HomeMy WebLinkAbout2/10/1992CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 10, 1992
CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Grothe called the meeting to order at 7:05
p.m. in the South Coast Air Quality Management
l>, District Board Meeting Room, 21865 E. Copley Drive,
Diamond Bar, California.
PLEDGE OF The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by
ALLEGIANCE: Mr. Porter.
ROLL CALL: Commissioner Harmony, Commissioner Schey, Vice
Chairman MacBride, and Chairman Grothe.
Commissioner Flamenbaum was absent.
Also present were Community Director James
DeStefano, Associate Planner Robert Searcy,
Planning Technician Ann Lungu, City Engineer Sid
Mousavi, Deputy City Attorney Bill Curley, and
Contract Secretary Liz Myers.
MATTERS FROM Dennis Hernandez, from the Walnut Valley Water
THE AUDIENCE: District, addressed the Commission regarding the
Water Shortage Contingency Plan, mandated by
Assembly Bill 11X, requiring that Water Agencies
prepare a plan providing a form of action that can
be taken if the drought continues. The content of
the plan include both demands, on the water system,
as well as supply. He reviewed the contents of the
plan with the Commission.
Mr. Hernandez, in response to Chair/Grothe's
inquiry, explained that MWD is calculating the
requested 30% reduction in water use from the base
year of 1989/90.
In response to a series of inquiries from
VC/MacBride, Mr. Herdandez made the following
explanations regarding the memorandum (an executive
summary of the water problem), dated January 30th,
that was submitted to the Commission: the
population forecast in figure 1-1, is based on the
recent census, in Diamond Bar, including a one to
two percent population increase per year; figure 1-
2 is a history of the number of acre feet purchased
since 1961, the number of the consumers in the
district prior to 1978, and the combined total of
consumers; the dark portion in figure 1-2 could
more appropriately be labeled Diamond Bar Water
Company consumers; figure 1-2 will be adjusted to
properly indicate that the current condition, now
labeled Walnut Consumers, be labeled Diamond
Bar/Walnut Consumers; the expected 2% rate increase
on the demands on reclaimed water, as indicated on
page 2-1, will probably increase more than the 2%
over the next few years, however, until there is
additional sources of supply, the increase in the
reclaimed system will probably be somewhat minor;
the construction of a major transmission pipeline
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Mr. Hernandez explained that the Pomona Water
Reclamation Plant, supplying reclaimed water at
this point in time, is not able to meet the demand
during the summertime. There is another treatment
plant, located around the 605/60 freeways, that has
sufficient capacity available. However, there's a
major cost in transporting that water back up to
the district area.
Mr. Hernandez, responding to C/Harmony's inquiry,
stated that he does not have all the figures to
determine the cost of bringing water from the Rio
Hondo treatment facility. In regards to being able
to tap into the proposed Tres Hermans Ranch
recycled water system, he indicated that, as more
plans become available, all alternatives will be
considered.
CD/DeStefano thanked Mr. Hernandez for attending
the meeting and providing the Commission with a
synopsis of the Water Shortage Contingency Plan.
He inquired which treatment facility would the
water come from for the reclaimed water lake
proposed at the Tres Hermanos Ranch.
Mr. Hernandez indicated that he has not yet seen
any plans. However, he would presume that most of
it would probably come from the 605/60 freeway.
CD/DeStefano announced that there was an error in
the public hearing notification for architectural
review of 3 single family homes located at 2638
S1aze,Trail, 22105 Rim Fire Lane, and 23624 Falcons
View Dr. Staff has readvertized the projects, for
staff architectural review, for the meeting of
February 24, 1992.
C/Harmony requested the Minutes of January 27, 1992
be amended on page 2, third paragraph, to add
a
will be running through the'streets of Grand Ave.
and Padillo, in the Covina area, tying into the
Metropolitan's middle feeder, to terminate at the
terminal storage site; the pipeline will be about
five miles long, with the largest diameter being 51
inch; the construction of the pipeline is due to
start in the summertime and last about a year; and
traffic concerns regarding the construction has
been satisfactorily alleviated.
C/Schey inquired if there is some means of
expanding the supply of reclaimed water, thereby
allowing the expansion of the use of reclaimed
water for nonpotable purposes.
Mr. Hernandez explained that the Pomona Water
Reclamation Plant, supplying reclaimed water at
this point in time, is not able to meet the demand
during the summertime. There is another treatment
plant, located around the 605/60 freeways, that has
sufficient capacity available. However, there's a
major cost in transporting that water back up to
the district area.
