HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/14/2008MINUTES OF THE CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 14, 2008
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Nelson called the meeting. to order at 7:00 p.m. in the South Coast Air Quality
Management District/Government Center Auditorium, 21865 Copley Drive, Diamond Bar, CA
91765.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Commissioner Lee led the Pledge of Allegiance.
1. ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Kwang Ho Lee, Vice Chairman Tony Torng,
Chairman Steve Nelson.
Absent: Commissioners Kathleen Nolan, and Jack Shah were
excused.
Also present: Greg Gubman, Acting Community Development Director;
Natalie Tobon, Planning Intern; Katherine Laufenburger, Senior Planner; and Stella
Marquez, Senior Administrative Assistant.
2. MATTERS FROM THE AUDIENCE/PUBLIC COMMENTS: None.
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: As presented.
4. CONSENT CALENDAR:
4.1 Minutes of Regular Meeting of September 23, 2008.
VC/Torng moved, C/Lee seconded to approve Consent Calendar Item 4.1 as
corrected. Motion carried by the following Roll Call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
5. OLD BUSINESS:
6. NEW BUSINESS:
7. PUBLIC HEARING:
COMMISSIONERS
COMMISSIONERS
COMMISSIONERS
None.
None.
Lee, VC/Torng, Chair/Nelson
None
Nolan, Shah
7.1 Development Code Amendment No. 2008-01 — Under the authority of Chapter
22.70 of the City of Diamond Bar Development Code, this was a request to amend
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Table 2-6 of Section 22.10.030 to allow limited educational uses in the C-3
Regional Commercial Zoning District.
APPLICANT: Eden Dongsan Investments, Inc.
3751 N. Hermosa Place
Fullerton, CA 92835
SP/Laufenburger presented staffs report and recommended Planning
Commission approval of Development Code Amendment No. 2008-01, based on
the Findings of Fact, and subject to the conditions of approval as listed within the
resolution.
Chair/Nelson asked for confirmation that this change would affect office buildings
more than retail. SP/Laufenburger responded affirmatively in that the proposed
amendment only allows ancillary educational uses on the ground floor of buildings
in the C-3 zone. A second floor is generally not a good draw for retail uses so the
educational use would be a 100 percent allowable use for the second floor and
accordingly, the use would be reduced to 15 percent for the first floor.
Chair/Nelson said he was trying to understand what effect this change would have
on the City's receipt of sales tax income from retail sales. If this change primarily
affects the office structures within the C-3 zone why would there be any
educational non -retail use allowed on the first floor? ACDD/Gubman explained
that staffs intent is to first be mindful of the intent of the C-3 zone which is to
provide space for regional tenants or tenants that will draw regional traffic in order
to generate more tax revenue and also find a way to accommodate limited
education uses because there are examples such as a music store or an art
supply retailer that use tutoring/lessons as a platform to generate sales thus
providing some synergy. Chair/Nelson asked if it was possible to restrict the uses
in the zoning to something like music lessons as opposed to a tutoring operation.
ACDD/Gubman said that he felt by definition it would because an educational use
is being required on the first floor to only be ancillary to a permitted use.
Chair/Nelson said he meant a retail use, hopefully. ACDD/Gubman responded
that it would primarily apply to retail uses, but could also apply to real estate
offices, which are permitted in the C-3 zone, which provide real estate license
instruction. The proposed amendment would exclude a Sylvan Learning Center,
for example, or some other exclusively educational use because it is a primary use
and by definition would not fit the C-3 zoning.
C/Lee said staffs report did not provide information about the building and its
proximity to other residences and commercial structures to his satisfaction. He
asked if staff had a site plan or specific information about the building.
ACDD/Gubman responded that staff was not proposing a zone change for a
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specific building or consideration of a use for a specific building. This proposal is
to change regulations for all C-3 zoned properties. If this ordinance is adopted a
potential applicant would be able to apply for a Conditional Use Permit to establish
an educational use. Therefore, the Commission would not be obligated to approve
an educational use in a location that was unsuitable. This ordinance would not
specify that an educational use would be permitted in any particular location.
VC/Torng referred to Table 2-6, Page 2 and clarified that the Conditional User
Permit would be shown on Page 2. He believed the fourth column should be Zone
"I" for Industry. He said he wanted consistency so that on Page 2 the first table
would be 1 and he did not understand "I" was not shown on Pages 3 and 4.
