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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/23/1992CI'T'Y OF DIAMOND BAR MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOVEMBER 23, 1992 CALL TO ORDER: Vice Chairman MacBride called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m. at the South Coast Air Quality Management District Auditorium, 21865 E. Copley Drive, Diamond Bar, California. PLEDGE OF The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by ALLEGIANCE: Commissioner Grothe. ROLL CALL: Commissioners: Meyer, Grothe, and Vice Chairman MacBride. Chairman Flamenbaum arrived at 7:20 p.m.. Commissioner Li was absent. Also present were Community Development Director James DeStefano, Associate Planner Robert Searcy, Planning Technician Ann Lungu, Interim City Engineer George Wentz, Deputy City Attorney Craig Fox, and Contract Secretary Liz Myers. CONSENT CALENDAR: Motion was made by C/Meyer, seconded by C/Grothe and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to approve the Minutes of Minutes of November 9, 1992, as presented. Nov. 9, 1992 PUBLIC HEARINGS: PT/Lungu presented the staff report regarding the request, made by the applicant Fermin and Margaret CUP 92-10 Bitolas, to permit an existing dry cleaning L—J business to install a dry cleaning plant on the premises, located at the Plaza Diamond Bar center, 2020 S. Brea Canyon Rd. #A-4. A dry cleaning plant is permitted in this zone by right, provided that a conditional use permit is .first obtained. However, when the applicant submitted plans to the City for reconstruction, following a fire that destroyed a portion of that shopping center, it was realized that a CUP had not been obtained per Section 22.28.210 of the Los Angeles County Code. The City allowed the applicant to continue doing business during and after reconstruction, as long as an application for a CUP was submitted for review and approval of the Planning Commission. PT/Lungu reviewed the application analysis and the environmental assessment, as presented in the staff report. It is recommended that the Commission approve the Mitigated Negative Declaration, and CUP 92-10 with the Findings of Fact and conditions listed. VC/MacBride declared the Public Hearing opened. Fermin Bitolas, the applicant, stated that he has been operating his dry cleaning establishment, at _ the Plaza Diamond Bar, since 1972, from the hours of 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., Monday through Friday, and 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Saturday. He stated that he is in concurrence with the recommendations prepared by staff. November 23, 1992 Page 2 VC/MacBride declared the Public Hearing closed. Chair/Flamenbaum, 'upon his arrival at 7:20, presided over the�meeting. Motion was made by C/Meyer and seconded by VC/MacBride to approve the draft Resolution, with the Findings of Fact and conditions listed, including the two additional conditions attached to the staff report. C/Grothe suggested that the condition, for the hours of operation, be amended to be more generically worded, to read, "Hours of operation are between 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., Monday through Friday, and 7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., on Saturday. The Commission concurred. C/Meyer concurred to amend his motion to include the amendment made by C/Grothe to condition #2,10f the additional conditions attached to the staff report. I'. The Commission -voted upon the Motion as presented, and amended, by C/Meyer. The motion was UNANIMOUSLY CARRIED. CUP 92-9 AP/Searcy presented the staff report regarding the request, made by the applicant PACTEL CELLUIsAR,llto locate an unmanned cellular telephone site of telephone transmitting equipment, installed within a vacant leased 665 square foot interior area, located at 23555 Golden Springs Drive, including roof top antennas and dishes to be located on ,the western portion of the building. The use is conditionally permitted within Zone C-1, pursuant to section 22.28.110 of Title 22 of the Planning and Zoning Code. AP/Searcy reviewed the application analysis and the environmental assessment, as presented in the staff report. It is recommended that the Commission approve the draft Resolution, the Mitigated Negative Declaration, and the Findings of Fact and conditions. Chair/Flamenbaum, concerned with the choices' of paint on radiating. elements, suggested that the applicant be required to have the paint closely approximate the color of thebuilding, as opposed to requiring the paint types to match. Chair/Flamenbaum` declared the Public Hearing opened. _11 i .,.J.i II a lir.