Mr. Hernandez, responding to C/Harmony's inquiry,
stated that he does not have all the figures to
determine the cost of bringing water from the Rio
Hondo treatment facility. In regards to being able
to tap into the proposed Tres Hermans Ranch
recycled water system, he indicated that, as more
plans become available, all alternatives will be
considered.
CD/DeStefano thanked Mr. Hernandez for attending
the meeting and providing the Commission with a
synopsis of the Water Shortage Contingency Plan.
He inquired which treatment facility would the
water come from for the reclaimed water lake
proposed at the Tres Hermanos Ranch.
Mr. Hernandez indicated that he has not yet seen
any plans. However, he would presume that most of
it would probably come from the 605/60 freeway.
CD/DeStefano announced that there was an error in
the public hearing notification for architectural
review of 3 single family homes located at 2638
S1aze,Trail, 22105 Rim Fire Lane, and 23624 Falcons
View Dr. Staff has readvertized the projects, for
staff architectural review, for the meeting of
February 24, 1992.
C/Harmony requested the Minutes of January 27, 1992
be amended on page 2, third paragraph, to add
a
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Jan. 27, 1992 "...the project - that rather than responding to
the Commission's concerns for high density on the
project, the developer changed it to a Senior
Citizens complex - cut a few units and reduced
parking, and still had not addressed the
Commission's stated concerns."; and on page 4,
ninth paragraph, to insert :...from the general
public, and the City Council...".
Motion was made by C/Schey, seconded by VC/MacBride
and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to approve the Minutes of
January 27, 1992, as amended.
NEW BUSINESS: CD/DeStefano stated that, pursuant to the
discussion at the last meeting, the clause under
New Agenda Format the heading Matters From The Audience/Public
Comments has been changed - to incorporate a
provision to allow the public to speak not only on
non agenda items, but all those items that are not
public hearings within the agenda for the evening.
C/Schey suggested that it should be limited to
items within the Commission's jurisdiction.
Architectural CD/DeStefano stated that, pursuant to discussion at
Design Review the last meeting, City staff has provided the
Commission with a copy of Ordinance No. 5, adopted
March of 1990, which establishes a design review
process.
Chair/Grothe suggested that staff reports also
include a report on'design review concerns, to
include color photographs of the surrounding
properties, a couple of views of the subject
property to be either developed or remodeled, as
well as a display of the type of building materials
to be used. He inquired if that would need to be
reworked into the Ordinance, or if it can be
changed as a procedural matter.
CD/DeStefano indicated that the request may be
better inserted into the Ordinance when dealing
with the new Development Code. In the interim,
based upon the Commission's direction, staff can
revise the applications, at the public counter, and
advise applicants verbally that such photographs
are necessary as part of the application package.
- There is a catch all clause within the Development
Review application requirements that would permit
the Commission, or staff, to request additional
information.
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C/Schey suggested requiring video tapes, of a given
neighborhood or project site, as an effective tool
to visualize the site.
CD/DeStefano stated that the developer could be
required to provide one of those forms of
documentations. Upon review, staff would display
it for the Commission. Some cities utilize the
video tape method, however, with this size of
staff, and the capabilities, we don't see.it in the
foreseeable future.
C/Harmony, in regards to the recent criticism of
the apartment complex project on Grand Ave.,
indicated that he felt that the problem involved an
architectural review concept. He indicated that
Diamond Bar has a history of working with an
architectural review committee with our CC&R's, our
Homeowners Association, and TransAmerica. To his
understanding, that authority of architectural
review has been transferred to the Diamond Bar
Improvement Association (DBIA). Their
recommendations would then come before the Planning
Commission. He noted that the City Council, in the
original Development Review Ordinance, had proposed
a separate architectural committee. This kind of
interfacing would insure architectural
compatibility within our community, and avoid the
embarrassing situation such as that particular
apartment building. C/Harmony informed the
Commission that he obtained a copy of the City of
Ojai's ordinance on architectural review procedure.
He noted that, first off, they appoint an
architectural board of review. Also, there is a
lot more detail and depth within their guidelines.
The Commission has never really seriously dealt
with architectural aesthetic concepts. Perhaps
something could be worked out with the DBIA, with
whatever authority they may have in this regard.
