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MINUTES OF THE CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
MARCH 24, 1998
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman McManus called the. meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. in the
South Coast Air Quality Management Auditorium, 21865 East Copley
Drive, Diamond Bar, California.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Nelson.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Chairman McManus, Vice Chairman Tye, and
Commissioners Kuo, Nelson and Ruzicka.
Also Present: Deputy City Manager James DeStefano and
Associate Planner Ann Lungu.
MATTERS FROM THE AUDIENCE/PUBLIC COMMENTS: "None
APPROVAL OF AGENDA: As submitted.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. Minutes of March 10, 1998.
CjRuzicka moved, VCjTye seconded, to approve the minutes
of March 10, 1998 as submitted. The motion was carried
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5-0.
OLD BUSINESS - None
NEW BUSINESS - None
PUBLIC -HEARING:
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1, Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 52267, Conditional Use
Permit No. 98-03, Oak Tree Permit No, 98-01 and
Environmental Impact Report No. 97-2, Volume I and II for
VTTM No. 52267. VTTM No. 52267 is proposed for 130
single-family detached residential dwelling units
clustered on approximately 65 acres of a 339.3 acre site.
- The development is proposed as a, private, gated
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community. Lots will range in size from 6,000 square
feet to 26,000 square feet with an average lot size of
10,900 square feet. The gross proposed density is 0.4
dwelling units per acre with a net density of
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approximately 2.06 dwelling units per acre. (Continued
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from the February 24, 1998 meeting.)
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Property Address:-- Generally located east of Diamond '
Bar Boulevard and north of Grand
Avenue.
Property Owner: Diamond Hills Ranch Partnership
550 W. Orangethorpe Avenue
Placentia, CA 92870
Applicant: Todd Kurtin, SunCal Companies
5109 E. LaPalma Avenue, Anaheim, CA
AstP/Lunge presented staff's report.
DCM/DeStefano stated that anticipating that this eventing
would be a public hearing to hear the merits of the
original project and any responses to comments, the
City's staff sent out over 1000 public hearing notices to
surrounding property owners. He reported that letters
received from residents regarding this item have been
included in the Commissioner's packets. Upon receipt of
a letter from the developer, on Thursday, March 19, staff
immediately sent out a copy of the developers letter land
a notice to the effected property owners that the
developer had requested a continuance. Staff recommends
that the Planning Commission open the public hearing,
receive testimony, and continue the matter to April 24,
1998.
Bruce Elieff, President of Suncal Companies, asked the
Planning Commission to grant a continuance in order to
allow the developer additional time.to prepare, study and
present an alternative plan. He concurred with staff's
recommendation to continue the matter to April 24, 1998.
Chair/McManus read the following statement:.
In "William Tell", the rural Swiss realized their ancient
Iiberties'were in danger when the new bailiff road up to
reprimand one of them for the offense of erecting a
dwelling on his own land. "I am the Regent inithe
Emperor's stead and will not have the peasants building
houses of their own will and living lives as freely as if
they were the masters in this country." The peasants
feared before long, the new overlords would turn their
properties into game preserves for their .own amusement.
Today it is routine to read of a landowner denied
permission to build a house, lay down a gravel path or
plant or trim a tree.
Today, once it is proven that swamps or trees are
ecologically valuable, you've, proven the case for
ordering the owners'to maintain them forever at whatever
sacrifice., "This is the equivalent of an admiral saying
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that because the U.S. needs a navy, the government can
take your land for a dockyard without paying you."
It used to be that uncle Sam and -other entities would buy
land when they needed to expand a park or set aside a
wildlife refuge.,, That's the method contemplated in the
Bill of Rights, whose Fifth Amendment reads, in part,
"nor shall private property be taken for public use
without just compensation".
Having to'pay for takings imposes both a pragmatic and a
moral discipline on those who wield power: ,if you must
pay, then it forces thought about what 'is really valuable
and what is not. if the property is free, the outcome is
obvious, take everything you can get your hands on."
Please do not ask us (The Planning Commission) to leave
title with the owner and freeze the use. While we
realize there is no physical taking, consider the moral
side of this issue. Pro -property forces should stand
firmly where they belong, on the moral high ground.
How will you feel when someone demands you donate your
property to their cause?