�!t 1 JUr 10"'J9.jli�Pht November 23, 1992 Page`-3' Larry Levin, 3 Park Plaza, Irvine, inquired why conditions #1, #2, and #5, of the Engineering Department Conditions, are required for a cellular telephone company. ICE/Wentz concurred that condition #5 should be deleted. In regards to condition #1 and #2, he explained that upon review of a CUP, the on site conditions, and the street conditions immediately adjacent to the particular site, are reviewed to seek improvement, when deemed appropriate. Recognizing that this application has limited traffic impacts, comments were limited to an on site problem relating to parking delineation, and a minimal contribution towards capital costs were requested for slurry sealing type improvements. It is not uncommon to request participation, from an engineering perspective, on these types of improvements. Ann Rogers, the applicant's radio frequency design engineer, responding to C/Grothe's inquiries, made the following comments: the whip antennae is for future digital use, and will not be mounted until a later date; the microwave dish is used, instead of lease lines from Pac Bell, to connect us to the MTSO (switching center), which helps to connect the mobile telephones to the regular Pac Bell or GTE service;. and the microwave are very directional antennas. C/Grothe noted that the microwave and the whip antennas are explicitly excluded from a couple of the cellular poles in town.He inquired what the effect will be to these antennas if there is a 3 story building blocking the entire property in from the freeway. Ann Rogers indicated that cellular would have somewhat of a problem, and microwave would not work because it is a point to point service. Often times the dish has to be relocated. In response to C/Meyer's inquiry if cellular will have any effect on ham- radios, she explained that cellular is governed and regulated by the FCC. C/Meyer suggested that, because this is a local control measure, a condition be added that requires PACTEL to work with the neighbors to come up with a solution in case they complain that it is effecting their radio operations. Larry Levin, in response to Chair/ Flamenbaum Is inquiries, stated the following: since the November 230 1992 Page 4 engineers have it designed for the indicated height, aimed at another microwave dish, the problem stemming from a 3 story building would have to be addressed as it arises; the whips are 15 feet; the paint will, match in color of building, and not the exact paint type; and the whips can installed now;' but it is anticipated that they won't be in use for'anoth'er year. Chair/Flamenbaum declared the Public Hearing closed. C/Meyer noted that condition #3 and #4, of the Engineering Department Conditions, are covered under the Planning Department's condition #2, and should be deleted along with condition #5. He then indicated that he does not see the correlation of requiring the applicant to pay an additional $2,500 for. slurry sealing public streets for a project that staff has indicated generates a minimal amount of traffic. Condition #1, of the Engineering Department Conditions, can remain because the landlord will most likely maintain his own property to keep his tenant. Chair/Flamenbaum suggested that the grant time be extended from one year -to two years. Motion was made by C/Meyer, seconded by VC/MacBride and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to approve the draft Resolution for CUP 92-9, the Mitigated Negative Declaration, and' the Findings of Fact and conditions, amending condition #3 to grant a two year extension, and deleting condition #2, #3, #4, and #5 of the Engineering Department Conditions,,. Chair/Flamenbaum recessed the meeting at 8:00 p.m. The meeting was reconvened at 8:10 p.m. CUP 92-13 AP/Searcy presented the staff report regarding the request, made by the applicant Dong Min Lee, for a Karaoke Recording studio in an existing commercial center, located at 20627 Colima Road, Bldg. No. 3.' The application request is not aCouse Code, currently appears -in the Los AngelesY as adopted by the City of Diamond Bar. Therefore, staff has made a determination that the use is most consistent with a recording studio as listed in Title 22 section 28'.160. AP/Searcy reviewed the application analysis and the conditions,, as presented in the staff report, and made the following changes to the conditions: delete, the words "and doors" from condition #5, and replace with "into the studio"; reword the last sentence of November 23, 1992 L -11 Page 5 condition #6 to read, "An international sign reflecting the preceding shall additionally be incorporated with the above sign."; delete "and at all times" from the end of condition #7; reword condition #15 to read, "No employees shall be utilized for any, purpose other than as a cashier and directing patrons to studios. Only an owner or manager may be required to instruct patrons on the use of equipment if conducted within a studio."; condition #17 should read, "Each studio shall provide a two foot by 4 foot fluorescent fixture with three lamps or equivalent illumination as approved by the building official."; and,, since the Sheriff Department has indicated that they find it necessary that they have the ability along with City staff to inspect the premises at any time, condition #3 is amended to read, "The facility shall be subject to inspection by the City official and designees during hours of business.". The conditions listed are an attempt to reduce the potential undesirable occurrences associated with the use of private enclosed studio rooms, the conduct of the patrons within the studios, and the hours of operation as it relates to surrounding land uses. It is recommended that the Commission approve draft Resolution and the Findings of Fact and Conditions, as amended. VC/MacBride requested that "No Loitering", in condition #16,' properly include the necessary quotation marks. C/Grothe noted that the applicant is being greatly restricted by