HomeMy WebLinkAbout5/10/1993CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
MAY 10, 1993
( CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Flamenbaum called the meeting to order at
7:15 p.m. at the South Coast Air Quality Management
District Auditorium, 21865 E. Copley Drive, Diamond
Bar, California.
PLEDGE OF The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by
ALLEGIANCE: Chairman Flamenbaum.
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners: Grothe, Li, Plunk, Vice Chairman
Meyer, and Chairman Flamenbaum.
Also present were Community Development Director
James DeStefano, Associate Planner Rob Searcy,
Planning Technician Ann Lungu, Deputy City Attorney
Craig Fox, Interim City Engineer George Wentz, and
Contract Recording Secretary Liz Myers.
MATTERS FROM
Nick Anis, residing at 1125 Branford Court,
THE AUDIENCE:
expressed his concern that information regarding
Sandstone Canyon and the proposed project was
misrepresented. Though he was told that the canyon
was pristine, he stated that, after going into the
canyon over the weekend, he found a substantial
amount of trash and rubbish bath in the canyon and
in the stream. Furthermore, several firemen had
indicated to him that they felt that Sandstone
Canyon was the greatest fire risk in Diamond Bar
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and the surrounding area. Another misnomer is that
there is a deed restriction, yet upon
investigation, there is actually a map restriction.
Chair/ Flamenbaum stated that a letter regarding
Sandstone Canyon has been submitted by Mr. Anis.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by C/Plunk
and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to continue the Minutes of
Minutes of
April 26, 1993 to the next meeting.
Apr. 26, 1993
The Planning Commission concurred not to hear any
new items after 10:30 p.m.
CONTINUED
CDD/DeStefano reported that the South Pointe Master
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Plan project represents a comprehensive land use
planning effort on approximately 171 acres of
General Plan
primarily undeveloped land. The proposed project
Amendment 92-2;
is designed with a combination of residential,
DA 92-1, 2, and 3;
recreational, commercial/office, open space and
Vesting TT Map
educational uses. Approximately 80 residential
51407, CUP 92-8 &
acres are proposed for construction of
OT 92-8; ZC 91-2 &
approximately 195 single family homes, 31 acres are
1 OT 91-2; TT Map
proposed for a future commercial/office space
51253 & CUP 92-12;
development adjacent to Brea Canyon Road, 28 acres
OT 92-9; SP Master
are proposed for a public park site for both
Plan; & EIR 92-1
passive and active recreational uses, and 31 acres
are proposed for the construction of a permanent
South Pointe Middle School. The project would be
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developed over a, ten year period. The Planning
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Commission has reviewed the Draft Environmental
Impact Report and has directed staff to begin
preparation of the appropriate resolutions
recommending City Council certification. Because
approval of the General Plan was rescinded in March
of 1993 by the City Council, no action or
consideration will be undertaken in furtherance of
an amendment to the General Plan. However, the
Development Agreements, Tract Maps, and associated
permits may proceed with reference to the Draft
General Plan pursuant to the provisions of
Ordinance No. 4 (1992). The Planning Commission
concluded its April 29th public hearing by
determining that the South Pointe Master Plan
zoning regulations and development standards were
consistent with the Draft General Plan. Staff was
directed to prepare the appropriate resolutions for
future Planning Commission consideration. The
Planning Commission will now begin consideration of
the Tentative Tract Maps. As noted within the
South Pointe Master Plan development standards, the
171 acre site has been divided into five land use
enclaves. Vesting Tentative Tract Map 51407 (RnP)
and Tentative Tract No. 51253 (Sasak Corporation)
are located within Enclave 1, and Vesting Tentative
Tract No. 32400 (Arciero & Sons) is located within
Enclave 3. Each Tentative Tract map has been
designed to development standards consistent with
the Master Plan. CDD/DeStefano then reviewed the
three subdivision specific proposals, as indicated
in the staff report., It is staff's recommendation
that the Planning Commission approve "in concept"
the three proposed subdivisions, and direct staff
to bring back revised resolutions for formal
adoption at the next Planning Commission meeting.
It is further recommended that the Commission
undertake specific discussion of the Development
Agreements in order to permit staff to finalize the
documents for future adoption. The Development
Agreement establishes the terms and conditions from
which the development -can proceed and provides the
applicants with assurances based upon their
commitment to timing and compliance with the
agreements. The agreements incorporate a variety
of land transfers and commitments by all parties
toward the successful completion of the proposed
project. CDD/DeStefano then stated that the EIR
will be brought back to the Commission for final
consideration as part of the final resolutions for
review, at the time that the Commission begins to
come to closure on this specific project to be
forwarded to the City Council. It is recommended
that the Planning Commission approve the South
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Pointe Master Plan development standards and major
elements, and that the Commission take action to
approve Vesting Tentative Map No. 51407, Vesting
Tentative Map No. 32400, and Tentative Tract Map
No. 51253 with the draft findings and conditions
contained within the attached resolutions, and that
the Commission review the proposed Development
Agreements.
VC/Meyer suggested that, since the Sasak
Corporation has presented a new iteration of the
Tract Map, they should be allowed an opportunity to
present their new proposal.
Mr. Budke, representing Mr. Patel, reviewed the
details of the proposed subdivision as follows:
the recently submitted Tentative Tract Map is now
in line with the City's zoning and ordinances, and
meets all the criteria of the Master Plan; the
adjusted 7.05 acre site is currently proposed as 21
single family units; street "B" and "D" is now a
through street that goes to Morning Sun, and is 60
feet wide, and there is a short median; the map is
a direct result of recommendations made by some of
the Commission members; the average lot size is
-� 11,821 square feet; the average pad size is 8,096
square feet; the largest lot, lot #4, has 20,962
square feet; the largest pad, lot #4, has 11,214
square feet; the smallest lot, lot #20, has 8,056
square feet; the smallest pad, lot #16, has 6,290
square feet; there is a lot line adjustment being
proposed adjacent to lot #5, #6, & #7, and on the
easterly side of lot #12 & #13, as an effort to
make this,a seamless development, which increases
the overall density of this project by 15,300
square feet, and adds 1,750 square feet to the RnP
site; the gross record density, at 6.7 acres, is
3.13 dwelling units per acre, which is almost
exactly what is existing on Morning Sun; the
adjusted gross density is 2.98 DU/per acre; the net
net density provides an adjusted density of 3.07
DU/acre; the adjusted layout exports 10,400 less
earthwork; there will probably be one graded
contractor for the Master Plan project; and the
maximum fill is 44 feet. Mr. Budke stated that
generally, in their opinion, this proposed
subdivision is now in line with the other two
projects. They are looking for approval on this
project and the entire Master Plan.
VC/Meyer inquired if there was consideration made,
in the current design analysis, to connect street
"B" with Shepherd Hill.
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Mr. Budke pointed out that, a proposal having that
connection was presented at the last meeting,
however, such a design would require an easement
for sewer and emergency egress access to the
proposed cul-de-sac. This current design is in
response to Chair/Flamenbaum's suggestion that the
other proposal not be utilized, preferring the
alignment now presented.
VC/Meyer suggested that the street can still be
aligned with Shepherd Hill by using the current
configuration, and maintaining the concept of
discouraging cut -through traffic through the entire
project. There is an obligation to those residents
living on the Morning Sun cul-de-sac to leave the
neighborhood as itis currently, if at all
possible.