Chair/McManus stated that this body is not the�City
Council - it is a Commission whose members are not
elected but appointed. The Planning Commission does not
have the final say in this, matter. The property in
question had been in private hands long before Diamond
Bar was incorporated. When SunCal purchased the
property, a contract with a Memorandum of Understanding
in place was entered- into with the understanding that
they could develop this property. . He said that while
residents come before the Planning Commission and state
they want the Commission to leave the property in its"
present state, this body would prefer that the residents
make recommendations as to how the property can ,be
developed in a manner that is acceptable to the residents
and not put the'City in jeopardy of a lawsuit.
George Davidson, 23426 E. Wagon Trail Road, asked if a 14
or 21 day restriction could be placed on public hearing
changes or continuances to give the residents more prior
notice. He asked if the EIR will -be reopened.
DCMJDeStefano responded. that he is not aware of any
provision: that would compel the City to require the
developer, to give such extended notice of a requested
continuance. The applicant has significant rights to
process and may even request a continuance in the middle
of a public hearing.
Ron Tehrany, 745 View Lane, said he believes two weeks is
not enough time for staff and the public to review the
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plan and that the EIR should be reopened for
comment.
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DCM/DeStefano stated the EIR public comment period has
been closed. and further public comments are addressed
in the "Response to Comments" portion of the document.
Until all facts regarding the revised proposed project
are .presented, staff will not ,make a ,determination
regarding possible recirculation of the project.
Sam Saffari, 24075 Highcrest Drive, said that the main
reason he is present, tonight is to make certain the
Commission understands that these delays are a ploy by
the developer to wear down the citizens. He stated that
there are never answers.provided to resident's questions.
He said that at the last meeting, he asked that more than
1000 people be noticed about this project and he doesinot
think the developer would have a problem with wider
notification. Notifying people is a requirement if they
are going'to be exposed to 1.8 billion cubic feet of dirt
in the air for three years. 1000 households is not even
remotely the number of people that will.be effected by
this project. He said he believes the whole of Diamond
Bar will be effected. The EIR has to be opened because
the project will be different. He said he heard ''the
north face buttress proposed to be installed by the
developer is as big as Hoover Dam. To him it is a joke
because he doesn't know how you can hold this project up.
At the bottom of the project next to Diamond 'Bar
Boulevard there used to be a corridor for animals and now
there isn't. He stated that the new project is impacting
a different type of area and people and the EIR is
required to be opened. He said he believes an option for
the City of Diamond Bar that has no surplus funds is to
buy the land and you can put it to a vote of the people.
He further stated that the residents are sick and tired"
of the traffic and do not want explosions next to their
houses six days a week.
A Diamond;Bar citizen living at 508 Rexford Court, asked
what it takes to approve the project. He likes the
project but he would like to see the criteria used to
evaluate a project of this type so that an unbiased
decision can be reached. He spoke about his concerns
regarding the staff costs involved in a project of ithis
type and asked the Commissioners to take this -matter
under consideration and decide whether these
continuations are a waste of Diamond Bar's resources.
The City needs for land to remain in its natural state
and not necessaril.v for the citizens to purchase the Aand
to build parks.
Nina Goncharov, 23631 Gold Nugget Avenue, said she lives
close to the project and was not notified of any
meetings. She asked to be placed on the City's mailing
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list. She also asked for a copy of Chair/McManus'
statement.
Carol Long, 1044 Summitridge Drive, said she""was told by
a former City Council Member- that if this _project is
pushed through that there is a parcel of -land that the
developer owns which is situated on Summitridge Drive
between Summitridge park and the neighborhood park and
that the land will.be given to the City of Diamond Bar
for construction of a new City Hall. She asked if this
information is correct.
DCM/DeStefano stated that Summitridge Park is owned by
the City.of Diamond Bar. The hill on Summitridge Park
which is;parallel to Summitridge. Drive -is City -owned
property. Discussions have taken place regarding the
need for .a City Hall facility and sites are. being
contemplated for that purpose including the City -owned
Summitridge Park site. He presented a map which shows no
known developer owned property adjacent to Summitridge
Drive. The only access to the developer's property is
Diamond Bar Boulevard at Tin Drive and a proposed
emergency gate at Highcrest Drive.
Mr. Elieff offered to answer any questions the public may
have. He asked that concerned residents call Mr. Todd
Kurtin or Bruce Elieff at (714) 693-6700.
Chair/McManus closed the public hearing.
C/Ruzicka moved, C/Nelson seconded, to reopen the public
hearing and continue the matter to April 28, 1998. The
motion was carried 5-0.
