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HomeMy WebLinkAbout5/9/1996CITY OF DIAMOND BAR MINUTES OF THE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION MAY 9, 1996 CALL TO ORDER: VC/Leonard called the meeting to order at 7:11 p.m. at the South Coast Air Quality Managment District (SCAQMD) Hearing Room, 21865 East Copley Drive Diamond Bar, California. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance By Commissioner Tamaya. ROLL CALL: Commissioners: Vice Chair Leonard, Commissioners Nice, Tamaya, and Virginkar Absent: Chair Istik Staff: Deputy Director of Public Works David Liu; Assistant Engineer Rose Manela; Administrative Assistant Tseday Aberra; Sergeant Rawlings; and Recording Secretary Carol Dennis I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: A. Meeting of April 11, 1996. C/Tamaya requested that Line 14, Page 9 be corrected to read as follows: "line of sight clear on at least one side of Fountain Springs..." C/Tamaya made a motion, seconded by C/Nice to approve the April 11, 1996 minutes as amended. Without objections, the motion was so ordered. II. COMMISSION COMMENTS - None VC/Leonard indicated that Chair/Istik requested that Item A. of Old Business Cul-de-sacing Sunset Crossing Road from SR 57 off -ramp to the westerly City limit be placed on the June 13 Traffic and Transportation Commission agenda. The Commission concurred. III. PUBLIC COMMENTS Don Gravdahl, 23988 Minnequa Drive, related a traffic incident he observed in front of his home. He indicated he lives two houses from the corner on Del Sol Lane at Minnequa Drive. He stated that the double yellow centerline striping on his street has improved May 9, 1996 Page 2 T&T commission traffic flow and he would like to have yellow centerline striping the entire length of the street as he originally requested. In addition, he asked that the Traffic and Transportation Commission request a Stop Sign Warrant Study for the intersection of Minnequa Drive and Bower Cascade Place. Red Calkins, 240 Eagle Nest Drive, requested double yellow centerline striping on Prospectors Road from Golden Springs Drive to Sunset Crossing Road. C/Virginkar reiterated the need for the City to have a standardized policy with respect to double yellow centerline striping. Mr. Calkins pointed out that vehicles entering the Union 76 gasoline station in the K -Mart plaza are interfering with the southbound Diamond Bar Boulevard traffic. Vehicles are backed up into the street waiting for traffic to clear out of the service station. DDPW/Liu responded to C/Tamaya that when a safety concern is expressed by a resident of the community the City will conduct an on-site investigation. He indicated his department will schedule an investigation for the Minnequa Drive/Bower Cascade Place intersection. C/Nice stated he agrees with C/Virginkar that the City should have a policy for centerline striping. He requested to know the procedure for initiating a policy. DDPW/Liu responded to C/Nice that CalTrans has strict policies and guidelines for centerline striping. Hubert Wilson, 23649 Country View Drive, stated that with respect to the Grand Avenue improvements, he is concerned about U-turns at peak periods. Traffic in left turn pockets is impeded when a vehicle makes a U- turn. He suggested that U-turns be prohibited during peak traffic hours at the intersections of Grand Avenue at Diamond Bar Boulevard and Grand Avenue at Golden Springs Drive so that traffic can clear out of the left turn lane within the traffic light sequence. May 9, 1996 Page 3 T&T Commission DDPW/Liu responded to C/Virginkar that restricting the U-turn at Grand Avenue and Diamond Bar Boulevard would prevent motorists from turning into the shopping areas and will inconvenience the commercial business traffic. The intersections were widened to two left turn lanes and re -timed to accommodate all traffic movements, including U-turn traffic. The current street improvements have enhanced the turning radius. Ginger Ragazzi, 1335 Rolling Knoll Road, stated she lives in the tract just south of the intersection of Grand Avenue and Diamond Bar Boulevard. She indicated she is unable to make a right turn out of the tract between 4:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. Therefore, if she wishes to proceed toward Chino Hills she must make a left turn out of the tract onto Grand Avenue and a U- turn at Diamond Bar Boulevard. The "No Right Turn" has mitigated the traffic problems in the area and it is imperative that the U-turn be available to the residents. Ms. Ragazzi stated