There were no ex parte disclosures.
Chair/Nelson opened the Public Hearing.
With no one present who wished to speak on this item, Chair/Nelson closed the
Public Hearing.
VC/Torng motioned, C/Lee seconded, to approve Development Code Amendment
No. 2008-01. Chair/Nelson said he felt the balance considerations were to provide
opportunities for this kind of use and that there was obviously a demand for the
uses. He really appreciated ACDD/Gubman's comments about the synergy and
ancillary uses. On the other hand, he wants to make sure that individuals are not
afraid to invest in Diamond Bar because the City's ordinances and zoning codes
are too strict and prevent lease out of the spaces. Motion carried by the following
Roll Call vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: VC/Torng, Lee, Chair/Nelson
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Nolan, Shah
7.2 Development Review No. 2008-16 — Under the authority of Chapter 22.48 of the
City of Diamond Bar Development Code, this was a request to construct three new
decks/balconies totaling 3060 square feet on the rear of an existing 5881 square
foot single family residence located in the Rural Residential (RR) zone.
PROJECT ADDRESS:
PROPERTY OWNER:
2637 Blaze Trail
Diamond Bar, CA 91765
Dipak and Harshila Doshi
2637 Blaze Trail
Diamond Bar, CA 91765
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APPLICANT: Simon Shum
S&W Development
20272 Carrey Road
Walnut, CA 91789
SP/Laufenburger presented staffs report and recommended Planning
Commission approval of Development Review No. 2008-16, based on Findings of
Fact, and subject to the conditions of approval as listed within the resolution.
Chair/Nelson wanted to know to know what the construction faced and from what
sites in the City this project would or could be visible. SP/Laufenburger said it was
not visible from Diamond Bar Boulevard. SP/Laufenburger explained that the
project faces a vacant canyon and there is all vacant land behind the structure.
C/Lee asked if staff had a conceptual landscape plan so that he could see more of
the finished product. He felt staffs report was lacking information and detail and
said that the next time there was an addition or project he would like to see
detailed plans with conceptual landscape drawings and other details.
Chair/Nelson explained that the primary focus of the Planning Commission is to
address land uses and codes. The detail of the building is not something that is
within the Commissions purview. He was not suggesting that C/Lee could not take
an interest in those details but was not sure that staff should be held responsible
for providing that level of detail. He felt those kinds of questions were best
addressed to the applicant's representative.
C/Lee commented that he understood that the Planning Commission did not
thoroughly analyze the plans but as Planning Commissioners he felt they should
evaluate and decide outside appearance as a part of the project. Just two sheets
of 11 x17 plans is not enough information for him so he wanted staff to prepare
more detailed information next time. Chair/Nelson asked C/Lee what he
specifically wanted and C/Lee wanted to see the conceptual landscape plan so
that the Commissioners could consider the appearance of the house. Also, he
cannot discern the appearance of the deck and there is no description about the
finished elevation. SP/Laufenburger explained that a conceptual landscape plan
was not required for this project because it is an existing house that has
landscaping. The landscape plan would be required at the time the applicant
submitted the building plans. ACDD/Gubman said that if the Commission wanted
full sized plans staff would be happy to provide them in the future if the 11 x17 size
is not acceptable. All of the details are provided in the plans presented by staff
this evening. They may be difficult to view due to the size of the reprint. The plan
itself is a bit complicated and it was difficult for staff to decipher the details and
look of the project. As a result, the architect prepared the isometric rendering to
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help illustrate how the proposed addition would appear and staff attempted to
highlight the different components through the PowerPoint presentation.
C/Lee said the Commissioners' function was to evaluate and decide based on land
use, appearance and safety, and that is why he requested to see the full plans
including a cross section of the retaining walls. He again asked that staff submit a
full set of comprehensive plans. ACCD/Gubman asked that C/Lee forgive him for
disagreeing with him but it is not within the Planning Commission's purview to
make decisions based on the Building Code so staff will not be providing the
Commission with structural plans.
Chair/Nelson asked that this subject be deferred to discussion under Item 8.
There were no ex parte disclosures.
Chair/Nelson opened the Public Hearing.
Simon Shum, Architect, explained the proposed project and delicate design to
incorporate all of the functionality of the outdoor space on the hillside using the
Isometric. Based on his past experience, once the project is approved it goes to
the City's Engineering Department to determine Caisson depth, etc., for structural
safety.
Chair/Nelson closed the Public Hearing.