condition #17.,- which limits him to florescent lighting. Foot candles are the accepted measure, and it may be more appropriate for this application. Chair/Flamenbaum noted that the 4 inch letter size, as indicated in condition #6, seems rather large, and the sign may be enormous. Staff presented a video tape, provided by the applicant, which showed an example of a Karaoke studio in downtown Los Angeles, in Koreatown. Chair/Flamenbaum declared the Public Hearing opened. Dong Lee, the applicant, explained that he is a Los Angeles riot victim who is .interested, now, in starting a Karaoke establishment in Diamond Bar. He expressed his concern that the Korean youth do not have a place to go, between midnight and 4:00 November 23, 1992 Page 6 a.m., that will keep them out of trouble, off the streets, and away from alcohol, drugs, and gangs. The youth enjoy music, and listening to music together. They need a place to go, such as the studio,'to stay out,of trouble. There will not be any, alcohol nor food served at the studio. He requested that the -hours of operation be extended to Monday through Thursday,, 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m., and Friday and Saturday, 11:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. because these are the hours that are crucial for his business. He also noted that his daughter, who is opening a restaurant in the same shopping area, plans to stay open to 2:00 a.m., and people will want to be able to use his studio past the 12 midnight time conditioned by,staff. C/Meyer inquired if, Mr. Lee is planning on developing a social program, at his studio, designed to divert children from inappropriate activity. Dong Lee stated that he is not proposing any type of a social program. He only meant to imply that the studio would be of some benefit because the children will have some where to go during the night. The Kar machine is a computerized unit that allows an individual an opportunity to sing along with the music, while the lyrics are flashed across the screen, to tempo, with a background of your choice. In response to VC/MacBride's inquiry, he stated that Karaoke is enjoyed by all ages.! Chair/Flamenbaum inquired if the applicant has read, and understands, the 21 conditions) as nted by staff, and as amended by staff.' He inquired if he is in concurrence with those conditions. Chair/Flamenbaum recessed the meeting at 9:00 P.M o to allow the applicant further opportunity t review the conditions presented, and amended, by staff. The meeting was reconvened at 9:07 p.m. Dong Lee stated that, after reviewing the conditions, he concurs with all the items except for the following: condition #4 - change ;the minimum window standard from 30% of the floor area to 216" x 2'; condition #6 - change the 4" letter size requirement to a 2",requirement; condition #8 - change the hours of operation from 11:00 a.m to 12 a.m., to, 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. Sunday through Thursday, and 11:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. Friday' and Saturday; and condition #17 - require only that there be electric ',lighting. I November 23, 1992 Page 7 Chair/Flamenbaum suggested that the applicant only be required to post a sign that reads, "No Alcohol Allowed", instead of the sign proposed by staff, keeping the 4" letter size requirement. The applicant concurred. - C/Meyer suggested that the applicant be asked to prepare an appropriate sign that meets the approval of the Community Development Director. Chair/Flamehbaum inquired if the applicant concurs with all the conditions, as presented and amended by staff, except for condition #4, #6, #8, and #17. Dong Lee stated that he is in concurrence with all the conditions as presented, and amended, by staff, except for condition #4,,#6, #8, and #17. Ms. Street, residing at 2237 Kella, Whittier, owner of Filmex Photo & Gifts located within Colima Plaza, stated that she is in favor of the Karaoke studio remaining open as late as 2:00 a.m. or later because it would provide added security by adding ,q visibility during the night hours. Greg Kirkly, 'general partner- of the owner of the property, residing at 10951 Oso Ave.,''-Chadsworth, stated that 5 Karaoke studios, at once, -applied for the vacant building, but Mr. Lee was the only applicant that concurred to prohibit food and all beverages on the -premises. He made the following comments: a window requirement based on floor area would require a 6' x 7' window, which is quite expensive; a florescent lighting requirement would not be effective for the television screen; and a 2:00 a.m, time limit is reasonable, and a prevalent standard. He requested that the commission be sensitive to the requests made by Mr'. Lee, realizing that the other conditions, in the lease arrangement, are designed to amply regulate the business. C/Meyer inquired if there have been any complaints received from the residential neighbors complaining about any use in the center. Greg Kirkly stated that the only complaint they received was for the wall in the back, which was required by the County. The only other concern was in regards to the billiards project, discussed at the Planning Commission public hearing last year. E None of those concerns mentioned at that hearing materialized. He stated that he would not have a - - --- - TIli''i i I —�__.._._-.,__.»