that the light at Grand Avenue and Rolling Knoll Road no longer cycles on demand. Vehicles must sit at a red light even though there is no visible traffic on Grand Avenue. Upon exiting the tract left onto Grand Avenue, she indicated she always encounters a red light at Diamond Bar Boulevard, at Golden Springs Drive and two additional red lights before entering the west bound SR 57. She further stated that in her opinion, in order to more effectively move the Chino Hills traffic through Diamond Bar, the residents are being inconvenienced. Christina Liang, 1459 Rolling Knoll Road, stated that the residents respect the "No Right Turn" sign at Rolling Knoll Road and Grand Avenue. However, the Chino Hills cut -through traffic does not respect the "No Right Turn" restriction. She indicated that she has difficulty completing the U-turn at Grand Avenue and Diamond Bar Boulevard because she encounters northbound Diamond Bar Boulevard traffic making right turns at the traffic signal onto eastbound Grand Avenue without regard for her right-of-way. Ms. Liang stated that many of the homeowners from the tract are attending an open house at Quail Summit Elementary School and cannot attend tonight's workshop. She indicated that in the morning, many motorists do not pay attention to the stop sign close to the school. She requested that a Sheriff Deputy be present at the May 9, 1996 Page 4 T&T Commission school two or three days a week to encourage motorists to obey the stop sign. Toni Lewis, 1504 Highbluff Drive, stated that in her opinion, the school on Quail Summit Drive presents significant traffic problems to the tract. Vehicles are backed up to Diamond Bar Boulevard waiting to use the only entrance to the school for student dropoff. This creates gridlock because there are vehicles proceeding on Quail Summit Drive that attempt to make a left turn into the school which stops traffic in both directions. She recommended a "No Left Turn" be posted on the northbound side of Quail Summit Drive at the school. She indicated that she is also concerned about the traffic hazard presented by the significant backup in the left turn key on Diamond Bar Boulevard at Quail Summit Drive during peak hours. She suggested that a traffic signal be considered for the intersection of Quail Summit Drive at Diamond Bar Boulevard.. C/Nice asked if there is a law which prohibits vehicles on Diamond Bar Boulevard from blocking vehicles entering or exiting Quail Summit Drive. Sgt. Rawlings responded to C/Nice that there is an anti -gridlock law which states that a vehicle cannot enter an intersection unless there is room to proceed through the intersection. Vehicles sitting in a left lane waiting to make a left turn do not constitute a traffic violation. Mark Siegel, 1342 Rolling Knoll Road, stated that the right lane on northbound Diamond Bar Boulevard at Quail Summit Drive is a right -turn only lane. In addition, the intersection of Diamond Bar Boulevard and Quail Summit Drive is clearly marked "Keep Clear". He reiterated that the U-turn at Grand Avenue and Diamond Bar Boulevard is very dangerous because motorists in the northbound right turn lane on Diamond Bar Boulevard do not stop at the red signal. He indicated he would like to see additional enforcement at the intersection during peak hours. Debby O'Connor, 23725 Bower Cascade Place, asked that the City consider removing the 40 MPH sign on the north h side of Sunset Crossing Road between Diamond Bar Boulevard and the SR 57 off -ramp because vehicles cannot reach a speed of 40 MPH in that short distance. 1 r 1 May 9, 1996 Page 5 T&T Commission She stated that the slurry seal that was completed approximately six months ago in her neighborhood is showing tire wear. The damage is very prominent in the cul-de-sac areas. She further stated she agrees with Mr. Gravdahl's request for a stop sign at Bower Cascade Place and Minnequa Drive. In her opinion, the double yellow centerline striping has not been effective in deterring speeding vehicles. DDPW/Liu stated the City has scheduled a meeting with the contractor next week to resolve the slurry seal damage issue. Craig Clute, 21217 Fountain Springs Road, requested the status of the City's speed trailer and its proposed schedule of use. He presented the Commission with the Chino Hills speed hump map. He suggested the Commissioners drive the area and contact Chino Hills for input regarding the effectiveness of their speed hump installations. He indicated he has contacted several cities regarding their policies with respect to "three ton