He suggested that the Commission may want to
recommend to the City Council, to include into the
ordinance, the formation of some kind of an
architectural review board, consisting of
architects and landscape architects, that would
review these projects, and make comments to the
Plannning Commission.
Chair/Grothe, concerned with adding another level
of bureaucracy, suggested that standards for issues
like zoning for density, set back requirements, and
landscaping, be toughened to see if we can get by
without more bureaucracy. Staff could be required
to see to it that the developer follows a list of
guidelines as part of our design review.
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C/Schey indicated that he would prefer to have the
flexibility of a committee, rather than legislate
regulations that are essentially arbitrary. There
are circumstances when one set of guidelines may
not be appropriate for a development.
Chair/Grothe pointed out that if there is a
circumstance that a developer feels the standards
should be modified, then he should apply for a
variance. In this way, the ground rules are the
same for everyone up front.
CD/DeStefano, in response to VC/MacBride's inquiry,
explained that the whole question of whether the
DBIA participates, or does the review, has yet to
be resolved. As of now, we're trying to better
communicate with one another in terms of providing
the DBIA with the ability to review projects that
are coming before the City for discretionary
approval, then receiving their letters and
comments, and taking them under advisement.
VC/MacBride, encouraging the process of an ongoing
exchange of information, suggested that the DBIA
send a member, of their committee, to communicate
with the Planning Commission. He indicated that
perhaps the Commission should also set up an
architectural review committee.
CD/DeStefano suggested that, if the Commission
develops a set of standards, guidelines, or policy,
it would make it easier for a body of people to
review a project, based upon approval of such
standards. It is also easier for the developer if
standards are set up front.
In response to VC/MacBride, CD/DeStefano suggested
that the standards be separated as a free standing
policy document, to run concurrently with each
development review application. If the Commission
chooses to make this a high priority, a message
could be sent to the City Manager, and the City
Council, that resources be set aside to prepare
such a document, and to move it into the upcoming
workshop for the next fiscal year.
C/Harmony stated that, if the DBIA expanded their
scope of their committee beyond CC&R issues, he
would feel comfortable with that kind of
private/public mix of community and public
structure working together.
Chair/Grothe requested that staff provide the
Commission with immediate assistance with the
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design review concerns. However, in developing the
policy, he feels that guidance should come from the
top and filter down to the Commission.
CD/DeStefano reaffirmed that there is a specific
provision in the ordinance that allows staff the
ability to require additional submittal documents
beyond what the ordinance points out.
C/Harmony suggested that the matter be turned over
to the "White Paper" committee. The committee is
to include the comments made into their report, and
make a recommendation to the City Council. The
Commission concurred. C/Harmony submitted the Ojai
ordinance, as a sample of a recognized model or an
ordinance.
CONTINUED AP/Searcy addressed the Commission regarding the
PUBLIC HEARINGS: request for architectural approval of a one floor
5,080 sq. ft. Goodyear Auto Service Center building
DR 91-3 to be located in the Country Hills Towne Center.
At the last hearing, the Commission directed staff
to- address various issues including, but not
limited to, the following: parking; auto and
pedestrian circulation; orientation of the
buildings; and potential noise impacts. AP/Searcy
reviewed these issues, with the Commission, as
indicated in the staff report, and reviewed the
suggested mitigation measures to minimize sound
emissions.
Chair/Grothe stated that, on his request for
parking information, he wanted to know how the
existing facility meets the existing parking code,
taking into effect all the uses in the Center, as
well as a full breakdown of that shared parking.
DCA/Curley advised VC/MacBride that, since he was
absent at the opening hearings, it would be
advisable that he not participate in a vote, at
this time, unless he has had the opportunity to get
up to speed with the rest of the Commission.
VC/MacBride stated that, though he is up to speed
with the issues, he will not participate in the
vote, to avoid any misapprehension on any part of
the audience.
Mark Wieman, on behalf of Landsing Pacific Fund,
the owner of Country Hills Towne Center, Executive
Vice President and Chief Officer for the Fund,
indicated that the difficulties confronting the
real estate industry in Southern California, and
the nation in general, have claimed six retail
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operators in the Country Hills. Without the
Commission's support, there will be more
casualties. The two applications will help
preserve the economic viability of the Center. He
requested that both applications be approved.
Tom Wolff, President of the Wolff Company, 7700
Irvine Center Drive, Irvine, Development Manager of
Country Hills Towne Center, indicated that they are
prepared to answer any of the Commission's
concerns. He stated that the members of the
Country Hills Association very much want to see -the
Center expanded.