2. Conditional Use Permit No. 98-1 and Development Review
No., 98-1 (pursuant to Code Section 22.56 -Part 1 ands
22.72.020.A) is a request to construct and operate an
unmanned Bank of America Automated Teller Machine Kiosk
in the Country Hills Towne Center within an area between
the existing The Wherehouse music and video store and the
Diamond Bar Boulevard entrance to the center. (Continued
from February 24, 1998)
Project Address: Country Hills Towne Center, Diamond
Bar Boulevard, Diamond Bar
Applicant: Bank of America, 600 Wilshire
Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90017
Property Owner: M & H Realty Partners, 1721 W.
Imperial Highway #G, LaHabra, -CA
90361
DCM/DeStefano presented staff's report'.` Staff recommends
that this project be continued to April 14, 1998 to allow
the applicant time to submit revised plans.
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Chair/McManus opened the public hearing.I
There was no one present who wished to speak on this
item.
C/Ruzicka moved, C/Kuo seconded, to continue the pub is .
hearing for Conditional' Use Permit No. 98-1 nd
Development Review No. '98-1 to April 14, 1998. The
motion was carried 5-0.
PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS:
C/Nelson stated that with respect to the SunCal project,he
listened to the prior meeting tapes and was disappointed about the
applicant's continual reference to "highest and best use". He said
he certainly believes -in the Fifth Amendment to the United States
Constitution and indicated he supports Chair/McManus' earlier
statement. He said he is also disappointed in the opposition to
the project and the exaggerations that have been expressed and 'the
degradation of the City's staff. He stated he will keep an open
mind and will consider all -prior statements as well as, his own
unbiased opinion from 24' years of experience in this field .when
considering this project.
C/Kuo stated he shares C/Nelson's concerns and disappointments. -He
said he is present to become acquainted with his job as a
Commissioner. He believes that together, the Commissioners can do ¢;
a great job for the City of Diamond Bar as long as they keep and
open mind, set ground rules and maintain the laws.
C/Ruzicka thanked DCM/DeStefano for reiterating that the developer
bears the burden of project related costs.
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vC/tye stated that this is his seventh Planning commission meeting
and it is time, to set the record straight because he has been
hearing a fair amount of misinformation from the speakers podium..
He is concerned that residents do not understand the process ',the
City must go through to consider a proposed project and if they do
of a ear to a s e to to
it. This
understand the process, they do n pp PP
landowner is entitled to -due process and he is entitled a
continuance if he so desires. Continuances are not a ploy. He
understands that it is difficult for people to speak their minds
and stay away from the emotional buzz words like "ploy", "illegal",
"lawsuit", etc. Mr. Saffari made a reference to 1.8 billion cubic
r yards of dirt being moved. The report clearly states tha 1.
E" million cubic yards of dirt is proposed to be moved. It is this
kind of misinformation that can be stated over and over again i; it
U, - is not challenged. He said he feels that the people who are
addressing this issue and getting the neighborhood residents
excited are as well -versed as they chose to be.
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Chair/McManus thanked the Commissioners and staff for their
objectivity.
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INFORMATIONAL ITEMS:
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DCM/DeStefano stated that on April 14, 1998 in addition to the
' unmanned Bank of America automated Teller Machine Kiosk Conditional
Use Permit, the Planning Commission will consider a restaurant
proposed to be located in the Ralphs Shopping Center just north of
Enterprise Car Rental in a space of about 3,000 square. -feet and the
adoption of the revised Planning Commissioner's Manual. In
addition, the City Attorney will, provide the Commission with' an
orientation of the Brown Act and other pertinent legal issues.
DCM/DeStefanoindicated that 'earlier this evening he approved
.construction of a.4800 square foot single family home at 689
Leyland Drive and continued to April 8, 1998, a proposed 10,000
square foot home at 22818 Canyon View Drive in "The Country
Estates".
DCM/DeStefano pointed out that on April 18, 1998, the City will
participate in a county -wide Household Hazardous Waste Roundup.
Items may be dropped at 1300 Bridge Gate Drive in the Gateway
Corporate Center.
SCHEDULE OF FUTURE EVENTS as listed in the agenda.
ADJOURNMENT:
VC/Tye moved, C/Ruzicka seconded, to adjourn .the meeting to April
14, 1998.- There being no further business to come before the
Planning Commission, Chair/McManus adjourned the meeting at 8:30
p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
J*,r,�es DeStefaz_o
Secretary to toe Planning Commission
Attest:
.Joe McManus
Chairman