HomeMy WebLinkAbout6/22/1992PUBLIC HEARING: PT/Lungu presented the staff report regarding a
request, from applicant William A. Stiegler, for a
Variance Variance to approve an existing six (6) foot high
No. 92-1 wrought iron fence with pilasters within the twenty
(20) foot front yard setback, over the allowable
height of forty-two (42) inches. The proposed
project is located within "The Country" at 2621
Indian Creek Road (Lot 8, Tract 23483). There are
three issues that need to be addressed pertaining
to this project. The first issue concerns the fact
that the existing fence has been constructed within
the twenty (20) foot front yard setback and exceeds
a height of forty two (42) inches. The second
issue is determining if it was necessary to
construct the fencing as it exists or if it could
have been placed behind the twenty (20) foot front
yard setback. The third issue is determining
whether the fencing is aesthetically compatible
with the area. Staff recommended that the Planning
Commission approve Variance No. 92-1 with the
following conditions and Findings of Fact attached
to the staff report.
C/Meyer inquired why this particular project is
before the Commission since there are other such
similar fences located in "The Country".
PT/Lungu explained that it began as a code
enforcement issue. It is before the Commission as
a request for a Variance to permit modification of
the development standards because the topography of
the site makes it difficult to enforce the Code
setback and height requirements.
CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 22, 1992
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Flamenbaum called the meeting to order at
7:05 p.m. at the South Coast Air Quality Management
District Auditorium, 21865 E. Copley Drive, Diamond
Bar, California.
PLEDGE OF
The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by
ALLEGIANCE:
the Community Development Director James DeStefano.
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners: Meyer, Li, Grothe, and Chairman
Flamenbaum. Vice Chairman MacBride
was absent (excused).
Also present were Community Development Director
James DeStefano, Associate Planner Robert Searcy,
Planning Technician Ann Lungu, Deputy City Attorney
Bill Curley, and Contract Secretary Liz Myers.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Motion was made by C/Meyer, seconded by C/Grothe
and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to approve the Minutes of
Minutes of May
May 26, 1992, the Minutes of May 28, 1992, and the
26, May 28,
Minutes of June 8, 1992, as presented.
& June 8, 1992
PUBLIC HEARING: PT/Lungu presented the staff report regarding a
request, from applicant William A. Stiegler, for a
Variance Variance to approve an existing six (6) foot high
No. 92-1 wrought iron fence with pilasters within the twenty
(20) foot front yard setback, over the allowable
height of forty-two (42) inches. The proposed
project is located within "The Country" at 2621
Indian Creek Road (Lot 8, Tract 23483). There are
three issues that need to be addressed pertaining
to this project. The first issue concerns the fact
that the existing fence has been constructed within
the twenty (20) foot front yard setback and exceeds
a height of forty two (42) inches. The second
issue is determining if it was necessary to
construct the fencing as it exists or if it could
have been placed behind the twenty (20) foot front
yard setback. The third issue is determining
whether the fencing is aesthetically compatible
with the area. Staff recommended that the Planning
Commission approve Variance No. 92-1 with the
following conditions and Findings of Fact attached
to the staff report.
C/Meyer inquired why this particular project is
before the Commission since there are other such
similar fences located in "The Country".
PT/Lungu explained that it began as a code
enforcement issue. It is before the Commission as
a request for a Variance to permit modification of
the development standards because the topography of
the site makes it difficult to enforce the Code
setback and height requirements.
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C/Meyer inquired if the City issues building
permits for fences.
PT/Lungu stated that building permits are not
issued for fences six (6) feet or less, and it is
not a retaining wall.
William Stiegler, residing at 8724 E. Garvey Ave.,
Rosemead, the applicant, stated that this matter
was brought up because of an inspector, who was in
the area regarding an unrelated matter, noted the
fence. Mr. Stiegler submitted an affidavit, from
two neighbors across the street from the indicated
property,stating that they are in favor of the
fence. He explained that the fence has been
installed for approximately one year.
The Public Hearing was declared opened.
The Public Hearing was declared closed.
C/Grothe indicated that, though the fence is
aesthetically suitable, he does not feel a variance
should be granted for a fence that is too tall, too
close to the street, and does not conform to the
zoning code. He suggested that there needs to be
modification to the development code.
C/Meyer stated that this type of fencing occurs in
that community, is consistent with the development
standards of that community, is acceptable to the
neighbors, and only violates a set of development
standards that may no longer be applicable to that
area. Instead of looking at it as an exception,
perhaps the development standards should be
reviewed. He recommended that the request be
continued, and staff be directed to develop some
sort of development standards, either through a
conditional use permit, or a modification of the
development standards for large lot subdivisions,
which would allow' this development in certain
circumstances. The variance is the wrong tool for
this project.