Bill Thackery, owner of Little Professor Book
store, representing the Merchants Association,
submitted a petition, to the Commission, signed by
all the merchants in the Center, supporting their
interest in seeing this Center expanded.
Tom Wolff stated the following: They have made a
real effort to orient the Good Year building in
such a way that would be beneficial to all of the
various parties involved; they will landscape the
blank wall to look more attractive; the City's
engineer has indicated that the sound report is
satisfactory as far as mitigating the noise; and,
they feel, that the issue of noise can be mitigated
by the construction of the wall indicated on the
plans.
Mark Schaffer, Senior Consultant at Associate
Principal of Mckay Conant Brook, Inc., Sound
Engineer, addressed the Commission prepared to
answer any questions.
In response to C/Harmony's inquiry, Mr. Schaffer
made the following comments: the actual maximum
level of a sound jump of any particular activity
would be 76 decibels - the 84.5 decibel rating was
a summation of several different events if they all
occurred at once; with the 8 foot wall, the sound
jumps are reduced by 5 to 7 decibels, depending on
the specific type of noise source; the ambient
sound level comes from Diamond Bar Blvd. and the 57
freeway; the total amount of sound, that gets out
into the neighborhood, is reduced if the doors to
the unused bays are closed; and the 8 foot wall is
the most efficient way to mitigate the sound jumps,
in his opinion.
Mr. Schaffer responded to a series of inquiries,
from VC/MacBride, pin pointing the specific
location of the sound testing.
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In response to Chair/Grothe's concern regarding the
effects of the frequency of the sound, Mr. Schaffer
indicated that the concept of the frequency content
impacting a'perceived loudness, of sound is taken
into account in the type of sound level meter
instrumentation used. He further indicated that
when he was taking his measurements on Saturday,
7:15 a.m., a passing garbage truck's sound level
was 86.5 decibels.
Tom Wolff made the following comments: They would
be a better looking neighbor if the wall was
landscaped rather that turning the building around;
due to a technical problem, they were unable to
present the slides concerning parking; the results
of taking pictures every hour for 12 hours, Friday
and Saturday, showed that at no time were there
enough cars in any place in the center to warrant
concern over the amount of parking; the way the
building is oriented, as indicated in the
application, is the way we, and the tenant, would
like to see it done; and there are intenuating
measures which will mitigate the sound to
satisfactory ambient noise levels of the community
that are already there.
CD/DeStefano, in response to C/Schey's inquiry,
explained that both the Goodyear and the Speedee
Lube stores are development review applications.
The conditional use permit (CUP) is an amendment to
the previous CUP covering the entire property. The
original CUP did not show a pad on the site of the
.Speedee Lube. It is primarily for the subdivision
which would permit the Kentucky Fried Chicken
facility in the future.
The Public Hearing was declared open.
Jo Vassman, residing at 2509 Sunbright Dr., and
Sara Anderson, residing at 2517 Sunbright Dr.,
addressed the following concerns: the present
driveway creates a hazardous traffic condition;
there should be a sidewalk constructed by the
driveway; the noise levels will be constant and
annoying; the project will decrease home values;
there will be an increase of traffic in an already
dangerous intersection; the owners should first
consider finding tenants for the empty store
fronts; and why is an automotive center being
considered in a residential community.
Wayne Fisher, residing at 2675 Crooked Creek, made
the following concerns: the present wall has never
been landscaped; the intersection of Fountain
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Springs and Diamond Bar Blvd. is already dangerous
without the increase in traffic that will be
created by the project; the sound level study
should not be averaged over a 24 hour period, but
averaged over the hours the store is opened; and
there are retired residents that will have to
listen to the noise all day.
Arthur Ramos, residing on the corner of Fountain
Springs and Crooked Creek, made the following
comments: the street entrance is presently narrow;
the fumes from the traffic is already unbearable;
and the reason there is plenty of parking is
because many of the store fronts are not rented.
Dr. Pamela Anderson, residing at 2628 Rising
Star, made the following comments: noise levels
are already high from the 57 freeway and Diamond
Bar Blvd.; the increase in the sound decibel is on
a logarithmic scale therefore the sound increases
100 units not just 10.6 decibels; there is no
guarantee that the owner -will keep mufflers on the
_ hydraulic lifts, or keep them in working condition;
' and what recourse will the residents have if the
noise is unbearable and a burden to the residents.