Mr. Budke pointed out that, with the current
configuration, there are only five homes along
Shepherd Hills and street "A" that will be
affected. The only way to redesign it so that none
of the homes are affected is to have a double
loaded row of lots, which is detrimental from a
marketing standpoint. It had been suggested by
Chair/Flamenbaum to design it so that there would
be a connection right at Shepherd Hills.
VC/Meyer noted that the current design also has
double loaded row of lots. If it is engineeringly
feasible, the design should be modified, keeping
all the utilities and sewer exactly as it is
currently shown through a common easement between
lots #1 and #21, but moving the street to the
south. This modification may result in the loss of
one lot, however, it is important to leave the cul-
de-sac as is, without affecting existing residents.
Mr. Budke stated that, from an engineering
standpoint in terms of the impact on the RnP site,
and sewer and drainage, it does not make sense to
connect to Shepherd Hills. our first choice was
not to have a through street regardless.
C/Plunk stated that it would appear that this
current design is attempting to get the most while
giving the least. If lots #5, #6, #7, #12, & #13,
which encroach on the RnP property, were removed,
the proposal would be closer to the densities
proposed by the other projects. The other two
projects provide more buffer, such as the school
site and the park site, offering relief to the
local neighborhood. However, this project packs in
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7 more houses right up against the existing
neighborhood, offering very little relief.
Mr. Budke pointed out that the density of the
project is 21 DU/per acre, which is less dense than
the Arciero project, and very comparable in net net
density to the RnP site.
C/Li explained to Mr. Budke that the Commission is
concerned that the proposal has double loaded row
of lots, and that someone else's property must be
utilized in order to substantiate the 21 homes.
The other two proposals offer open space and other
amenities, thereby offering relief to the
neighborhood.
Mr. Budke stated that this project has met all
criteria that has been established. There is
actually room to put as many as 24 lots on the
site. There is no room on this 6.7 acre site to
offer a school or a park.
Jan Dabney, in response to Chair/Flamenbaum, stated
that RnP has agreed upon the lot line adjustment,
as long as it does not impact them dramatically,
°y, and that the layout would demonstrate harmony
through the Master Plan. There has not yet been an
opportunity to review the actual impact being
proposed, however, we were pleased with the
preliminary layout of the plan.
Mr. Budke, in response to VC/Meyer, stated that
they have concurred to construct $18,000 worth of
sidewalks, off site, in the existing Morning Sun
tract, only where necessary to get the children to
the bus stop.
C/Plunk suggested that there be a condition that
approval must be received from the existing
neighborhood prior to constructing curb, gutter,
and sidewalks. The Planning Commission concurred.
Jan Dabney, in response to Chair/Flamenbaum,
explained that the plan for the Larkstone
interconnection would allow it to be made into an
immediate connection when desired. Two cul-de-
sac's cannot come together because the bus would
fi- have to drive over the curb to get to the parking
lot.
C/Grothe requested clarification between the
differing calculations as indicated on page 7, item
2.2, of the Cost Analysis, and page 10, the last
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bullet. He inquired if condition A is calculated
at 10 acres or 15.5 acres.
Hardy Strozier, in response to Chair/Flamenbaum,
explained that Arciero's prior proposal, which was
denied by the County, was a totally different
concept than the one being proposed today before
the Commission.
AP/Searcy, in response to Chair/Flamenbaum's
inquiry regarding last meetings concern that there
was a possible misquote in the letter received from
Pacific Southwest Biological Services, Inc., stated
that staff was informed by the firm that they were
not aware of anything in that letter that would be
cpntradicted by anyone in their office. As of the
time of this meeting, there has been no information
from them stating that there would be any
retractions.
{ CDD/DeStefano, in response to VC/Meyer's concern,
19 stated that, though the Commission cannot take
definitive action this evening, it is staff's
recommendation that very specific direction on the
maps be given because some of the mitigation
measures in the EIR may need to change as a result
of that specific action. The Subdivision Map Act
indicates that the subdivision should be compatible
with the objectives, policies, guidelines, of the
general land use and programs contained in the
Master Plan. It is staff's opinion that all of
these maps are consistent with that charge. Also,
the City is currently operating under Ordinance No.
4 (1992) which permits us to make these
recommendations to the City Council, and to take
definitive action on some other the other cases
before the Commission this evening.
Chair/Flamenbaum recessed the meeting at 8:25 p.m.
The meeting was reconvened at 8:45 p.m.
Dale Levandar, the author of the Fiscal Cost
Benefit Analysis, stated that they have concluded
that the site is good for a commercial retail
complex, and that in all three alternatives, the
City does not show a negative cash flow. In
response to C/Grothe's earlier question, he
explained that there is a typo on page 10, and it
should have read "...based on 8% rate applied to a
value of $435,000 dollars (43,560 square feet per
acre computed at $10.00 per square foot)." .In
addition to the pure economics of the situation,
the projections contain some cost figures which
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over state the proportionate share. This is a cash
flow projection, not a fair share approach.
In response to C/Li, Dale Levander explained that
the analysis shows the cash flow to the City during
the development period, which is 10 years, plus on
an annual basis beyond 10 years. The discounted
cash flow assumes an interest rate of 6 percent.
Chair/Flamenbaum declared the Public, Hearing
opened.
Tom Van Winkle, a resident, advised the commission
to move cautiously on any portion of the project
since the City has no General Plan.
Don Schad, residing at 1824 Shaded Wood, made the
following comments: the EIR should address the
mitigation of "Valley Fever" (Coccidioidomycossia),
which is caused by the prolong dust associated with
the destruction of so much soil; the EIR is
incomplete because the City does not have a
compatible Tree Ordinance; destroying 97% of an
established area is a significant impact, contrary
to what is stated in the EIR; and there are trees
in the canyon that are between 250 and 500 years
old, with no indication that fire occurred.
Barbara Beach Cushane, residing at 2021 Peaceful
Hills, stated that the project not only affects the
Morning Sun tract residents, but also the life of
the Pathfinder community- as well, in a very
negative way.
Chuck Bowler, a resident on Morning Sun, pointed
out that sidewalks would need to be constructed on
Morning Sun, Shepherd Hill, Chapel Hill, and
Tameschaner because that is the route that the
children take to the bus stop. He then suggested
that the homes on Patel's site face Morning Sun,
moving the other homes over so that there are
backyards facing each other rather than one row of
homes with two streets. The road on Morning Sun
should be totally eliminated, and the traffic
should be run back to Colima since the subdivision
is part of Diamond Bar and not Walnut.
Vinod Kashyap, a resident stated that he was under
the impression that the issue of the General Plan
has been resolved. He then stated that, in his
opinion, the needs of the entire community should
take precedent over the needs of the Pathfinder
community.
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Norman Beach Cushane, President of the Pathfinder
Homeowners Association, stated that they were
promised that.this site was to be 90 acres reserved
for parks. He also stated, in response to a
comment made earlier regarding the fire safety of
the Canyon, that there was a fire in the area, but
it was in their tract and no one had to be
evacuated.
VC/Meyer, referring to a HOA meeting that was to be
held regarding the possible use of the existing
open space areas for public use, inquired what the
HOA's position was on that possibility.