limit" signs on residential streets. He requested that the Commissioners pressure the City Council to grant additional funds for traffic enforcement. He again requested to know why the K -Mart shopping cart racks are still located in the traffic lanes. He stated that in his opinion, K -Mart should have requested guidance from the City regarding the proper placement of the stands. VC/Leonard responded to Mr. Clute that the speed hump policy discussion is slated for the June 13 Traffic and Transportation Commission agenda. AA/Aberra responded to VC/Leonard that the Fire Department has no problem with the current location of the shopping cart racks in front of K -Mart. Mr. Clute indicated that to him, the placement of the shopping cart racks in front of K -Mart do not appear to be proper. In fact, the stands impede the traffic flow. He stated that, in his opinion, the shopping cart racks should be placed in a parking space or on the sidewalk. Hubert Wilson, 23649 Country View Drive, stated that his understanding is that the entire pathway in front May 9, 1996 Page 6 T&T Commission of K -Mart is a fire lane. If it is a fire lane, any fixed structure installed by K -Mart must be pre - approved by the City and the Fire Department. K -Mart should apply for a variance from the City if they wish to keep the shopping cart racks in their current location. He further stated that K -Mart is in violation of the Vehicle Code. VC/Leonard suggested that the matter of the shopping cart racks brought before the Planning Commission for discussion. DDP/Liu responded to VC/Leonard that he will bring the matter to the attention of the City's Planning Department. In addition, staff will convey the citizens' concerns to K -Mart management. Sgt. Rawlings responded to VC/Leonard that the Vehicle Code states a vehicle cannot be parked in a properly marked fire lane. There is no provision for the Sheriff's Department to cite shopping carts. The -- Diamond Bar speed trailer is currently at the Walnut Sheriff's Station awaiting a tow vehicle. VII. PUBLIC MEETING (8:15 p.m. to 10:17 p.m.) A. WORKSHOP #2: Neighborhood Traffic Study for the Rolling Knoll Road/Country View Drive/Quail Summit Drive Area. Joe Foust, Austin -Foust Associates, 2020 N. Tustin Avenue, Santa Ana 92705, summarized the data collected from the residents of the tract and from his study of the area. He indicated that approximately 870 questionnaires were circulated to the residents in the study area. To date, 167 responses have been received from the study area which includes 22 responses from the condominium residents. The greatest percentage of response was from the Country View Drive residents. Seventy-five percent of the residents believe something should be done to mitigate the traffic in the area. The residents responded that they are concerned about the following problems in order of their importance: cut -through traffic and volume of traffic, school traffic, and speeding. He stated the following potential solutions have been suggested: additional enforcement, street closures, traffic signal at IMay 9, 1996 Page 7 T6T Commission Diamond Bar Boulevard and Quail Summit Drive, and speed humps. Mr. Foust cautioned the residents and the Commission that some of the proposed solutions are not a cure-all and may tend to transfer or create additional traffic problems. He estimated that the residents generate approximately 6,000 trips per day, the school generates 500-600 trips per day which is expected to increase to 700 per day, leaving approximately 1,000 cut -through trips per day. The installation of the "No Right Turn" restriction on Rolling Knoll Drive has reduced the cut -through traffic by about 50 percent. Although the closure of Country View Drive would eliminate 200-300 cars per day, it is not a viable option because emergency vehicle response time would increase and negatively impact the residents. In addition, the traffic would be redirected and therefore impact another area of the tract. He indicated that shifting traffic from one residential street to another residential street is never an acceptable strategy. Traffic must be shared or eliminated. Another strategy to improve compliance with the stop sign at Winterwood Lane and Quail Summit Drive is to install a choker. The choker would narrow the street to a single lane in each direction. The negative impact is that the single lane traffic will impede emergency vehicles. A possible alternative solution is to stripe with yellow lines or install botts dots. Mr. Foust stated that he is not prepared