Don Long, residing at 2640 Rising Star, made the
following comments: the area is already noisy and
additional noise will make that area even more
unbearable; the project will have a detrimental
impact on property values; the traffic will
increase; and there is already ample automotive
facilities on the north side of Diamond Bar.
The following persons opposed the project for
reasons previously mentioned: Ken Anderson,
residing at 2628 Rising Star Dr.; Steve Baben,
residing at 2605 Rising Star Dr.; and Bob Gannon,
residing at 2641 Rising Star Dr.
Bart Porter, Executive Vice President of the Wolff
Co., made the following rebuttals: the project is
already an approved use; there is an element that
is desirous for an automotive use on this side of
Diamond Bar; the traffic study presented was
thorough; the units, on the logarithmic scale for
sound decibels, are multiplied twice, not ten
�- times, as was indicated; and the residents were
aware that the property next to them was zoned
commercial when they bought their property.
Mark Weiman made the following comments: the
Speedee Lube project has proposed the construction
of a sidewalk on the side of the existing driveway;
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they are willing to make the driveway a one way
h'
ingress; they are willing to landscape the existing
wall if the City can show that such a promise was
made, as was indicated; the Center is 88% leased,
with rents declining; the Center provides more
parking than is required; and all that is proposed,
under the reconfiguration of the area of the
proposed applications, has, in the aggregate,
decreased the amount of sq. footage proposed.
Ken Anderson stated that the entire Center lacks
sidewalks in all of their entrances. The parking
study, and shared use, is not working even now
without full occupancy.
CD/DeStefano informed the Commission that though
the automotive use has been permitted within the
zone, the use, and the building is subject to
development review criteria which incorporates
compatibility with design, screening, buffering,
mitigation measures that don't create an adverse
impact upon aesthetics, health and safety, and so
forth. The Commission has three options on this
particular project: approve the application with
appropriate mitigation measures; deny the°
application based upon findings; or send the
project back for further work.
CE/Mousavi indicated that because the noise study
was delivered to the City on February 4, 1992,
staff has not had adequate time to review it and
prepare a response. The consultants, however, have
reviewed the report and concurred with it's
recommendations and findings. Upon reviewing the
report tonight, he indicated that he has some
questions and concerns with respect to the findings
of the report.
William Fisher inquired if the proposed wall will
be specifically constructed as a sound wall.
The Public Hearing was declared closed.
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Chair/Grothe called a recess at 10:32 p.m. The
meeting was called back to order at 10:48 p.m.
DCA/Curley, in response to Chair/Grothe, stated
that the Commission's action tonight is final,
subject to appeal within a 10 day period to the
council.
Chair/Grothe stated that he would hope that the
owner, Mr. Wieman, would make some real efforts on
some of the resident's concerns regardless of any
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of the public hearing outcomes. He recommended the
following improvements: the signs, for theater
parking around the back of the building, should be
up immediately; the sidewalks ingressing into the
Center would generate more foot traffic, and
traffic into the Center; the existing wall on
Fountain Springs should be landscaped; make the
Fountain Springs driveway an ingress only; the
whole design of the building needs major rework;
having a sidewalk, and landscaping, with the
building, is a lot more aesthetic than another 8
foot wall; turning the building may solve the noise
problem, but if not, he would be against the
project; turning the Center may help the visual
blight, and, with proper landscaping, softened the
entrance into the Center; creating a fenced yard
may be more detrimental; having the roll up door
face the entrance way is unappealing; and he is not
interested in putting a use in, that is not
compatible, or, at least, not appropriately placed.
He stated that he is torn between denying the
project, or extending the application until there
has been a major redesign, as indicated. He
stressed, however, that if the noise level is
increased even one decibel, he would not consider
the project.
Motion was made by Chair/Grothe to continue the
project to the March 23rd meeting, with the intent
that there be a major redesign of the project,
addressing the concerns previously indicated. The
MOTION FAILED for lack of a second.
C/Schey indicated that the traffic issues are not a
problem. However, he is concerned with the impact
that the use will have with the surrounding
residents. If the use was to be included into the
Center, it would be more properly included in a
location that was more remote from residential
development around it. He is inclined to deny the
project.
Motion was made by C/Schey, and seconded by
C/Harmony to direct staff to prepare a resolution
of denial for consideration at the next meeting.