Norman Beach Cushane stated that this issue will be
presented to the HOA at the end of the month when
their annual -meeting is scheduled. There is a
concern, if the land is dedicated for public access
to the property, regarding ownership, liability,
and possible development, as is occurring now.
Elizabeth Hodges, a resident, inquired if the
County has given permission to pursue the
construction of sidewalks since it is County
property because it was her impression that the
County Department of Transportation wrote strongly
opposing a road being put on through Morning Sun,
as is indicated in the Response to Comment section
of the EIR.
Hearing no further testimony, the Public Hearing
was declared closed.
Jan Dabney, in response to Chair/Flamenbaum's
inquiry, stated that as long as any liability
issues are resolved, they would not see a problem
with potting the 2 inch oak trees to be removed and
relocated to offer them to the community.
Chair/Flamenbaum suggested that the Commission
proceed as has been recommended by staff.
VC/Meyer stated that he listened to the tapes of
the April 29th meeting and feels that he
understands what went on. He suggested that, if
the review process is to be taken in a linear
progression, the Commission should first revisit
concerns on any issues in the $IR, in order to get
closure on it. Furthermore, since the straw vote,
from the last meeting, on General Plan consistency,
was only a 2-1-1 vote, the Commission should
perhaps revisit that issue as well. If there is
not a consensus on the Master Plan issue, then
there is no need to go through conditions of
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<<µ approval of a tentative tract map -and a development
--agreement, and the project should be recommended to
the City Council for denial.
The Planning Commission concurred to revisit issues
of concern in the EIR.
VC/Meyer stated that he does not concur with the
findings in the EIR that the replacement of Oak
Trees at a 2:1 ratio sufficiently mitigates
covering up 97% of the -trees to a level of
nonsignificance.
Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by C/Plunk
and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to direct staff to prepare
overriding considerations on the removal of the
trees.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Grothe, Plunk, Li,
V C/ M e y e r, a n d
Chair/Flamenbaum.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
VC/Meyer stated that he would prefer that the
Resource Management Plan also deal with the
landscaping concepts, such as statements about the
road, the architectural statement to be made to the
medians, the architectural statement with the
landscaping of the commercial facilities entry,
hillside grading, etc., and to specifically locate
that information in one location.
CDD/DeStefano, noting that the material desired is
already within the documents reviewed by the
Commission, suggested that a specific section be'
added called, "Resource Management Plan" within the
Master Plan's zoning regulations and development
standards that would deal with all of these issues,
or indicate where the information can be found.
Also, the conditions recommended for approval can
be grouped into a section within each resolution
called "Resource Management Plan" which will make
that specific issue more clear to the reviewing
individual or agency in the future that will help
implement the project.
C/Grothe stated that he feels that the areas of
contour grading, bench drains, and landscaping
should be taken directly out of the Hillside
Management Ordinance and placed in the conditions.
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The Planning Commission concurred to place such
information in the resolutions for the specific
tract maps.
CDD/DeStefano stated that staff will also add much
more of the detail of the Hillside Ordinance, along
with the conditions fluent through all the other
documents, and group,them into one section such as
the "Resource Management Plan".
VC/Meyer, concerned that there can be obstructions
that reduce the clearance at the side yards,
suggested that the side yard set back be modified
to a minimum of 5 feet and 12 feet to guarantee
access to the rear yard. Also; the front yard set
back can be determined based upon if the garage
faces the street or if it is perpendicular to the
street, so that the homes are staggered for
aesthetic purposes.
Jan Dabney stated that the intent of the 5 foot and
10 foot side yard set back was to provide the
homeowners access to use their rear yards. If the
Commission desires 10 feet at the side yard setback
then it could be stated as 1110 foot unobstructed",
which is measured from the closest obstruction,
rather than distance.
C/Grothe stated that he would prefer that the
conditions spell out exactly what the engineers
standards are in regards to the street cross
sections, sidewalks, landscaping, etc.
ICE/Wentz stated that those conditions are normally
tied into the tract map, and, if desired, that
detail can be specified as part of the condition,
but doing so can restrain us somewhat if we change
our minds for engineering reasons. It was left
with enough discretion at this time to give
flexibility, yet still indicate what the street
sections will be on the map.
CDD/DeStefano stated that staff will develop
additional language to tie this thought together,
and place it in the Development Standards document,
or where appropriate.
VC/Meyer suggested that the Commission vote again
on the consistency of the Master Plan document to
the General Plan since all five Commissioners are
now present.
The Planning Commission then discussed the issue of
the General Plan and it's revision.
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c/Grothe indicated' that his opposition is not so
much to development in the proposed area, but that
he feels this is not the best Master Plan that has
been proposed.
Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded C/Plunk and
CARRIED to find that the Master Plan document is
consistent with the General Plan under Ordinance
No. 4 (1992), with the following modifications: to
direct staff to compile the Resource Management
Plan with the concept of having all these
references into one document; having a side yard
setback of 5 feet and an unobstructed 10 feet;
creating a staggered formula to vary the front set
back from the property line to the nearest
structure for the purpose of eliminating the
straight run of the units through the streets.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
Plunk, Li, VC/Meyer, and
Chair/Flamenbaum.
Grothe.
None.
None.
VC/Meyer stated that, from a design standpoint, it
is better to provide as many access options as
possible to help incorporate the rest of the
project into the community, therefore, the EIR
should indicated that Larkstone should be put
through.
Hardy Strozier, in response to C/flunk's suggestion
that the Arciero property be conditioned to
indicate, "the secondary access to a public street,
other than through the commercial or through Rapid
view", in order to avoid cut through traffic,
suggested that such a condition may be more
appropriately located in the subdivision tract map
resolution.
Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by
Chair/Flamenbaum and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY that the
EIR documentation should be amended to show
mitigation that Larkstone should be connected.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Plunk, Grothe, Li,
V C/ M e y e r, a n d
Chair/Flamenbaum.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None.
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ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
VC/Meyer stated that he is uncomfortable with the
design submitted by the Sasak,Corporation.
Motion was made by C/Grothe and seconded by C/Li,
to direct staff to work with the applicant for two
weeks to redesign the plan to realign the street
with Shepherd Hills.
Chair/Flamenbaum recessed the meeting at 10:05 p.m.
to allow the applicant time to consider the
request. The meeting was reconvened at 10:15 p.m.
Noting the .late hour of the meeting, C/Grothe
withdrew his motion to allow the applicants of
items 3 & 4 of the agenda to consent to a
continuation. C/Li withdrew his second.
Chair/Flamenbaum declared the Public Hearing opened
for item 3, Variance 93-1, CUP 93-3, and Oak Tree
Permit 93-1.
Jake Williams, the property owner, stated that he
does not object to a continuation, with the
understanding that his matter will be placed first
on the next meeting's agenda.
Motion was made by Chair/Flamenbaum, seconded by
VC/Meyer and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to continue item
3, of the agenda, to the next meeting of May 24,
1993.
j Chair/Flamenbaum declared the Public Hearing opened
for item 4, Amendment to Conditional Use permit 91 -
David Lee, the applicant's brother and
representative, stated that they would prefer that
their matter come before the Planning Commission
tonight.
Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by C/Plunk
and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to continue the matter to
the meeting of May 24, 1993.
VC/Meyer suggested that a member of staff explain
to the applicant that there was a consensus of the
Commission to continue the item.