to recommend speed humps as a solution. He indicated that he',is aware that a City speed hump policy is under consideration. The Fire Department is concerned that speed humps will increase response time. Although speed humps are effective in reducing speed they create a noise nuisance in the neighborhood. Speed trailers is a popular strategy in controlling speeds on residential streets. Another strategy is the use of rumble strips:, The negative effect of rumble strips is the noise impact to the neighborhood. He indicated that during his career he has witnessed a totalof five rumble strip installations which have remained in place no longer than 30 days. He proposed consideration of a traffic signal at May 9, 1996 Page 8 T&T Commission Diamond Bar Boulevard and Quail Summit Drive. He estimated that the intersection would meet the warrant for a traffic signal. He pointed out that the cost of a traffic signal installation would exceed $100,000 and as an alternative, the City may wish to consider hiring additional enforcement. Mr. Foust stated a second questionnaire will be mailed to the residents requesting their response to the proposed strategies. Mr. Foust stated he is not prepared to make recommendations to the Traffic and Transportation Commission until the study is completed. However, he stated that in consideration of the information received to date, street closure is not a practical alternative for this neighborhood. Mr. Foust responded to VC/Leonard that he believes a traffic signal will be warranted for Diamond Bar Boulevard at Quail Summit Drive in addition to the warranted traffic signal at Diamond Bar Boulevard and Montefino Avenue. Toni Lewis, 1504 Highbluff Drive, thanked the Commission, staff and Mr. Foust for their participation in the traffic study. She pointed out that the most important consideration of the traffic study is the impact to the residents of the tract. She stated her concern that a traffic signal at Diamond Bar Boulevard and Quail Summit Drive in addition to a traffic signal at Diamond Bar Boulevard and Montefino Avenue would encourage more cut -through traffic. She reiterated her concerns about the increased school traffic in the area. She indicated that in her opinion, the school traffic has the greatest impact to traffic in the tract and should be the primary concern of the traffic study. She suggested the Commission study the possibility of restricting school bus traffic to Forest Canyon Drive. She further suggested the public ingress/egress to the school be increased to four lanes. Hubert Wilson, 23649 Country View Drive, stated that before Grand Avenue opened to Chino Hills, 1 May 9, 1996 Page 9 T&T Commission the traffic problems being studied did not exist. The traffic problems have increased, and will continue to increase, as a'direct result of the buildout in Chino Hills and absent corresponding improvements to the area freeway system. Until Chino Hills reopens the CEQA document and addresses mitigation measures for the City of Diamond Bar, temporary measures such as the cul- de -lacing of Country View Drive, will be proposed by the residents. Jerry Hamilton, 1429 Copper Mountain Drive, states he walks the tract daily. He suggested a stop sign at the intersection of Country View Drive and Rolling Knoll Road. Greg Hummel, 23239 Ironhorse Canyon Road, stated he is on the Site Council for Quail Summit Elementary School. He further stated that he served as a member of GPAC. He agrees that the traffic problems have been exacerbated by the Grand Avenue opening and the Chino Hills buildout. He indicated that if the impact of growth in Chino Hills is not recognized and dealt with by the City of Diamond Bar, the City will continue to be at the mercy of Chino Hills. He stated he agrees that a larger overall picture of the Grand Avenue traffic should be taken into consideration with respect to any residential traffic study. He further stated he supports the General Plan Advisory Committee determination that Grand Avenue width and speed should be downsized rather than increased to discourage cut -through traffic. Relative to Quail Summit Elementary School, the traffic problems are critical. He suggested that botts dots .be placed on the stop sign approaches. Ginger Ragazzi, 1335 Rolling Knoll Road, thanked the Commission for the "No Right Turn" sign on Rolling Knoll Road at Grand Avenue. She stated she agrees that stop signs in the tract would help reduce the vehicle speed. She requested consideration of a stop sign at Country View Drive and Quail Summit Drive and a