mr. Hu said that the initial step for this project was to analyze
the lot with respect to minimizing the amount of grading to accommodate
the proposed project. The first consideration was to attempt to reuse the
pad of the existing house which resulted in minimal grading. In addition,
the project sought to minimize the removal of the oak trees which was
challenging in itself. This project proposes a lot of landscaping along the
dividing wall/buffer to screen the house from the neighbor's property to
screen out the 35 -foot high area with higher trees.
C/Torng said he felt the design was reasonable from an environmental
standpoint. He asked staff to respond to the neighbor/speaker about his
concerns regarding losing his view and what the statutes are regarding
that issue. CDD/Gubman stated that as previously been discussed,
Diamond Bar does not have a "view protection" requirement when dealing
with existing lots of record so there is no criteria for protecting views or
considering how a project affects a neighboring view. However, The
Country Estates architectural committee has the authority to approve or
reject a project based on 'a variety of factors that the City does not have
the authority or tools to mandate, but the property owner/developer has to
satisfy both the City's requirements and the homeowners' association
requirements. As VC/Nelson said, the City does not have to take into
account the decision making process of The Country Estate; however, the
applicant is subject to fulfilling the requirements of both approval bodies.
Mr. Hu said -that this project has secured the approval of the homeowners'
association for this project. Chair/Lin said that the approval does not have
any bearing on the decision of this body.
C/Torng said he believed that most of the time when the Commission is
challenged with approving this type of project he likes to see the type of
visual table staff provided in the report and is pleased that this project
meets all of the requirements. He believes that the applicant did all of his
work and tried to meet all of the requirements which to him is important.
C/Shah said he believed that once the applicant has met the setback
requirement it is the architect and owner's prerogative to set the house
where it is best suited for the property and not necessarily in the middle of
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the property. The argument that there are existing trees and a significant
grade to the west side of the property it adheres to the benefit of the
owner and architect to set the dwelling on the easterly side of the property.
The footprint appears to be consistent with the total topography of the site
which he likes. He asked staff if termites fly away during demolition and
should this project include a requirement for mitigation. CDD/Gubman
said he could not say with any authority that termites would fly to other
areas during demolition but he believed it was reasonable to presume that
as the building is being demolished and the structural components are
being disrupted and shaken, any dormant termites will take flight and seek
refuge. So he believed it was a reasonable presumption to believe that if
the house is currently infested with termites that it could potentially result
in a scenario where they might migrate to adjacent structures and the
applicant has gone on record agreeing, actually proposing, to go through
the termite abatement process. CDD/Gubman said he believed the
Planning Commission should take the applicant up on his offer and
include it as a condition.
VC/Nelson agreed. He said he just went through termite abatement.
Termites swarm a couple of times a year and that's when they fly.
Otherwise, they do not move. So in combination with the destruction of
the house a condition to require an inspector to check it out and make
sure they are not swarming would probably be a good idea to satisfy the
neighbor's concerns if the applicant agrees. Mr. Hu said the applicant was
not in agreement.
VC/Nelson moved, C/Shah seconded to approve Development Review
No. PI -2012-164, subject to the findings of fact and conditions of approval
as listed within the resolution subject to the addition of the following
conditions subject to the applicant's acceptance: 1) "That the oak tree in
fair condition be replaced at a 3:1 ratio and that in addition to the proposed
replacement of the two trees in good condition, that the applicant add
three 15 -gallon trees for each. of the two "good" condition trees at a
replacement ratio of 6:1, and 2) "That the applicant obtain a termite report
prior to demolition of the existing structure."
Chair/Lin said he is always in favor of new developments that increase the
City's tax revenue base. As a reminder to his colleagues, he propounded
that compatibility is one of the factors to be considered for any project.
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Motion carried by the following Roll Call vote:
AYES:
COMMISSIONERS:
Farago, Shah, Torng, VC/Nelson
NOES:
COMMISSIONERS:
None
ABSTAIN:
COMMISSIONERS:
Chair/Lin
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
None
CDD/Gubman stated that the language of the resolution will be crafted to
reflect the motion received. The replacement ratio for the trees is very
explicit and staff will draft a condition for the termite inspection that sets
forth the requirement that the termite report be submitted to the City prior
to the City's issuance of demolition permits with some additional
stipulation that should there be a recommendation for eradicating the
termites based on the findings, that it so be done. Staff will work with the
applicant on these issues and staff believes it understands the
Commission's request that demolition of the current structure should not
commence without proper investigation and possible abatement and if a
risk is found, the risk for swarming that might impact neighboring
properties will be eradicated.
8. PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS/INFORMATIONAL ITEMS:
9. STAFF COMMENTS/INFORMATIONAL ITEMS:
9.1 Public Hearing dates for future projects.
CDD/Gubman stated that the Commission reorganization meeting will take
place on March 12. For the meeting of February 26 there are two items
on the agenda. The H -Mart Center proposal for a new Chase Bank
building to replace the existing Burger King restaurant and with the Burger
King restaurant at the Honda Dealership location having closed the
weekend before last, Diamond Bar will be without a Burger King
restaurant should the Chase Bank Building project be approved.
Yesterday, there was a court hearing on the matter of the City's lawsuit
against the owners of the Shell Station at Palomino and Diamond Bar
Boulevard. The judge hearing the matter granted the City's request for a
motion to assign a receiver to take possession of the property and with
that motion being granted, the City, along with the prosecutor, will be
proceeding with taking control of the property and finally completing the
project after a substantial amount of legal proceedings to get the City to
this major milestone. The City has the Court Order in hand as well as
access to the financial resources of the property owner to fund those
improvements.
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CDD/Gubman announced that a transaction in which the Ralphs property
has been acquired by a new property owner who issued a press release
announcing the acquisition, and indicated that a Walmart Neighborhood
Market would be the tenant for the space. This is a new product that
Walmart is rolling out. It is strictly a grocery store with no other
component. Although the press release indicated this outcome, staff has
no knowledge that negotiations have concluded and do not know if the
premature announcement of this new tenant might jeopardize the deal
from coming to fruition.
10.- SCHEDULE OF FUTURE EVENTS:
As listed in tonight's agenda.
ADJOURNMENT: With no further business before the Planning Commission,
Chairman Lin adjourned the regular meeting at 8:10 p.m.
The foregoing minutes are hereby approved this 26th day of February, 2013.
Attest:
Respectfully Submitted,
Wv-
Greg Gubman
Community Development Director
Jimmy Lk,-Chairm n