The Planning Commission then concurred to continue
item 5 of the agenda, the Reorganization of the
Planning Commission, to the meeting of May 24,
1993.
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zz; C/Grothe then restated his motion to direct staff
to work with the applicant for two weeks to
redesign the ,plan to realign the street "B" with
Shepherd Hills.
Mr. Budke, the applicants representative, stated
that they have worked with staff, and the current
design is a product of their recommendation. The
objection to the project, from the Commission,
seems to be arbitrary, as does the recommendation
to reduce the project to 16 lots. There have been
7 different layouts presented before the Commission
showing alternates with lots on Morning Sun, and
alternates with connections at Shepherd Hills. The
design presented tonight fits all of the criteria,
and adequately demonstrates the engineering
problems associated with connecting to Shepherd
Hills. There seems only to be an emotional concern
for those residents on Morning Sun. He then stated
that he was directed by Chair/Flamenbaum to do this
specific layout.
Chair/Flamenbuam stated that he never indicated
that a particular road needed to be aligned in a
particular spot, but that he indicated that he did
not like the 24 foot wide easement, or the
isolation of the tract from the rest of the
community.
C/Plunk reiterated the Commissions desire that the
project be designed to be as considerate to the
existing neighborhood as possible. The other
projects are donating quite a bit in order to do
their subdivisions, and there is plenty of buffer
to the existing neighborhoods.
C/Grothe withdrew his Motion.
Jan Dabney stated that, with the restrictions that
Mr. Patel has on his property, there are hardships
in setting aside available open space. The map
before us this evening is a vast improvement from
what has been presented in the past. Moving the
access road to Shepherd Hills creates a need for
retaining walls which is not within the constraints
of the Master Plan concepts, or the current
approved Hillside ordinance. Perhaps, as an
- alternative, Mr. Patel could be asked to donate
something else to the community in lieu of giving
up any open space.
Motion was made by Chair/Flamenbuam, seconded by
C/Plunk and CARRIED to continue the matter of Tract
Map No. 32576 for two weeks to give staff the
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opportunity to review the map and to make
appropriate recommendations.
ROLL CALL:"
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Plunk, Li, VC/Meyer, and
Chair/Flamenbaum.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Grothe.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
Motion was made by Chair/Flamenbaum, seconded by
VC/Meyer and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to direct staff to
explore the possibility of having a Tree Relocation
Program, to provide 2 inch trees to the community
at a nominal cost, as a mitigation measure for the
removal of the trees from the canyon, and to place
it in the Resource Management Plan and the EIR, if
appropriate.
CDD/DeStefano stated that it is staff's
recommendation that the Commission review the RnP
Tract Map to ensure it's in compliance with the
Master Plan, and to make any suggested changes.
Staff will then fine tune the resolutions, and make
any appropriate grammatical or spelling changes.
VC/Meyer made the following statements: the
findings in support of the EIR documentation should
also indicate "by the recommendation of the
Planning Commission" throughout the entire
document; page 24, item E, should be modified to
include Larkstone; and, if appropriate, include a
condition, on page 2 of Attachment "B", to include
the adjacent Homeowners Association in the
landscaping district if they should happen to
decide to participate in this project with respect
to providing open space.
CDD/DeStefano stated that, if so directed, the City
Engineer and he will look at creating a specific
condition to deal with the issue of the Homeowners
Association. The Planning Commission so directed.
ICE/Wentz pointed out that the boundaries of the
district can always be amended by the City Council
as part of the public hearing process, and, they
can add a secondary district to incorporate their
participation in the overall maintenance of that
area.
CDD/DeStefano, in response to C/Grothe's inquiry as
to the specific percentage of improvements to be
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done by the developer, explained that the developer
will be contributing towards the project as is
listed within the Conditions of Approval within the
Resolutions, and the Development Agreements,
subject to further negotiation between the
developers and the staff, Planning Commission, and
the conclusive comments of the City Council. The
percentages indicated in the Fiscal Impact Report
was done only for study purposes in order to
complete the assignment.
In response to C/Grothe's inquiry regarding the
specific percentage of acreage for commercial land,
CDD/DeStefano stated that there is to be about a 30
to 31 acre commercial center, in which the City's
ownership will be between 10 and 15, which will
ultimately be a business decision of the City
Council. The land use decision before the Planning
Commission is the issue of whether the 30 to 31
commercial center is an appropriate land use.
C/Grothe then made the followings comments: a 3:1
Oak Tree replacement ratio should be indicated in
items #11, #16, #17, & #18, or keep with the bigger
variety of sizes; there should be language
indicating that the developers can place the
quantity of trees on or off site; staff should
explore the possibility of getting the School
District to use contour grading, put proper bench
drains, landscaping, etc. on the hillsides, on the
School District site dropping on to Arciero's
property, and include their property in the
Landscape Maintenance District; and grading for all
three project should be done at one time.
Jan Dabney stated that all the improvements, on the
Arciero site, will be put on at one time. All the
improvements to the commercial and the park site,
can be done by RnP, tying into Larkstone, and then
the remainder of the RnP project to the Sasak
project would also be done all at one time because
of the grading for the hydrolics.
ICE/Wentz indicated that a condition can be
included to indicate that the phases are to be done
all at once.
VC/Meyer suggested that page 3, in the RnP
resolution, under "Grading", include a condition
for bonding. Referring to the final grading plans
as indicated in condition 12, he inquired what
plans have been made if there are major
modifications made after the geological
investigation.
May, 10, 1993 Page 16
ANNOUNCEMENTS: CDD/DeStefano reported that the workshop for the
General Plan revision process is scheduled May 12,
1993. The public hearings on the General Plan
revision begin May 19, 26th and June 2, 1993.
ADJOURNMENT: Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by C/Grothe
and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to adjourn the meeting at
11:20 p.m.
I
Respectively,
ICE/Wentz stated that there is a paragraph on page
four, before item #17, intended to deal with that
particular issue, thaf indicates there could be an
amendment to the lot configurations based upon
their findings. If the proposed finals varied
significantly from the approved tentative the whole
process could be repeated, per the -decision of the
engineer's office.
ICE/Wentz then made the following response to
inquiries made by VC/Meyer: the definition of an
urban pollutant basis, on page 6, is a detention
basin; page 7, item 51, will be addressed by the
Resource Management Plan; the intent of item 55,
page 8, is that the issue of the access out to
Morning Sun and Larkstone may ultimately be
addressed through the City Engineer's office; item
64, page 9, the utilities will be undergrounded as
part of a condition of this tract, and will be
adjacent to this tract on Brea Canyon; page ten,
item 7 should be relocated into the Resource
Management Plan and it should cross reference the
Hillside Management Ordinance which talks about rip
rap, muted tones, etc.; and the intent of item 19,
page 12, is to try to reduce the impact of wildlife
to the surrounding residential area when the
grading begins.
Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by C/Plunk
and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to direct staff to draft
the Resolutions of Approval for RnP and Arciero
tract, responding to the comments and corrections
made.
The Planning commission then concurred to direct
staff to make the Development Agreement consistent
with the current changes.
ANNOUNCEMENTS: CDD/DeStefano reported that the workshop for the
General Plan revision process is scheduled May 12,
1993. The public hearings on the General Plan
revision begin May 19, 26th and June 2, 1993.