C/Li concurred that the variance is an improper
tool. All fencing that violates the development
standards should be before the Commission, not just
one. He suggested that there should be a timeline
to determine at what point our standards come into
effect.
CD/DeStefano explained that code enforcement in
Diamond Bar is limited and works on a reactive
basis. -If this case is a result of some sort of
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code enforcement activity, then we are obligated,
by the code, to get the proper permits. Staff
feels it is a righteous variance in terms of it
being a hardship for the applicant, the topography
of the site, and the safety issues. Staff
recommended that the Commission approve the
variance, eliminating the hardship for this
particular applicant, and then direct staff to
prepare a code amendment to bring back to the
Commission for consideration at the earliest date.
C/Meyer inquired how long it would take for staff
to develop new standards. He further inquired if
the present standards are antiquated as they're
applied to this particular zoning character.
CD/De5tefano responded that the standards are
antiquated in terms of their application to
hillside properties. It will probably take staff
six to eight weeks to gather up information from
other hillside communities with similar
circumstances, see how they are addressing the
problem, and then develop an ordinance, for the
Commissions consideration, that meets the desires
of our community. Staff recommends that the
variance approach is the appropriate tool for this
specific application. However, in terms of dealing
with the more broadly based issue, a change in code
is warranted.
Motion was made by C/Meyer, seconded by
Chair/ F lamenbaum and CARRIED to approve Variance
92-1.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: M e y e r, L i, a n d
Chair/Flamenbaum.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Grothe.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: VC/MacBride.
Chair/Flamenbaum, upon the concurrence of the
Commission, directed staff to prepare a code
amendment, to be brought back to the Commission for
consideration within 60 days.
CONTINUED Chair/Flamenbaum suggested that the Planning
PUBLIC HEARING: Commission may first wish to begin discussion on
the Zone Change issue.
r-, TT Map No. 50519/
DA No. 91-3/ C/Meyer stated that since it is a comprehensive
E DR No. 91-2/ project, perhaps the information submitted on the
Zone Change 91-1 entire project should be discussed, and then the
actions dealt with incrementally. The Commission
concurred.
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AP/Searcy presented the staff report regarding the
request from the applicant, Diamond Development
Company, to subdivide a 2.3 acre site, located at
23575 Golden Springs, into six (6) lots, to
construct an 80 unit Senior citizen project, to
change the zone classification from C-1 (Restricted
Business) to Zone R-4 (Unlimited Residence), and to
enter into a Development Agreement with the City.
He thoroughly reviewed the Application Analysis, as
indicated in the staff report. It is recommended
that the Planning Commission discuss the project,
and direct staff on issues and project specifics.
Staff is supportive of multi -family residential
development at this location as well as senior
citizen housing as a specific land use. It is an
appropriate transitional use for this land. Staff
recommended that the development agreement,
incorporating the appropriate density bonus, be
drafted. However, staff can not support the
massive reduction in parking and potential problems
with the internal circulation within the parking
structure as proposed by the applicant.
Chair/Flamenbaum inquired if the traffic report has
been reviewed by the Traffic and Transportation
Commission (TTC).
AP/Searcy stated that it is staff's understanding
that the project went before the TTC nearly one
year ago.
Chair/Flamenbaum, noting that the project presented
today has been revised from the one reviewed by the
TTC a year ago, suggested that it would be
appropriate to allow the TTG to review it again.
AP/Searcy informed the Commission that a
representative of Alfred Gobar and Associates is
available to discuss the Impact Analysis, if the
Commission so desires.
Al Marshall, residing at 4400 MacAurther Blvd.,
Newport Beach, representing Dr. Crowley, discussed
the need to provide for senior housing in Diamond
Bar. He made the following comments: many seniors
are looking for an alternative to their current
lifestyles, and desire to continue to live within
their community, on a fixed income; there is a hand
by hand cooperation, of City and private
enterprise, to keep housing affordable, usually in
the form of density bonuses; this project is
proposed in the $100,000 to the $160,000 range,
which allow seniors to sell their current home,
live on their fixed income, put additional fund
June 22, 1992 Page 5
money in bank, and continue to own their homes; the
parking ratio of this project is far greater than
the other 800 units he has developed, none of which
had a higher parking ratio of 1.08:1; there is a
sufficient number of guest parking outside of the
project; since the average age of the buyer is 72
years old, the ratio of cars actually owned is
considerable below the 1.08:1 ratio; and the design
of the project fits well in the surrounding area.