Chair/Grothe inquired if the motion of denial is
without prejudice.
C/Schey stated that, given that his major concern
is the appropriateness of the use in that
particular location in the Center, he would not be
inclined to see the use come back in a different
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CUP 91-12;
DR 91-5; &
SR 91-42
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configuration. For that reason, he would not
intend his motion to be without prejudice.
Chair/Grothe suggested that since only three of the
five Commissioners will be voting, perhaps it
should be continued to allow everyone the
opportunity to vote. He pointed out that there are
citizens that feel that a decent automotive service
center on the south end of town is important.
The Commission voted on the C/Schey's Motion.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Harmony and Schey.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Chair/Grothe.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: VC/MacBride.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Flammenbaum.
THE MOTION CARRIED.
PT/Lungu addressed the Commission regarding the
request for a CUP No. 91-12 and Development Review
No.91-5 which is for a Speedee Oil Change and Tune -
Up. She emphasized that the work at Speedee is not
the same kind of work done at Goodyear. It is a
preventive maintenance service that does not
require the same tools as. Goodyear, nor does it
have the same kind of noise factor. Speedee has
proposed to move the building three and a half feet
to the north creating a clearer line of site
exiting from that area into the main part of the
Center. They have also agreed to put in the extra
sidewalk discussed, as well as provide extra
landscaping for the existing wall. The applicant
is also requesting to amend CUP 87-002 for the use
of pad No. 15 for a drive-through restaurant pad
and a retail pad. Staff recommended that the
Commission approve a resolution for this project,
as well as the Mitigated Negative Declaration, and
the Findings of Fact.
C/Harmony questioned if the 3 to 4 vehicles
serviced daily for smog tests would be profitable
for the business. He inquired what the emissions,
from testing cars, would do to the local
neighborhood.
Mark Weiman, on behalf of Landsing Pacific Fund,
stated that they will do everything in their power
to do those items, suggested by Chair/Grothe,
relating to both the Goodyear and the Speedee
projects.
Tom Wolff stated the following: there will be a
sidewalk leading down'into the Center from Fountain
Springs; the building has been moved three feet
back to accommodate parking in front of the
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building; the trash enclosure has been removed
creating a clear line of site; the architectural
design is consistent with the architecture in the
Center; the KFC is strictly a drive-through and
does not contain seating within the store; and the
remaining building will be retail.
CD/DeStefano, in response to Chair/Grothe's
inquiry, confirmed that, at this time, the
Commission is looking at a pad division for lot 15.
It's specific uses and architecture would be
subject to development review at a later date.
Secondly, the Commission is looking at a
development review for the Speedee Oil facility.
C/Harmony stated that he has problems with this
particular lot split because it is his philosophy
that lot splits should have a development plan.
The Public Hearing was declared open.
Bart Porter, of the Wolff Company, explained that
�- the Commission is being asked to approve the CUP,
` and the design review, to allow Speedee on the site
because there was not a pad drawn there on the
original CUP. Also, that same CUP includes the
splitting of the lot for the purposes of providing
two identifiable spaces. The reason for this is
because the restaurant use is going to be on a
ground lease. To make the lease with the owner, we
need to know that it is an approved use at that
location. The CUP asks for your approval of that
site as a drive-through facility, with the design
to be determined later.
Al Bolton, the KFC franchise operator and owner,
explained, ideally, they like a location that is
on the going home side of the transitory public,
and on a full corner. Since this was not possible,
it was decided that a downscale drive-through take
out would be more appropriate. They cater to a
going home crowd during dinner time, and have a 60
second service time record. Therefore, the 8 car
stacking capacity is not perceived to be a problem.
Mike Benette, 41 Gulling Dr., Laguna Niguel, real
estate representative for Speedee, responding to
questions from the Commission, stated that:
Speedee will have one air compressor used to pump
the oil out of the tanks, and filling air into the
tires; Speedee typically has three primary profit
centers, which is oil change, tune-up and smog
checks; smog check is the only about 10% of it's
service, amounting to about 3 to 4 cars, and it
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usually entails doing tune-up type work as well;
mature stores are servicing about 40 cars per day,
with a ticket average of about $50.00 per car; 60%
of the business will be oil change.