ADJOURNMENT: Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by C/Grothe
and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to adjourn the meeting at
11:20 p.m.
I
Respectively,
May, 10, 1993 Page 17
r
JJii- s` DeStefano
Se etary
Attest:
-72
Bruce Flamenbaum
Chairman
CITY OF DIAMOND BAR MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
MAY 10, 1993
CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Flamenbaum called the meeting to order at 7:15 p.m. at the South Coast Air -Quality
Management District Auditorium, 21865 t. CoRkey Drive, Diamond Bar, California.
OF The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by ALLEGIANCE: Chairman Flamenbaum.
ROLL CALL: commissioners: Grothe, Li, Plunk, Vice Chairman Meyer, and Chairman Flamenbaum.
Also present were Community Development Director James DeStefano,
Associate Planner Rob Searcy, Planning Technician Ann Lungu, Deputy City
Attorney Craig Fox, Interim City Engineer George Wentz, and Contract
Recording Secretary Liz Myers.
MATTERS FROM Nick Anis, residing at 1125 Bramford Court, THE AUDIENCE: expressed his concern that
information regarding
Sandstone Canyon and the proposed project was misrepresented. Though he was
told that the canyon was pristine, he stated that, after going into the canyon over
the weekend, he found a substantial amount of trash and rubbish both in the
canyon andin the stream. Furthermore, several firemen had indicated to him 'that
they felt that Sandstone Canyon was the greatest fire risk in Diamond Bar and the
surrounding area. Another misnomer is that there is a deed restriction, yet upon
investigation, there is actually a map restriction.
Chair/Flamenbaum stated that a letter regarding Sandstone Canyon has been
submitted by Mr. Anis.
CONSENT CALENDAR: Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by C/Plunk and CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY to continue the Minutes of April 26, 1993 to the next meeting.
Minutes of Apr. 26,
1993
The Planning commission concurred not to hear any new items after 10:30 p.m.
CONTINUED PUBLIC CDD/DeStefano reported that the South Pointe Master Plan project represents a
comprehensive land use planning effort on approximately 171 acres of primarily
undeveloped land. The proposed project is designed with a combination of
General Plan Amendment 92- residential, recreational, commercial/office, 'open space and educational uses.
2; DA 92-1, 2, and 3; Vesting Approximately 80 residential acres are proposed for construction of
TT Map 51407, CUP 92-8 & approximately 195 single family homes, 31 acres are proposed for a future
OT 92-8; ZC 91-2 & OT 91-2; commercial/office space development adjacent to Brea Canyon Road, 28 acres
TT Map 51253 & CUP 92-12; are proposed for a public park site for both passive and active recreational uses,
OT 92-9; SP Master Plan; & and 31 acres are proposed for the construction of a permanent South Pointe
EIR 92-1 Middle School. The project would be
May, 10 1993 Page 2
ommission has reviewed the Draft Environmental
developed over a, ten year period. The Planning
roval of the General Plan was rescinded in March
f 1993 by the City Council, no action or
onsideration will be undertaken in furtherance of
n amendment to the General Plan. However, the
evelo ment Agreements, Tract Maps, and associated
ermits may roceed with reference to the Draft
eneral Plan pursuant to the provisions of
rdinance No. 4 1992. The Planning Commission
oncluded its April 29th public hearing b
etermining that the South Pointe Master Plan
oning regulations and development standards were
onsistent with the Draft General Plan. Staff was
irected to prepare the appropriate resolutions for
uture Planning Commission consideration. The
lanning Commission will now be in consideration of
he Tentative Tract Maps. As noted within the
outh Pointe Master Plan development standards, the
171 acre site has been divided into five land use
nclaves. Vesting Tentative Tract Map 51407 RnP
nd Tentative Tract No. 51253 Sasak Corporation)
re located within Enclave 1, and Vesting Tentative
ract No. 32400 Arciero & Sons is located within
nclave 3. Each Tentative Tract map has been
esi ned to development standards consistent with
he Master Plan. CDD/DeStefano then reviewed the
hree subdivisionspecific proposals, as indicated
n the staff report., It is staffs recommendation
hat the Planning Commission approve "in concept"
he three proposed subdivisions, and direct staff
o bring back revised resolutions for formal
do tion at the next Planning Commission meeting.
t is further recommended that the Commission
ndertake specific discussion of the Development
reements in order to permit staff to finalize the
ocuments for future adoption. The Development
reement establishes the terms and conditions from
hich the development -can proceed and provides the
3pplicants with assurances based upon their
ommitment to timing and compliance with the
reements. Theagreements incorporate a variety
mitments by all parties
f land transf ers and co
oward the successful completion of the proposed
ro'ect. CDD/DeStefano then stated that the EIR
II be brought back to the commission for final
onsideration as part of the final resolutions for
eview, at the time that the Commission begins to
ome to closure on this specific project to be
orwarded to the City Council. It is recommended
hat the Planning Commission approve the South
May, 10, 1993 Pagdi'3
Pointe Master Plan'development standards and major elements, and that the
Commission take action to approve Vesting Tentative Map No. 51407, Vesting
Tentative Map No. 32400, and Tentative Tract Map No. 51253 with the draft
findings and conditions contained within the attached resolutions, and that the
Commission review the proposed Development Agreements.
VC/Meyer suggested that, since the Sasak Corporation has presented a new
iteration of the Tract Map, they should be allowed an opportunity to present their
new proposal.
Mr. Budke, representing Mr. Patel, reviewed the details of the proposed
subdivision as follows: the recently submitted Tentative Tract Map is now in line
with the city's zoning and ordinances, and meets all the criteria of the Master
Plan; the adjusted 7.05 acre site is currently proposed as 21 single family units;
street 11611 and I'D" is now a through street that goes to Morning Sun, and is 60
feet wide, and there is a short median; the map is a direct result of
recommendations made by some of the Commission members; the average lot
size is 11,821 square feet; the average pad size is 8,096 square feet; the largest
lot, lot #4, has 20,962 square feet; the largest pad, lot #4, has 11,214 square
feet; the smallest lot, lot #20, has 8,056 square feet; the smallest pad, lot #16,
has 6,290 square feet; there is a lot line adjustment being proposed adjacent to
lot #5, #6, & #7, and on the easterly side of lot #12 & #13, as an effort to make
this,a seamless development, which increases the overall density of this project
by 15,300 square feet, and adds 1,750 square feet to the RnP site; the gross
record density, at 6.7 acres, is 3.13 dwelling units per acre, which is almost
exactly what is existing on Morning Sun; the adjusted gross density is 2.98
DU/per acre; the net net density provides an adjusted density of 3.07 DU/acre;
the adjusted layout exports 10,400 less earthwork; there will probably be one
graded contractor for the Master Plan project; and the maximum fill is 44 feet. Mr.
Budke stated that generally, in their opinion, this proposed subdivision is now in
line with the other two projects. They are looking f or approval on this project and
the entire Master Plan.
VC/Meyer inquired if there was consideration made, in the current design
analysis, to connect street 11611 with Shepherd Hill.
may, 10, 1993 Page 4
Mr. Budke pointed out that, -a proposal having -that connection
was presented at the last meeting, however, such a design would
require an easement for sewer and emergency egress access to the
proposed cul-de-sac. This current design is in response to
Chair/Flamenbaum's suggestion that the other proposal not, be
utilized, preferring the alignment now presented.