-- ii iiia November 23, 1992 Page a problem with the Karaoke studio remaining opened until 4:00 a.m. on the weekends. Dave Arlington, residing at 20615 E. Halopine Drive, owner of the Rocky Top Country Saloon in the City of Industry, stated that he is familiar with this type of operation because one is proposed next door to his' saloon, and he has done research with the one opened in Rosemead. He stated the following concerns regarding this project: it creates a neighborhood security problem having people milling around till 4:00 a.m.; they should be required to provide a'security guard, as other recreational activities are required to do so; alcohol can be obtained from the two convenience stores across the street, and drinking may occur in the parking area; the center does not have adequate lighting to warrant a public assembled area; there are a, lot of children, from the grade school and the Junior High School, in the area because of the location of the bus stop; the studio has video capabilities, whereby youngsters could rent inappropriate videos' and view them at this K establishment; the establishment in Rosemead has been visited by policemen many times; the studio rooms are an enclosed environment, having low lights, and a couch, which encourages inappropriate activities; if they are listening to music, they will want to have something to eat or drink, and they will probably bring it in unnoticed; if the establishment becomes popular, there will be Ian overflow of parking; and such an establishment does not belong in a 'small center, so close to' a residential area. He. is opposed to the proposed project in his neighborhood. CJMeyer asked what type of security Mr. Arlington is required to provide at his place of business. Dave Arlington stated that they are required, by a CUP, to maintain security, both internal and external, every night. Additional light power has also been added to the parking lot. The unarmed security guard works as a deterrent against trouble. Mr. Adwin", the designer for the future studio, stated that the Karaoke machines do not have lthe capability to play a video tape, as indicated by Mr. Arlington. This particular machine use; compact discs. In regards to the minimum window area requirement, he stated that most music studios use 216" x 3' windows. If the window is too large, 4 9 November 23, 1992 page„=,9_ the people in the studios will not have the privacy that they prefer. Chair/Flamenbaum asked if it would be feasible to require a glass door along with the 216” x 3' window. Chair/Flamenbaum declared the Public Hearing closed. C/Meyer noted that since the door assembly would have to be fire rated, putting glass in the door may create a further problem and expense to the applicant. C/Grothe suggested that the minimum window requirement be changed to require that each room shall have 10% of the floor area, but not less than 21611 x 31. CDD/DeStefano pointed out that the whole concept of the minimum window area condition comes from the experiences of other local police departments, as well as the review by our own sheriff department. It is recommended that the minimum window area not be anything less than 20%, to allow the public safety officers to be able to see inside the unit in an unobstructed manner. - C/Meyer suggested that condition #5 clearly state that the window is to be unobstructed, and that there is to be no window coverings. CDD/DeStefano stated that condition #5 will be changed to indicate that, "All window into the studio must be non -tinted, transparent, unobstructed, and unimpaired at all times, and there shall be no window coverings." C/Meyer made the following comments: condition #6 should simply indicate that the sign be provided to the satisfaction of the .Director of Community Development, not specifying minimum size of letters; condition #4 should remain with a 20% of the floor area; condition 18 should be changed to require a licensed uniform security guard from 10:00 p.m. to closing because most recreational facilities have security; condition #17 should indicate that all studios must be illuminated to the satisfaction of the Building Official; and there should be a condition that indicates that the rest room, facilities, for each gender, be immediately accessible within the studio. November 23, 1992 Page,10 The Commission discussed the possibility of allowing the establishment to stay open to 4:00 a.m. with the proviso that a licensed unifoz;rm security guard be present 10:00 p.m. to closing. Chair/Flamenbaum suggested that the lights have be controlled from a central location, an second control for the studio itself. The Commission resumed discussion of the hours of operation. CDD/DeStefano confirmed that some Karaoke facilities do stay open past 12:00 a.m. but they are located in intense commercial areas, not in a neighborhood setting such as Colima and Lemon. Staff prefers to be conservative, since it is a new use, and indicate an earlier closing period rather than a later one that may have to be scaled back. Perhaps a security guard approved by our local Sheriff Department would suffice as a deterrent to problems that may arise at 2:00 a.m.. Chair/Flamenbaum inquired if the applicant would be amenable to changing the hours to close at 2:00 a.m. during the week, and 