traffic signal at Diamond Bar Boulevard and Quail Summit Drive. She proposed that a driveway from Quail Summit Elementary School onto Forest Canyon Road would May 9, 1996 Page 10 TAT Commission help mitigate the school traffic. She further proposed a vehicle turn -in area at the school to relieve Quail Summit Drive. Mark Siegel, 1342 Rolling Knoll Road, stated the Traffic and Transportation Commission held the first traffic study for the Rolling Knoll Road and Quail Summit Drive in April, 1989. He stated that in his opinion, the traffic problems began when the tract opened which was long before Grand Avenue opened to Chino Hills, and that the only mitigation measure that has been effective is the "No Right Turn" restriction on Rolling Knoll Road at Grand Avenue. Don Lemley, 1387 Rolling Knoll Road, indicated that under no circumstances should the "No Right Turn" restriction be removed from Rolling Knoll Road at Grand Avenue. He stated that in his opinion, the study should concentrate on the speeding vehicles and the school traffic. He further stated that he felt a traffic signal at Quail Summit Drive and Diamond Bar Boulevard would encourage cut -through traffic. Audrey Hamilton, 1429 Copper Mountain Drive, stated she is fortunate to live on a cul-de-sac. She is concerned about the traffic in the neighborhood because Quail Summit Drive is the only access to her street. She requested that the City consider initiating a procedure of photographing traffic violator's license plates with a portable unit that could be moved to various intersections throughout the community. Mr. Siegel stated that a radar camera demonstration was conducted in 1991. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department does not support this method of enforcement because of the legal issues involved. Wanda Tanaka, 23805 Country View Drive, stated that in August, 1995, the residents of the tract proposed a neighborhood traffic study. The residents are very aware that the entire City has a problem of cut -through and speeding traffic. She indicated she would prefer an informal May 9, 1996 Page 11 T&T Commission workshop with discussion between the residents and the Commission about what might be done to mitigate the traffic concerns. She requested that the Commission consider stop signs and speed humps in lieu of the noise generating botts dots. Mr. Foust responded to Ms. Tanaka that if he gave the impression that nothing can be done to mitigate the traffic problems in her tract, that is the wrong impression. He reiterated that his firm will be presenting mitigation recommendations at the June 13 Workshop. He indicated he intended to convey that some of the more dramatic traffic diverters such as street closures are probably not realistic solutions. The real problem in the area relates to speeding and the recommendations will be based upon the resident's input. He indicated that it has become abundantly clear to him during this meeting that the Quail Summit Elementary School traffic is one of the more serious problems in the neighborhood. VC/Leonard responded to Mr. Hamilton that she requested information from staff regarding the proposed Tonner Canyon Road. Ms. Hamilton asked if Quail Summit Elementary School could incorporate off street loading/unloading area in its improvement plans. Mr. Clute stated he anticipates the SR 57/SR 60 improvements will improve the traffic flow through the City. He asked how the traffic light at Montefino Avenue and Diamond Bar Boulevard will effect the intersection at Quail Summit Drive and Diamond Bar Boulevard. He indicated that traffic signals are expensive and tend to draw traffic to the site. He stated that in his opinion, there should be a 24 hour "No Right Turn" restriction on Rolling Knoll Road at Grand Avenue because of the northerly Grand Avenue sight restriction. He cautioned the residents that stop signs do not deter speeding vehicles. He suggested the City consider street chokers as a deterent to speeding vehicles. Mr. Foust responded to Mr. Clute that a diagonal May 9, 1996 Page 12 T&T Commission diverter generally involves a four-way intersection and there are very few four-way intersections in the study area which reduces the opportunity for installation. C/Nice suggested that consideration be given to the placement of stop signs in the study area. Mr. Foust responded to C/Nice that the City does not have the luxury of determining the speed on a major through street. The California Vehicle Code is explicit in stating the procedure that must be followed with regard to