VC/Meyer suggested that the street can still be aligned with
Shepherd Hill by using the current configuration, and maintaining
the concept of discouraging cut -through traffic through the entire
project. There is an obligation to those residents living on the
Morning Sun cul-de-sac to leave the neighborhood as it is currently,
if at all possible.
Mr. Budke pointed out that, with the current configuration, there are
only five homes along Shepherd Hills and street "All that will be
affected. The only way to redesign it so that none of the homes are
affected is to have a double loaded row of lots, which is detrimental
from a marketing standpoint. It had been suggested by Chair/
Flamenbaum to design it so that there would be a connection right
at Shepherd Hills.
VC/Meyer noted that the current design also has double loaded row
of lots. If it is engineeringly feasible, the design should be modified,
keeping all the utilities and sewer exactly as it is currently shown
through a common easement between lots #1 and #21, but moving
the street to the south. This modification may result in the loss of
one lot, however, it is important to leave the culde-sac as is, without
affecting existing residents.
Mr. Budke stated that, from an engineering standpoint in terms of
the impact on the RnP site, and sewer and drainage, it does not
make sense to connect to Shepherd Hills. our first choice was not to
have a through street regardless.
C/Plunk stated that it would appear that this current design is
attempting to get the most while giving the least. If lots #5, #6, #7,
#12, & #13, which encroach on the RnP property, were removed,
the proposal would be closer to the densities proposed by the other
projects. The other two projects provide more buffer, such as the
school site and the park site, offering relief to the local
neighborhood. However, this project packs in
May,.10, 1993 PZL46 5
more houses right up against the existing neighborhood, offering very little relief.
Mr. Budke pointed out that the density of the project is 21 DU/per acre, which is
less dense than the Arciero project, and very comparable in net net density to
the RnP site.
C/Li explained to Mr. Budke that the Commission is concerned that the proposal
has double loaded row of lots, and that someone else's property must be utilized
in order to substantiate the 21 homes. The other two proposals offer open space
and other amenities, thereby offering relief to the neighborhood.
Mr. Budke stated that this project has met all criteria that has been established.
There is actually room to put as many as 24 lots on the site. There is no room on
this 6.7 acre site to offer a school or a park.
Jan Dabney, in response to Chair/ Flamenbaum, stated that RnP has agreed
upon the lot line adjustment, as long as it does not impact them dramatically, and
that the layout would demonstrate harmony through the Master Plan. There has
not yet been an opportunity to review the actual impact being proposed,
however, we were pleased with the preliminary layout of the plan.
Mr. Budke, in response to VC/Meyer, stated that they have concurred to
construct $18,000 worth of sidewalks, off site, in the existing Morning Sun tract,
only where necessary to get the children to the bus stop.
C/Plunk suggested that there be a condition that approval must be received from
the existing neighborhood prior to constructing curb, gutter, and sidewalks. The
Planning commission concurred.
Jan Dabney, in response to Chair/Flamenbaum, explained that the plan for the
Larkstone interconnection would allow it to be made into an immediate
connection when desired. Two cul-desac's cannot come together because the
bus would have to drive over the curb to get to the parking lot.
C/Grothe requested clarification between the differing calculations as indicated
on page 7, item 2.2, of the Cost Analysis, and page 10, the last
May, 10, 1993 Page 6
bullet. He inquired if condition A is calculated at 10 acres or 15.5 acres.
Hardy Strozier, in response to Chair/Flamenbaum, explained that Arciero's prior
proposal, which was denied by the County, was a totally different concept than
the one being proposed today before the Commission.
AP/Searcy, in response to Chair/Flamenbaum's inquiry regarding last meetings
concern that there was a possible misquote in the letter received from Pacific
Southwest Biological Services, Inc., stated that staff was informed by the firm that
they were not aware of anything in that letter that would be contradicted by
anyone in their office. As of the time of this meeting, there has been no
information from them stating that there would be any retractions.
CDD/DeStefano, in response to VC/Meyer's concern, stated that, though the
Commission cannot take definitive action this evening, it is staff's
recommendation that very specific direction on the maps be given because some
of the mitigation measures in the EIR may need to change as a result of that
specific action. The Subdivision Map Act indicates that the subdivision should be
compatible with the objectives, policies, guidelines, of the general land use and
programs contained in the Master Plan. It is staff Is opinion that all of these maps
are consistent with that charge. Also, the City is currently operating under
Ordinance No. 4 (1992) which permits us to make these recommendations to the
City Council, and to take definitive action on some other the other cases before
the Commission this evening.
Chair/Flamenbaum recessed the meeting at 8:25 p.m. The meeting was
reconvened at 8:45 p.m.
Dale Levandar, the author of the Fiscal Cost Benefit Analysis, stated that they
have concluded that the site is good- for a commercial retail complex, and that in
all three alternatives, the City does not show a negative cash flow. In response to
C/Grothe's earlier question, he explained that there is a typo on page 10, and it
should have read 11 ... based on 8% rate applied to a value of $435,000 dollars
(43,560 square feet per acre computed at $10. 00 per square foot) . 11 , In
addition to the pure economics of the situation, the projections contain some cost
figures which
May, 10, 1993 Pa46 7
over state the'proportionate share. This is a cash flow projection, not a fair share
approach.
In response to C/Li, Dale Levander explained that the analysis shows the cash
flow to the City during the development period, which is 10 years, plus on an
annual basis beyond 10 years. The discounted cash flow assumes an interest
rate of 6 percent. Chair/Flamenbaum declared the Public, Hearing opened.
Tom Van Winkle, a resident, advised the commission to move cautiously on any
portion of the project since the City has no General Plan.
Don Schad, residing at 1824 Shaded Wood, made the following comments: the
EIR should address the mitigation of "Valley Fever" (Coccidioidomycossia) ,
which is caused by the prolong dust associated with the destruction of so much
soil; the EIR is incomplete because the City does not have a compatible Tree
ordinance; destroying 97% of an established area is a significant impact,
contrary to what is stated in the EIR; and there are trees in the canyon that are
between 250 and 500 years old, with no indication that fire occurred.
Barbara Beach Cushane, residing at 2021 Peaceful Hills, stated that the project
not only affects the Morning Sun tract residents, but also the life of the Pathfinder
community- as'well, in a very negative way.
Chuck Bowler, a resident on Morning Sun, pointed out that sidewalks would need
to be constructed on Morning Sun, Shepherd Hill, Chapel Hill, and Tameschaner
because that is the route that the children take to the bus stop. He then
suggested that the homes on Patel—s site face Morning Sun, moving the other
homes over so that there are backyards facing each other rather than one row of
homes with two streets. The road on Morning Sun should be totally eliminated,
and the traffic should be run back to Colima since the subdivision is part of
Diamond Bar and not Walnut.
Vinod Kashyap, a resident, stated that he was under the impression that the
issue of the General Plan has been resolved. He then stated that, in his opinion,
the needs of the entire community should take precedent over the needs of the
Pathfinder community.
May, 10, 1993 Page 8
Norman Beach Cushane, President of the Pathfinder Homeowners Association, stated
that they were promised that.this site was to be 90 acres reserved for parks. He also
stated, in response to a comment made earlier regarding the fire safety of the Canyon,
that there was a fire in the area, but it was in their tract and no one had to be
evacuated.