C/Lee moved, Chair/Nelson seconded, to approve Development Review No. 2008-
16, based on the Findings of Fact, and subject to the conditions of approval as
listed within the resolution. Motion carried by the following Roll Call vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS
NOES: COMMISSIONERS
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS
Lee, Chair/Nelson, VC/Torng
None
Nolan, Shah
8. PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTSIINFORMATIONAL ITEMS:
Chair/Nelson said his understanding of the Planning Commission's role is that it deals
with land use issues including visual impacts, visual consistency, community consistency
as well as whether or not the Commission feels the project's merits outweighs some
variance from the existing codes, etc. ACDD/Gubman agreed with Chair/Nelson that for
any land use the role of the Commission is to ensure that the use is appropriate to the
location, whether the size and height of the home is appropriate and whether it is too
close to the street and whether it is out of character for a home to be at the minimum
setback on a particular street. If it is a conditional use that depends on a case-by-case
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basis there are other factors that come into play to determine whether the use is
appropriate.
Chair/Nelson said that he has from time to time commented on the use of certain items
within the landscape plan. He asked ACDD/Gubman if that was going outside of the
bounds of the Commission's assignment and ACDD/Gubman responded no, that it was
not because it can be related to compatibility. For example, an invasive plant species is
clearly incompatible with the ecology of the area.
Chair/Nelson said that C/Lee has perfectly valid concerns. He asked C/Lee to describe
what he would like to have his role be within the Commission. C/Lee said he wanted
more information and said that he needed to see landscape plans to be able to determine
whether it was compatible and acceptable within the community to adjacent properties.
He does not want to encroach on other department's function he just wants to see the
general appearance of the house plans. Compared to other cities Diamond Bar is very
flexible and business oriented and tries to entice individuals to invest in the City. He did
not believe one or two pages were enough to allow him to decide about a project. He
wants to have more information to decide the merits of a project so he can make a proven
decision. Today he was surprised to get two pieces of paper and one elevation and
asked to approve this unusual project. ACDD/Gubman responded that staff would
provide the Commission with the level of detail that was commensurate with the scale and
complexity of the project. If the project in question was an entire new house the staff
report would be much more detailed and plans would be provided accordingly. This is an
addition of a multi -tiered deck, a very simple and basic project that barely reached the
threshold for Planning Commission review. There is not a lot to explain about this project
and the best staff can do is to use graphic examples to help explain what the project
looks like.
C/Lee said he believed every project and plan should be treated in the same manner. If
staff will provide more information in the future he would appreciate it.
VC/Torng said he agreed that if the project followed the rules he would trust staff and
engineering to make safety determinations because it is not the Commissioners' job to do
so. He felt today's presentation was very good and professional and that the project
complied with the Hillside Management considerations. He asked staff to just try to
accommodate C/Lee as much as possible and the Commission would understand.
Chair/Nelson commended C/Lee for his persistence. In the future, the Commission needs
to know the visual impacts. Just because it is contained within "The Country Estates"
does not mean the Commissioners are not concerned.
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C/Lee said that he wanted to see more detail in order to have a greater comfort level on
all projects. Of course he leaves the safety aspects to staff and the appropriate
departments. He wants a greater comfort levet about a project based on the safety
concept. ACDD/Gubman said that it may take time for staff to get on the same page with
C/Lee but that he would take C/Lee's comments into account and look at how concepts
might more thoroughly be presented. Perhaps a larger set of plans would better answer
C/Lee's concems. If Commissioners have, questions or issues they should feel free to call
ACDD/Gubman at the office prior to the meeting in order to better prepare to answer
questions and resolve concerns and better prepare for the meeting.
9. STAFF COMMENTS/INFORMATIONAL ITEMS:
9.1 Public Hearing dates for future proiects.
ACDD/Gubman stated that the Chevron Station at Palomino and Diamond Bar
Boulevard has abandoned its original project and instead has proposed a minor
refresh of the current facility which falls within the purview of staff for approval.
10. SCHEDULE OF FUTURE EVENTS:
As listed in tonight's agenda.
ADJOURNMENT: With no further business before the Planning Commission, Chairman
Nelson adjourned the regular meeting at 8:03 p.m.
The foregoing minutes are hereby approved this 25th day of November, 2008.
Attest:
Respectfully Submitted,
Greg Gubman
Acting Community Development Director
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Steve Nelson, Chairman