setting speed limits. The prevailing speed limit set by 85% of the vehicles is rounded to within five miles per hour and the result becomes the posted speed limit. Minor variations apply to this formula such as if there happens to be an unusually high accident rate based upon a high rate of speed the speed of the street can be reduced. However, the Vehicle Code permits very little latitude with respect to establishing a speed limit. A posted speed limit of 25 MPH on Grand Avenue could not be enforced. Responding to C/Tamaya, Mr. Foust stated that mitigation measures such as stop signs and speed humps tend to reduce the volume of traffic by approximately five percent. Stop signs and speed humps tend to reduce vehicle speeds by about five miles per hour which gives residents the feeling that the volume of traffic is less. C/Tamaya stated the idea of mitigation measures is to discourage traffic in the neighborhood. Mr. Foust responded to C/Tamaya that commuters avoid traffic diverters to reduce travel time. Diverters reduce the neighborhood traffic by about five to ten percent. Mr. Foust responded to C/Tamaya that it is possible to synchronize the traffic signals at Diamond Bar Boulevard and Montefino Avenue and at Diamond Bar Boulevard and Quail Summit Drive. However, traffic signals tend to attract traffic. C/Tamaya requested the status of the Montefino Avenue at Diamond Bar Boulevard traffic signal. DDP/Liu responded to C/Tamaya that the location is 1 i May 9, 1996 Page 13 T&T Commission on the Capital Improvement Project wish list. He indicated the Montefino Avenue at Diamond Bar Boulevard traffic signal was warranted as a result of a request from the residents of the condominium on the east side of Diamond Bar Boulevard at Montefino Avenue. C/Virginkar commended Mr. Foust for his thorough and professional presentations. Mr. Foust responded to C/Virginkar that he would not recommend trading the traffic signal at Montefino Avenue and Diamond Bar Boulevard for a traffic signal at Quail, Summit Drive and Diamond Bar Boulevard. He indicated that he will be making specific recommendations for strategies to address the Country View Drive cul-de-sacing request. He reiterated that he does not advocate the cul-de-sacing of Country View Drive. C/Virginkar asked Mr. Foust if he would consider proposing a stop sign with striping at Deer Crossing Drive and Country View Drive. Mr. Foust responded that serious consideration will be given to such a proposal. DDPW/Liu responded to Mr. Wilson that Diamond Bar has no opportunity for input with respect to the buildout scheduling for Chino Hills. Mr. Wilson requested that the City pursue mitigation measures with the City of Chino Hills to relieve the Chino Hills traffic impact on the City of Diamond Bar. He stated that as a last resort he is prepared to file an injunction with the court. VC/Leonard invited the residents to attend the June 13 Traffic and Transportation Commission meeting and listen to Mr. Foust's presentation before reaching any conclusions. C/Virginkar requested that Mr. Foust address trading the Montefino Avenue at Diamond Bar Boulevard traffic signal for a traffic signal at Quail Summit Drive and Diamond Bar Boulevard in i May 9, 1996 Page 14 T&T commission his June 13 presentation. Mr. Hamilton cautioned that a traffic signal at Quail Summit Drive and Diamond Bar Boulevard might substantially increase the intersection's 3500 per day vehicle count. Mr. Clute again asked if the traffic signal at Montefino Avenue and Diamond Bar Boulevard would allow additional time for vehicles to exit Quail Summit Drive onto Diamond Bar Boulevard. Mr. Foust stated his firm will look at the situation and report its findings on June 13. VC/Leonard thanked the residents for their participation in the workshop and invited them to return on June 13 for Workshop #3. V. OLD BUSINESS: A. Walnut Valley and Pomona Unified School Districts' Policy Regarding Student Pick-up/Drop-off locations at Diamond Bar Schools. DDPW/Liu stated that staff previously invited the Walnut Valley and Pomona Unified School Districts to participate in discussions regarding the student pick-up/drop-off locations at Diamond Bar schools. Staff has determined that a professional traffic consultant should be engaged by the City to provide input with respect to possible mitigation measures. The City has requested and received two fee proposals. The fees range from $7,500 to $17,000 depending on the number of schools in each district. Staff recommends that the City request funding for the study from