4:00 a.m. on weekends, with the proviso that two uniform security guards be present externally, and one internally, between the hours of 12:40 a.m. to closing. Mr. Lee stated that it would be a great expense to him to have those uniformed security guards, especially since he has not opened his business yet. He would prefer that the Commission allow him to stay open until 2:00 a.m. during the entire week, but without a security guard. C/Meyer pointed out that most recreational facilities, that have crowd control, use uniformed security personnel. It is a benefit to the neighborhood, and to the people that would utilize this service. He recommended that one securlity guard be required from 10:00 p.m to 2:00 a.m. Greg Kirkly pointed out that the same concerns, regarding large outdoor parties, were expressed when the billiard room was proposed, yet none of those concerns materialized. C/Meyer stated that-newspaper articles, such as the ones attached to the staff report, indicate that thet. there is a problem, rotectssb th pce thelpublicartmandethe The security guardp neighborhood. As a compromise, if the owner wants {L?� ..'.P''w �'_t ku.4 ;�.', x-� �, -_- November 23, 1992 page, ,,11 . to stay open till 4:00 a.m., he must provide a security guard. Greg Kirkly requested that, if there is to be a compromise, the Commission allow the applicant to stay open, until '12:00 a.m. without a -security guard, to imake it economical up to that point in time. Chair/Flam'nbaum suggested that the applicant be allowed to stay open from 11:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m., Sunday through Thursday, without a security guard, and 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m., with one uniformed security guard from 12:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. I Motion was made by C/Grothe and seconded by VC/MacBrid6 to approve the project, with the conditions as modified: condition#4 - 20% of the floor area is to be window area, and excluding the door; condition #5 - to add "and there shall be no window coverings"; condition #6 - a sign that is approved b�}(( the Planning Department; condition #8 - hours of dperation are 11:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m., without a security guard, Sunday through Thursday, and -11:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m., Friday and Saturday, with one niformed licensed security guard from 12:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m.; condition "#17 - lighting to meet the requirements of the Building Official; and a condition that two rest room facilities shall be provided within the confines of this total use, and such facilities shall be assessable from inside the studio. Mr. Lee inquired if the Commission would reconsider the hours of operation to allow him to stay open till 4:00 a.m., Friday and Saturday, with one outside uniformed security guard. C/Meyer offered a substitute Motion, changing the hours of operation, condition #8, to be 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. Sunday through Thursday, with one uniformed security guard in the parking area from 12:00 a.m o 2:00 a.m., and 11:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m Friday and Saturday, with one uniformed security guard in the parking area 12:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m., or 11:00 alm to 12:00 a.m. Sunday through Saturday without a �ecurity guard. C/Meyer's substitute Motion died for lack of a second. The Commission voted upon the Motion presented by C/Grothe. The Motion CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. f1111'II I T November 23, 1992 Page 12 INFORMATIONAL ICE/Wentz reported that the State statute requires ITEMS: that the City of Diamond Bar adopt a Transportation Demand Management Plan (TDM) to reduce trips and to Draft take travel demand measures that will help reduce Transportation those trips. The Los Angeles County Transportation Demand Management, Commission (LACTC) has prepared a model ordinance Ordinance based on the input from a number of local jurisdiction. Staff has prepared a draft ordinance, which substantially complies with the model ordinance, to recommend to the City Council. The deadline for adoption of a local TDM is April 3, 1993, however, there are some benefits in having an ordinance introduced before the end of this calendar'year. It is recommended that the Planning Commission'review and comment on the attached draft TDM Ordinance.- VC/MacBride made the following comments: he questioned the use of the term "builder", as used in item'F & G, page 4, and suggested that the term "project" would be more beneficial; there is a lot of State regulations put on the City and the employer, as indicated on page 14, City Audit, and Compliance Inspection; this document is not intended to make it easier for employers to do business in California, but just the opposite under the guise of assisting the transportation program; and the document is weighted in bureaucratic regulations, rather than recognition that California needs streamlining of it's procedures to get things accomplished. ICE/Wentz stated that some of the language, in terms of some of the requirements placed upon a particular project or developer, could be amended within reason. Part of the intent of the audit was the City's