Chair/Flamenbaum informed Mr. Marshall that two of
the Commissioners present have never heard a
presentation on this project.
Al Marshall continued his presentation and made the
following comments regarding the proposed project:
it is 80 units consisting of 2 and 3 stories over
the parking structure, and 2 and 3 stories on grade
at the front; there will be 10 two bedroom units,
and 6 one bedroom units per building; the parking
and complex is secured; the homeowners association
will participate in running the recreational
A facility; the age restriction is geared
specifically for adults; the majority of the
purchasers are, in most cases, elderly single
L_ women; the number of parking spaces need only be
tied to the number of units, not bedrooms, because
seniors don't usually expand their family unit; and
it is 35 feet above grade.
C/Meyer stated that the Planning Commission has
already recommended, in the Land Use Element, that
this land be used for multi -family residential
zoning at 16DU/acre. Noting that the density bonus
is based on the availability of the units to low
and moderate income, he inquired if an individual
with a low to moderate income of $26,000/year can
afford to buy these units at $100,000 to $160,000.
Al Marshall stated that the density bonus is not
necessarily tied to just the income level, but the
restrictions on the property are taken in to
consideration as well.
Al Marshall made the following responses to
C/Meyer's inquiries: there is a lot of concrete,
however, the deck above will be landscaped with a
lot of planters; the biggest units are the best
sellers whereas the den is used as a study, and the
extra bedroom for visiting children; everything is
fully accessible, with stairways and 4 elevators;
the age is restricted through the CC&R's, the land
covenant, conditioned by the Conditional Use
Permit, and other trigger mechanisms that can be
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put in place; proof of age will be required to
purchase; one companion is allowed to occupy the
units that is at least 45 years of age; children
can only visit for a certain total number of
overnight stays per year, controlled by the HOA;
deciduous screening material will be used to
visually obscure the southwesterly portion of the
site from the existing single family residences;
and a shadow analysis was not conducted on this
site.
C/Li advised the applicant to enter into this
development carefully because the seniors must be
considered and taken care of.
C/Grothe indicated that he has various concerns on
the project in general. However, at this point, he
stated that he is very that he has not
concerned
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yet received the elevation view of that project, as
to how the project fits into Diamond Bar Blvd. and
Torito Lane, and to the surrounding resident, as he
€ has requested numerous times.
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Chair/Flamenbaum, in regards to page 8, in the
Summary and Conclusions of the Fiscal Impact
report, inquired how it was concluded that retail
development of the site will result in a negligible
net increase in retail sales tax revenues received
by the City.
Olance Gadreen, with Alfred Gobar Associates,
located at 721 Kimberly Ave., Placentia, stated
that the specifics supporting that statement is
located on page 17 and IS of the report. Following
his summary of the Fiscal Impact Analysis, he
explained that if Diamond Bar limits retail
development to the 2.3 acres available on this
site, the City will get another duplication of the
convenience oriented type of retail operations,
which is already in over supply.
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Chair/Flamenbaum stated that he does not concur
with the sudden transition that if the City
develops 2.3 acres of retail, the City will see a
negligible increase in retail sales tax.
Chair/Flamenbaum recessed the meeting at 8:43 p.m.
The meeting was reconvened at 9:00 p.m.
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The Public Hearing was declared opened.
Red Calkins, residing at 240 Eaglenest Dr., stated
that at the time that he moved to Diamond Bar, it
was supposed to be a village type cluster of homes.
June 22, 1992 Page 7
He inquired if a traffic study was conducted. He
noted that Diamond Bar is over run by office
vacancies as it is.
Don Gravdahl, residing at 23988 Minnequa, made the
following comments: much of the lack of audience
may be due to the fact that the project has been
continued so often; there is not adequate available
parking spaces; a change of ownership could
generate more cars than first anticipated; 55 year
olds and 45 year olds often have more than one
vehicle; the TTC often review problems in which
residential areas are being impacted by the lack of
parking spaces in office buildings; and the effects
of these tall buildings on Diamond Bar should be
considered.
The Public Hearing was declared closed, to be
continued to a meeting yet to be determined.
C/Grothe stated that, though he is not opposed to a
zone change, he does not see any reason to continue
a project that is so far out of conformance.
C/Li stated that, though he is not opposed to the
project, he has a lot of doubts regarding the
density of the project, and would concur to
continue the matter.