the school districts. C/Nice asked if the City's efforts would be a duplication of the Pomona Unified School District studies. DDPW/Liu responded to C/Nice that the schools' studies represent only the needs of the schools and does not incorporate the impacts to the City's streets. Sgt. Rawlings responded to Clyde Evans, Director of Transportation, Walnut Valley Unified School May 9, 1996 Page 15 T&T Commission District, that the City of Walnut's Traffic Engineer conducted a study which resulted in recommendations for minor traffic changes, request for LA County Sheriff's educational programs and request for enforcement. Responding to VC/Leonard, Sgt. Rawlings stated the school district made minor physical changes such as street markings for loading and unloading zones. Debby O'Connor, 23725 Bower Cascade Place, stated she is on the Diamond Point Elementary School Safety Committee. Traffic is a problem 15 minutes prior to the beginning of the daily school session and 15 minutes following the end of the school session. She requested a left turn signal at Golden Springs Drive and Diamond Bar Boulevard to assist the traffic flow around Lorbeer Middle School. She indicated the same 15 minute window of problems exist at Lorbeer Middle School prior to the opening session and following the closing session. The safety committee has studied the safety issues at Diamond Point Elementary School for the past seven years. Parents ignore the posted "No Loading/Unloading" signs. She suggested that the City participate in the promotion of "parent awareness". She stated that when law enforcement is present there are no traffic problems. However, law enforcement is not always available. She suggested that the presence of the Community Patrol might deter offenders. Sgt. Rawlings responded to VC/Leonard that a request could be made to the Supervisor of the Sheriff's Department requesting Community Patrol participation as a temporary safety measure. C/Nice suggested that a school staff person be utilized for the two 15 minute periods. Ms. O'Connor stated she feels nothing will be accomplished by conducting a study. She indicated that in her opinion, the problems are created by parents who disregard the safety standards set by the schools. A staff person does not prevent parents double parking in the Loading Zone and May 9, 1996 Page 16 T&T Commission leaving their cars to retrieve their children. Mr. Clute stated that other schools in the district experience different problems. He encouraged the school districts to obtain authority for their personnel to issue citations. He indicated he is concerned about the potential liability with respect to school staff directing traffic. He asked that the Commission recommend the study. VC/Leonard stated that Quail Summit Elementary School is conducting parent education. C/Tamaya made a motion, seconded by C/Nice to accept staff's recommendation. C/Virginkar stated he has a problem with the motion because if the school districts refuse to pay for the study nothing has been accomplished. C/Nice suggested that staff request copies of the school district studies for review prior to requesting the school districts to pay for additional studies. DDPW/Liu responded to C/Nice that the information forwarded to staff by the Pomona Unified School District was the result of responses to a questionnaire. Pomona Unified School District's consultant is not a traffic consultant. All of the issues must be investigated by staff prior to recommending mitigation measures which involve compromises between the City and the school districts on a City-wide basis. VC/Leonard stated that each school has unique problems and opportunities and that the traffic movement considerations should be investigated on a City-wide basis. C/Nice asked what the next step would be if the school districts declined to contribute to the full cost of the study. DDPW/Liu stated that if the school districts decline the offer, the item can be forwarded to May 9, 1996 Page 17 T&T Commission the City Council for funding consideration. C/Tamaya requested to know why the Traffic and Transportation Commission, rather than the City Council, is being asked to request the school districts to contribute to the full cost of the study. C/Nice suggested a City Council request would carry more weight than a Traffic and Transportation Commission request. He recommended that the Commission concur with staff's recommendation to request the school districts contribute the full cost of the study and that the request for funds should be made by