VC/Meyer, referring to a HOA meeting that was to be held regarding the possible use
of the existing open space areas for public use, inquired what the HOA's position was
on that possibility.
Norman Beach Cushane stated that this issue will be presented to the HOA at
the end of the month when their annual -meeting . is scheduled. There is a
concern, if the land is dedicated for public access to the property, regarding
ownership, liability, and possible development, as is occurring now.
Elizabeth Hodges, a resident, inquired if the
County has given permission to pursue the construction of sidewalks since it is
County property because it was her impression that the County Department of
Transportation wrote strongly opposing a road being put on through Morning Sun, as
is indicated in the Response to Comment section of the EIR.
Hearing no further testimony, the Public Hearing was declared closed.
Jan Dabney, in response to Chair/Flamenbaum's inquiry, stated that as long as any
liability issues are resolved, they would not see a problem with potting the 2 inch oak
trees to be removed and relocated to offer them to the community.
Chair/Flamenbaum suggested that the commission proceed as has been
recommended by staff.
the April 29th meeting and feels that he understands what went on. He suggested
that, if the review process is to be taken in a linear progression, the Commission
should first revisit concerns on any issues in the tIR, in order to get closure on it.
Furthermore, since the straw vote, from the last meeting, on General Plan
consistency, was only a 2-1-1 vote, the Commission should perhaps revisit that
issue as well. If there is not a consensus on the Master Plan issuel then there is no
need to go through conditions of
May, 10, 1993 Page 9
approval of a tentative tract map -and a development agreement, and the project
should be recommended to the City Council for denial.
The Planning Commission concurred to revisit issues of concern in the EIR.
VC/Meyer stated that he does not concur with the findings in the EIR that the
replacement of Oak Trees at a 2:1 ratio sufficiently mitigates covering up 97% of
the -trees to a level of nonsignificance.
Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by C/Plunk and CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY to direct staff to prepare overriding considerations on the
removal of the trees.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Grothe, Plunk, Li, V C/ M e y e r, a n d
Chair/Flamenbaum.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None. ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None. ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
VC/Meyer stated that he would prefer that the Resource Management Plan also
deal with the landscaping concepts, such as statements about the road, the
architectural statement to be made to the medians, the architectural statement
with the landscaping of the commercial facilities entry, hillside grading, etc., and
to specifically locate that information in one location.
CDD/DeStefano, noting that the material desired is already within the documents
reviewed by the Commission, suggested that a specific section be' added called,
"Resource Management Plan" within the Master Plan's zoning regulations and
development standards that would deal with all of these issuest or indicate where the
information can be found. Also, the conditions recommended for approval can be
grouped into a section within each resolution called "Resource Management Plan" which
will make that specific issue more clear to the reviewing individual or agency in the
future that will help implement the project.
C/Grothe stated that he feels that the areas of contour grading, bench drains, and
landscaping should by taken directly out of the Hillside Management Ordinance and
placed in the conditions.
May, 10, 1993 Page 10
The Planning Commission concurred information in the to place such the
resolutions for tract maps. specific
CDD/DeStefano stated that staff will also add much more of the detail of the
Hillside Ordinance, along with the conditions fluent through all the other
documents, and group,them into one section such as the "Resource Management
Plan".
VC/Meyer, concerned that there can be obstructions that reduce the clearance at
the side yards, suggested that the side yard set back be modified to a minimum
of 5 feet and 12 feet to guarantee access to the rear yard. Alsoj the front yard set
back can be determined based upon if the garage faces the street or if it is
perpendicular to the street, so that the homes are staggered for aesthetic
purposes.
Jan Dabney stated that the intent of the 5 foot and 10 foot side yard set back was
to provide the homeowners access to use their rear yards. If the Commission
desires 10 feet at the side yard setback then it could be stated as 1110 foot
unobstructed", which is measured from the closest obstruction, rather than
distance.
C/Grothe stated that he would prefer that the conditions spell out exactly what
the engineers standards are in , regards to the street cross sections, sidewalks,
landscaping, etc.
ICE/Wentz'stated that those conditions are normally tied into the tract map, and, if
desired, that detail can be specified as part of the condition, but doing so can
restrain us somewhat if we change our minds for engineering reasons. It was lef t
with enough discretion at this time to give flexibility, yet still indicate what the street
sections will be on the map.
CDD/DeStefano stated that staff will develop additional language to tie this thought
together, and place it in the Development Standards document, or where
appropriate.
VC/Meyer suggested that the Commission vote again on the consistency of the
Master Plan document to the General Plan since all five Commissioners are now
present.
The Planning Commission then discussed the issue of the General Plan and it's
Wvr
May, 10, 1993 Page 11
C/Grothe indicated' that his opposition is not so much to development in the
proposed area, but that he feels this is not the best Master Plan that has been
proposed.
Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded C/Plunk and CARRIED to f ind that
the Master Plan document is consistent with the General Plan under Ordinance
No. 4 (1992), with the following modifications: to direct staff to compile the
Resource Management Plan with the concept of having all these references into
one document; having a side yard setback of 5 feet and an unobstructed 10 feet;
creating a staggered formula to vary the front set back from the property line to
the nearest structure for the purpose of eliminating the straight run of the units
through the streets.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Plunk, Li, VC/Meyer, and
Chair/Flamenbaum. Grothe.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None. None.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS:
VC/Meyer stated that, from a design standpoint, it is better to provide as many
access options as possible to help incorporate the rest of the project into the
community, therefore, the EIR should indicated that Larkstone should be put
through.
Hardy Strozier, in response to C/Plunk's suggestion that the Arciero property be
conditioned to indicate, "the secondary access to a public street, other than
through the commercial or through Rapid View", in order to avoid cut through
traffic, suggested that such a condition may be more appropriately located in the
subdivision tract map resolution.
Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by Chair/ Flamenbaum and CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY that the EIR documentation should be amended to show
mitigation that Larkstone should be connected.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Plunk, Grothe, Li, V C/ M e y e r a n d
Chair/Flamenbaum.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None. ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None.
May, 10, 1993 Page 12 COMMISSIONERS:
None.
ABSENT:
VC/Meyer stated that he is uncomfortable with the design submitted by the
Sasak,Corporation.
Motion was made by C/Grothe and seconded by C/Li, to direct staff to work with
the applicant for two weeks to redesign the plan to realign the street with
Shepherd Hills.
Chair/ Flamenbaum recessed the meeting at 10:05 p.m. to allow the applicant
time to consider the request. The meeting was reconvened at 10:15 p.m.
Noting the late hour of the meeting, C/Grothe withdrew his motion to allow the
applicants of items 3 & 4 of the agenda to consent to a continuation. C/Li
withdrew his second.
Chair/ Flamenbaum declared the Public Hearing opened for item 3, Variance 93-1,
CUP 93-31 and Oak Tree Permit 93-1.
Jake Williams, the property owner, stated that he does not object to a continuation,
with the understanding that his -matter will be placed first on the next meeting's
agenda.
Motion was made by Chair/ Flamenbaum, seconded by VC/Meyer and CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY to continue item 3, of the agenda, to the next meeting of May 24,
1993.
Chair/ Flamenbaum declared the Public Hearing opened for item 4, Amendment to
Conditional Use permit 918.