mechanism to assure that they, are fulfilling the intent of the plan proposed to be implement for the City. Chair/Flamenbaum, noting that the term "employer" has not been defined, questioned who would be responsible for reporting if a retail space is to consist of office suites. ICE/Wentz explained that the developer would need to present the proposed plan to the City that would be acceptable. , If it is to be office suites; he would need to submit a plan that would be in general compliance with the intent of this ordinance. The owner would be the responsible party for sharing that information that is transmitted, or if it would be those individual businesses. Npd; i 4�s,�L71 G.w r s kV,l ra. h November 23, 1992 Page 13 Chair/Flamenbaum expressed the following concerns: „w the document specifies that "No business licenses shall be renewed", yet there are no business licenses in Diamond Bar; an "employer" is not defined; and there is no provision to cover a series of little shops. He suggested that condition be put in as a lease requirement, that their CC&R's shall include a provision for Congestion Management, of employers of a yet to be specified number of employees. The document should be written to apply to the City. C/Meyer suggested that some sort of an incentive program would be more effective than penalizing an operation that does not have a CMP. Businesses are probably leaving California because of all the reporting that is mandated. Perhaps the document should remain "loose" to allow an avenue for escape. The concept is good, but some of it is too restrictive, and most items could be accomplished through the development review process. ICE/Wentz explained that anything in the document can be amended, as long as it is ultimately accepted by the State by April of 1993. Some of the guidelines were already adopted by LACTC, 4Uh agreed to by the AQMD, and defined and identified in the EIR. Chair/Flamenbaum suggested that the wording be changed to state, "Non residential development of single employer usage of 25,000 square feet, and 50,000 square feet, and so forth.", so that multi suite commercial development would be exempt. C/Crothe suggested that there also be a minimum quantity of employees as well. C/Meyer inquired if both definitions, building area of single employer, plus a number of employees, could be added. ICE/Wentz stated that the employee concept could be added in. If the intent of the Commission is to "loosen" particularly the monitoring and the enforcement elements of this document, then staff will further review those sections and see what can be done to amend them to fit the spirit of the Commission's intent. C/Meyer suggested that the document be more realistically written. Our basic land use policy is contrary to a TDM program. November 23, 1992 Page 14 M ICE/Wentz suggested that a sentence, "The City will,�i identify the reporting requirements for each project as it is approved to assure that it meets the intent of the City's requirements as their projects developed."," be added to the monitoring section. VC/MacBride stated that he is discouraged by all of the requirements. This memorandum is trying to mandate, when we should be trying to encourage. The document should be made more flexible. Chair/Flamenbaum stated that he would like the term, ox the south Coast Air Quality Management District, when appropriate, may take the following action", deleted under Enforcement Actions, because it is not appropriate in a City ordinance. C/Meyer questioned the 'City's authority since business licenses area revenue producer and not a regulatory permit. VC/MacBride suggested that a statement be included, to page 3 of the document, that indicates that the City of Diamond Bar is concerned that all of the visible means of achieving the desirable ends seem to be of a monitoring, auditing, and punitive L1 measure. The City is going to attempt to explore every possibility of encouraging compliance, and stimulating a recognition of the problem, within the means available to us. Chair/Flamenbaum, referring to page 17, item 4.b., suggested that the statement, "plus accrued interest", be added to the second sentence following "...refund to the appellant all deposits,...". Furthermore, if the City loses, then it should also pay those costs. i ICE/Wentz noted that, the Enforcement Fees section is- language that was garnered from several other programs, and can probably be amended. Chair/Flamenbaum also suggested that, since the City Manager has a vested interest in this, the City Manager should not be the person conducting the hearing, but rather a neutral arbitrator. ANNOUNCEMENTS: CDD/DeStefano reported on the following: no Director's actions to report as no Administrative Development Review held tonight; staff received copies of the ETR for the hospital project, and the E Commission will receive copies soon; the draft EIR for the South Pointe project should be available z November 23, 1992 ADJOURNMENT: Pager, 15 around November 30, 1992; and there is a copy of The City Business Retention Plan included in the Commission's packet. Motion was made by C/Meyer, seconded by Chair/Flamenbaum and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to adjourn at 11:20 p.m. Attest • �---'" Bruce Flamenbaum Chairman Res ctiv Gil% lK ! 1 James DeStefan� Secretary