Bob Gannon, residing at 2641 Rising Star, stated
the following concerns: the location of an
automotive repair or service is not appropriately
placed abutting R-1 property; it would be better
located by the Alta Ski & sport and the Wherehouse;
the proposed location is too close to the theater
and creates a dangerous traffic situation; they may
decide to use air wrenches in the future; and
grease pumps are very noisy.
Don Long, residing at 2640 Rising Star, stated that
he is concerned with the increase of traffic from
the 40 per day customers they anticipate. Also,
that area does not need an increase in noise that
will be generated from the facility.
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Ken Anderson, residing at 2628 Rising Star, stated
that the grade of the driveway will obscure vision
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ingressing and egressing from the driveway to the
facility. He is also concerned with drainage if
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further grading is done upon construction.
Bart Porter stated the following: the suggested
change in location would not be feasible because
the main anchor stores, in the Center, would not
allow the facility on those sites because it would
obscure their line of site; Speedee will employ 4
4
workers therefore parking is not a problem; the
wall will be landscaped with a creeping fig that
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will not only block the view of Speedee, but also
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help block any noise; and servicing 40 cars a
is not
is only about 1 car every 15 minutes, which
a big increase in traffic.
Mike Benette made the following rebuttals: Speedee
has been in existence for about 13 years and has
never altered their service, which is preventive
in back of
maintenance; only have 1 air compressor
the sore; there is no noise coming from the lube
iguns;
and there is a substantial demand for this
type of automotive service in the area.
Mark Weiman urged the Commission to make the
distinction between the Goodyear application and
this Speedee application.
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Ken Anderson cautioned against approving the
Speedee simply because the Goodyear project was
denied.
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Bob Gannon questioned why Alpha Beta signed the
petition to allow these businesses, yet they will
not have the Speedee facility located by them.
The Public Hearing was declared closed.
C/Schey, noting that the square footage totals for
the split of pad #15, #14 and, the new pad #13 was
less than what was permitted on the original CUP
for pad #14 and #15, stated his concern that if a
new pad of this type was allowed, it not result in
an overall gain in the total sq. footage of
building that was permitted on the site.
C/Harmony inquired as to why Alpha Beta would be
opposed to having the Speedee facility across from
them.
Mr. Weiman explained that the reason the anchor
stores have stipulated to certain site quarters is
because they believe they rely very heavily on site
advertising. The densities at the Alta Ski
location is the maximum that they would agree with.
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Chair/Grothe stated the following: turn the
building 90 degrees and backed up so it is not the
leading building coming into the Center; would
consider a potentially increase in signage if the
effect of the building is decreased; and most of
the other items could be conditioned such as: the
compressor, pumps, and motors be placed in a
compressor room; no air tools; and no major
automotive repair.
C/Harmony inquired at what time will we require
development plans for lot subdivisions. .
C/Schey stated that the Commission is not creating
a lot, but allowing development on this pad to be
configured as two separate buildings. The split of
these pads is being done for lease of the property
and we are not creating two legal parcels.
Motion was made by C/Schey, seconded by
Chair/Grothe, and CARRIED to continue the matter to
the next regular meeting, and direct staff to draft
a Resolution of Approval that mandate that the
-' total square footage of the RFC pad and the
Goodyear pad will not be exceeded by the allocation
of square footage to this new pad and the other two
pads; prohibit the use of noematic tools; mandate
the enclosure of the compressor units; mandate the
appropriate landscaping of the existing wall along
Fountain Springs; mandate the creation of a
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sidewalk along the entrance 'road off of Fountain
Springs; and with the City Engineer recommendation,
mandate an entrance only configuration for that
driveway or mandate the maintenance of that as a
two way driveway; and mandate that a detailed
landscaping plan, be submitted to staff consistent
with the other landscaping on the site. The
Resolution would cover the proposed CUP 91-12, the
development Review 91-5, and the Sign Review 91-42.
AYES: ,COMMISSIONERS: Harmony, Schey and
Chair%Grothe.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: MacBride.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Flamenbaum.
CUP 91-14 CD/DeStefano reported that the application is for a
request to open a dry cleaning establishment which
will maintain a dry cleaning plant on the premises.
The proposed project is located at 11397-99 Diamond
Bar Blvd., which is in a C -3 -BE Zone. A dry
cleaning establishment is allowed in this zone by
right, however, since this facility will have a
plant on site, a conditional use permit is
required. Staff has received numerous letters from
citizens who are in opposition to this particular
application because there are existing dry cleaners
within the City, and several different dry cleaners
within this immediate area. The citizens are also
concerned about the impacts to air quality from the
chemicals used with this kind of operation. Upon
contact with the AQMD, they indicated that there is
no maximum facilities that can be located within
one jurisdiction, as long as each of them receives
the proper permits through the procedures
established by AQMD. Secondly, staff is unaware of
a single City that gets into the issue of
separating land uses, or over concentration of land
uses (with the possible exception of adult uses).