C/Meyer made the following comments: density
bonuses does have a direct relationship to the
provision of units to low and moderate income, and
if the project does exceed the 37 dwelling units,
then some provision should be made for low to
moderate incomes; the TTC should review the site,
and the issues relative to on -street parking; on
site parking should be commensurate with the size
of the units and the number of bedrooms; there
needs to be a redesign of the project to provide
easy access to these units; the elderly are not
usually attracted to subterranean parking, and it
should be redesigned; the plans should show above
grade landscaping above the subterranean parking;
there needs to be an analysis of the potential
impacts on the surrounding land uses; on site
circulation plan is difficult to maneuver; the
visitor parking will probably be used by the
residents; the lot coverage is contrary to a lot of
the concepts, dealt with in the General Plan
review, regarding design standards, softening glare
of hardscape with landscaping efforts, reducing the
amount of impervious materials, etc.; the
recreational amenities are minimal and should be
redesigned to be the focal point to encourage group
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type of activities; this development should comply
with the rest of the standards we would apply to
other condominium developments in the community;
the trash areas are inadequate; a public transit
facility should be made to provide use; an analysis
should be made of the site, it's impact of each of
the buildings internally, and external to the
project, to include a shades analysis; and an
Environmental Analysis should be done.
Motion was made by C/Grothe and seconded by C/Meyer
to deny the project, as submitted.
C/Grothe concurred with the statements made by
C/Meyer, and added that the number and size of the
parking spaces need to be increased, and there
should be recreational amenities for guests. He
recommended denying the project, and advising the
applicant to resubmit a redesign of the project, as
a new application.
Chair/Flamenbaum indicated that if the application
is denied, the applicant should be given
groundrules as to what he should expect if he
chooses to resubmit. j
C/Grothe indicated that this project is
fundamentally the same project that has been
proposed for a year now, with the exception of the
senior citizen housing. He stated that his
direction to the applicant would be to go back and
design the project to meet the code, the design
review, and the General Plan.
Chair/Flamenbaum inquired of the applicant if they
are in a position to work with staff to develop a
project that the Commission feels would be more
appropriate for Diamond Bar.
Al Marshall requested the opportunity to study the
project, and give it further consideration, given
the concerns expressed by the Commission.
The Planning Commission voted upon C/Grothe's
motion to deny the project, as submitted.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Grothe.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: M e y e r, L i, a n d,
Chair/Flamenbaum.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None._
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: VC/MacBride.
The Motion FAILED.
June 22, 1992 Page 9
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C/Meyer asked if the applicant_ is willing to waive
the time restrictions for the Tentative Tact Map.
Al Marshall stated that the applicant is in
concurrence to waive the time restrictions on the
Tentative Tract Map.
C/Grothe requested that the application first go
before the TTC for review before coming to the
Planning Commission.
Motion was made by C/Meyer, seconded by C/Li and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to continue the matter to the
meeting of August 10, 1992.
The Commission stated more concerns regarding the
proposed project: the size of the parking stalls
need to be increased; there needs to be additional
guest recreation amenities, especially for
children; there should be sprinklers in the garage
of the community building; and there should be a
further explanation as to why this site should not
be retail space, as indicated in the Fiscal Impact
report.
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Chair/Flamenbaum noted that the letter received
from the Pomona Unified School District, expressing
a concern that the schools could not adequately
handle more enrollment, was written before the
project was proposed as a Senior Citizen complex.
The Commission then discussed the need to renotice
this project. The project has already been noticed
four times. However, because there is going to be
a 60 day lapse before the next hearing, the
Commission concurred to renotice the project.
C/Grothe suggested that noticing, in general,
should come up as a Commission item to determine
how to adequately notice all of the projects.
ANNOUNCEMENTS: CD/DeStefano reported that the City has hired
George Wentz, with the firm of Abbot & Associates,
Staff as Interim City Engineer. He further reported that
the City Council has tentatively approved the Plan
for Public Health and Safety; as well as the Plan
for Public Services and Facilities. Also, the
video tapes on the Tres Hermanos presentation is
available if anyone would like to view them.
Commissioners C/Meyer requested staff to place, on the agenda, a
discussion regarding the provisions of the zoning
ordinance, with respect to set backs of swimming
pools, with respect to main and accessory
June 22, 1992 Page 10
buildings. He would like staff to confer with the�1'����I
City Attorney to see if there is a way to clarify
the definition, either by policy, or potential
modification of that definition by whatever means
necessary. The Commission concurred.
ADJOURNMENT: Motion was made by C/Grothe, seconded by
Chair/Flamenbaum and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to adjourn
the meeting at 10:00 p.m.
Respectively, n
Jame eStefano
Secretary I
Attest:
Bruce Flamenbaum
Chairman