David Lee, the applicant's brother and representative, stated that they would prefer that
their matter come before the Planning Commission tonight.
Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by C/Plunk and CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY to continue the matter to the meeting of May 24, 1993.
VC/Meyer suggested that a member of staff explain to the applicant that there was a
consensus of the Commission to continue the item.
The Planning Commission then concurred to continue item 5 of the agenda, the
Reorganization of the Planning Commission, to the meeting of May 24, 1993.
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C/Grothe then restated his motion to direct staff to work with the applicant for two
weeks to redesign the plan to realign the street "B" with Shepherd Hills.
Mr. Budke, the applicants representative, stated that they have worked with staff,
and the current design is a product of their recommendation. The objection to
the project, from the Commission, seems to be arbitrary, as does the
recommendation to reduce the project to 16 lots. There have been 7 different
layouts presented before the Commission showing alternates with lots on
Morning Sun, and alternates with connections at Shepherd Hills. The design
presented tonight fits all of the criteria, and adequately demonstrates the
engineering problems associated with connecting to Shepherd Hills. There
seems only to be an emotional concern for those residents on Morning Sun. He
then stated that he was directed by Chair/Flamenbaum to do this specific layout.
Chair/Flamenbuam stated that he never indic'ated that a particular road needed
to be aligned in a particular spot, but that he indicated that he did not like the 24
foot wide easementf or the isolation of the tract from the rest of the community.
C/Plunk reiterated the Commissions desire that the project be designed to be as
considerate to the existing neighborhood as possible. The other projects are
donating quite a bit in order to do their subdivisions, and there is plenty of buffer
to the existing neighborhoods.
C/Grothe withdrew his Motion.
Jan Dabney stated that, with the restrictions that Mr. Patel has on his property, there are
hardships in setting aside available open space. The map before us this evening is a
vast improvement from what has been presented in the past. Moving the access road to
Shepherd Hills creates a need for retaining walls which is not within the constraints of
the Master Plan concepts, or the current approved Hillside Ordinance. Perhaps, as an
alternative, Mr. Patel could be asked to donate something else to the community in lieu
of giving up any open space.
Motion was made by Chair/Flamenbuam, seconded by C/Plunk and CARRIED to
continue the matter of Tract Map No. 32576 for two weeks to give staff the
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opportunity to review the map and to make appropriate recommendations.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Plunk, Li, VC/Meyer, and Chair/Flamenbaum.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Grothe. ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None. ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
Motion was made by Chair/Flamenbaum, seconded by VC/Meyer and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to direct staff to explore
the possibility of having a Tree Relocation Program, to provide 2 inch trees to the
community at a nominal cost., as a mitigation measure for the removal of the
trees from the canyon, and to place it in the Resource Management Plan and the
EI R, if appropriate.
CDD/DeStefano stated that it is staff's recommendation that the Commission
review the RnP Tract Map to ensure it's in compliance with the Master Plan, and
to make any suggested changes. Staff will then fine tune the resolutions, and
make any appropriate grammatical or spelling changes.
VC/Meyer made the following statements: the findings in support of the EIR
documentation should also indicate "by the recommendation of the Planning
commission" throughout the entire document; page 24, item E, should be
modified to include Larkstone; and, if appropriate, include a condition, on page 2
of Attachment "B", to include the adjacent Homeowners Association in the
landscaping district if they should happen to decide to participate in this project
with respect to providing open space.
CDD/DeStefano stated that, if so directed, the City Engineer and he will look at
creating a specific condition to deal with the issue of the Homeowners
Association. The Planning Commission so directed.
ICE/Wentz pointed out that the boundaries of the district can always be amended
by the city council as part of the public hearing process, and, they can add a
secondary district to incorporate their participation in the overall maintenance of
that area.
CDD/DeStefano, in response to C/Grothe's inquiry as to the specific percentage of
improvements to be
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done by the developer, explained that the developer will be contributing towards
the project as is listed within the Conditions of Approval within the Resolutions,
and the Development Agreements, subject to further negotiation between the
developers and the staff, Planning Commission, and the conclusive comments of
the City Council. The percentages indicated in the Fiscal Impact Report was
done only for study purposes in order to complete the assignment.
In response to C/Grothels- inquiry regarding the specific percentage of acreage
for commercial land, CDD/DeStefano stated that there is to be about a 30 to 31
acre commercial center, in which the City's ownership will be between 10 and 15,
which will ultimately be a business decision of the City council. The land use
decision before the Planning commission is the issue of whether the 30 to 31
commercial center is an appropriate land use.
C/Grothe then made the followings comments: a 3:1 Oak Tree replacement ratio
should be indicated in items #11, #16, #17, & #18, or keep with the bigger variety
of sizes; there should be language indicating that the developers can place the
quantity of trees on or off site; staff should explore the possibility of getting the
School District to use contour grading, put proper bench drains, landscaping, etc.
on the hillsides, on the School District site dropping on to Arciero's property, and
include their property in the Landscape Maintenance District; and grading for all
three project should be done at one time.
Jan Dabney stated that all the improvements, on the Arciero site, will be put on
at one time. All the improvements to the commercial and the park site, can be
done by RnP, tying into Larkstone, and then the remainder of the RnP project to
the Sasak project would also be done all at one time because of the grading for
the hydrolics.
ICE/Wentz indicated that a condition can be included to indicate that the phases
are to be done all at once.
VC/Meyer suggested that page 3, in the RnP resolution, under "Grading", include
a condition for bonding. Referring to the final grading plans as indicated in
condition 12, he inquired what plans have been made if there are major
modifications made after the geological investigation.
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ICE/Wentz stated that there is a paragraph on page four, before item #17,
intended to deal with that particular issue, that indicates there could be an
amendment to the lot configurations based upon their findings. If the proposed
finals varied significantly from the approved tentative the whole process could be
repeated, per the decision of the engineer's office.
ICE/Wentz then made the following response to inquiries -made by VC/Meyer:
the definition of an urban pollutant basis, on page 6, is a detention basin; page 7,
item 51, will be addressed by the Resource Management Plan; the intent of item
55, page 8, is that the issue of the access out to Morning Sun and Larkstone may
ultimately be addressed through the City Engineer's office; item 64, page 9, the
utilities will be undergrounded as part of a condition of this tract, and will be
adjacent to this tract on Brea Canyon; page ten, item 7 should be relocated into
the Resource Management Plan and it should cross reference the Hillside
Management Ordinance which talks about rip rap, muted tones, etc.; and the
intent of item 19, page 12, is to try to reduce the impact of wildlife to the
surrounding residential area when the grading begins.
Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by C/Plunk and CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY to direct staff to draft the Resolutions of Approval for RnP and
Arciero tract, responding to the comments and corrections made.
The Planning Commission then concurred to direct staff to make the
Development Agreement consistent with the current changes.
ANNOUNCEMENTS: CDD/DeStefano reported that the workshop for the General Plan revision process is
scheduled May 12, 1993. The public hearings on the General Plan revision begin
May 19, 26th and June 2, 1993.
ADJOURNMENT: Motion was made by VC/Meyer, seconded by C/Grothe and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to
adjourn the meeting at 11:20 p.m.
Respectively,
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Dc Jams Stefano Ole
Attest Bruce Flamenbaum
Chairman