Staff recommended The Commission approve the
application, with the mitigated negative
declaration, the findings of fact, and conditions.
C/Harmony indicated that the last prior approval
for the dry cleaning establishment had a problem
with their exhaust venting into the back door of
one of the upstairs offices. The venting was
reduct to solve the problem.
The Public Hearing was declared opened.
Douglas Levine, a dry cleaning in-house consultant
for PECO Equipment Co., explained that the only
venting done in a dry cleaning facility today is
the venting of the boiler. There are no chemicals
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vented to the atmosphere, or discharged to the
sewer. This facility has already been approved by
AQMD. It is just in the process of a name change.
He further stated that, to his knowledge, there are
only two cleaners in the general area. One cleaner
is across the way, and the other is in the adjacent
center.
CD/DeStefano explained that there are two separate
centers with two separate owners that are adjacent
to one another.
John Hitan, owner of the existing cleaners located
within 75 yards of the proposed new facility,
stated that there are already 6 cleaners within a
quarter of a mile distance. Another facility,
especially so close to their existing business, may
drive them away. Furthermore, parking is already a
problem within that center.
Grigori Hitan, owner of Thrifty Clean Cleaners,
stated that the shopping center, that they are
presently located, is small and competition is
already difficult. If this proposed discount
cleaners is permitted to come into the Center, it
will close out his business.
Bill Tinsmen, residing at 1014 Capon Ave.,
indicated that City Planners should not allow
business failures by allowing too many of the same
uses to operate within one area.
Doug Levine pointed out that the issue here is one
of free enterprise, not of planning, because you
have two different shopping centers, with two
different landlords.
Grigori Hitan stated that though the centers are
separate, they are adjacent, and both are too small
for two cleaners to exist.
John Hitan stated that it is unfair to expect free
enterprise when his competition is next store to
him within a small area.
The Public Hearing was declared closed.
PT/Lungu, responding to C/Harmony, explained that
staff didn't receive application for a permit
may! before the name change. The AQMD issued the permit
under the old name. They are now coming to the
Commission for a CUP under the new name.
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C/Harmony stated that though he believes in liaise
faire government, he has trouble with seeing this
type of development going in when there are six dry
cleaners in the area. Any good landlord would not
allow 2 cleaners in one center, except for the fact
that they,are two separatelandlords.
Motion was made by C/Harmony to deny the CUP.
The Motion Failed for lack of a second.
Chair/Grothe indicated that it is not the
Commission's responsibility to chose which business
goes in which center.
C/Schey stated that deciding which business is
viable and which isn't viable exceeds our planning
function.
C/Harmony, noting staff's efforts to make sure that
churches could not go in commercial zoning, or the
Commission's discussion about avoiding the
development of two car washes across from each
other, stated that the Commission often makes
decisions based on economic development.
Motion was made by C/Schey, seconded by VC/MacBride
and CARRIED to approve the CUP as recommended by
staff and subject to the conditions outlined in the
' Resolution.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Schey, MacBride, and
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Chair/Grothe.
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INFORMATIONAL
ITEMS:
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Harmony.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Flamenbaum.
C/Schey stated that the "White Paper" sub -committee
intends on having a draft available for review in
advance of the next meeting.
CD/DeStefano confirmed that the Planning Institute
is to be held in Anaheim.
C/Harmony noted, for the record, Mr. Piermarini's
excellent response in preventing a mudslide, during
construction of his development, after the rains.
When he completed his grading, he gave the
surrounding residents free car washes in Rowland
Heights.
CD/DeStefano, responding to C/Harmony's request for
an update to the Hills Club incident, stated the
City Manager has requested staff to negotiate with
the Hills Club, within 60 days, and develop a
policy to prevent large parties in the future.
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ADJOURNMENT: Motion was made by VC/MacBride, seconded by
C/Harmony and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to adjourn the
-meeting at 1:30 a.m.
Respectively,
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Ja ?e -s DeStefan
V/P
Secretary/Plan inag Commission
test:
Jack Grothee
Chairman