the City Council. C/Tamaya stated that it would seem to be more appropriate for the Traffic and Transportation Commission to determine if the study is warranted and pass the recommendation to the City Council for the City Council to determine how the study would be financed. C/Tamaya amended his motion to state that the Traffic and Transportation Commission is in favor of the study. The recommendation is being forwarded to the City Council in order that the Council may determine whether to proceed with the study and how it will be financed. C/Nice seconded the amended motion. The motion was approved 4-0 with the following roll call: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: NOES: COMMISSIONERS: ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Tamaya, Nice, Virginkar, VC/Leonard None None Chair/Istik C. Double Yellow Centerline Striping on Bower Cascade Place, Decorah Road, Minnequa Drive, Del Sol Lane, and El Encino Drive. AA/Aberra stated that staff was requested to bring this matter before the Commission. This item was previously discussed by the Traffic and Transportation Commission in August and October, May 9, 1996 Page 18 T&T Commission 1995. DDPW/Liu read from the CalTrans established principles of pavement markings. Ms. O'Connor stated this item was placed on the agenda in response to her request. She indicated that she received a letter from the City dated May 3 asking her to attend tonight's meeting. She further indicated that the City's letter did not answer any of her questions. She stated she left DDPW/Liu a private message on City On -Line April 23 asking when she would receive a response to her letter. Although one of the Commissioners shared his staff report with her tonight, she feels it would have been proper for the City staff to at least provide her with a copy of the staff report. Since the staff report does not address all of her concerns she would like to receive a direct response to the questions raised in her letter of March 28, 1996. She stated that Mr. Foust addressed her question of why a double yellow line has been placed on her street. She indicated she agrees with Mr. Foust that the striping causes her street to "look like a boulevard". DDPW/Liu apologized to Ms. O'Connor for the lack of a formal response from staff. He requested the item be placed on the June 13 agenda and staff will forward a formal response to Ms. O'Connor prior to that meeting. C/Tamaya stated he shared his staff report with his neighbor, Ms. O'Connor. He further stated that in his opinion, any resident who makes a written request to the City is entitled to a written response. Mr. Gravdahl has appeared before the Commission twice to reiterate his original request for the centerline to be extended the full length of Minnequa Drive to Del Sol Lane to be consistent. C/Tamaya indicated that he agrees with Mr. Gravdahl that the City should be consistent. However, he stated he is not certain what type of line should be placed on the street.' He further stated his concerns about whether the neighborhood residents were consulted, whether the centerline double striping is effective, and May 9, 1996 Page 19 T&T Commission whether the striping effects property values. He indicated that Ms. O'Connor's letter addresses her concerns about the effect of -the striping on property values. However, staff's report does not comment on this concern. one of the primary concerns of the Commission is "safety". However, in his opinion, the Commission should take into account the effect of potential mitigation measures on property owners, neighborhoods, and property values. He indicated that he has personally observed that the double yellow centerline striping is not solving the traffic problems on the street. C/Tamaya stated that he would prefer that the City adopt a uniform policy for the entire community and that the residents be contacted for their input during the investigation period. He further stated that he does not believe this item should die with a recommended action of "Receive and file this report". Additional requests for double yellow centerlines on other streets in the community. Therefore, the issue is not resolved. He reiterated that he does not have a problem with centerlines on streets to improve traffic flow. He does, however, have a problem about whether the mitigation measure might be too restrictive. He stated he is in favor of working toward the adoption of a uniform policy. C/Nice stated he agrees with C/Tamaya's comments. He asked staff to survey the neighborhood regarding the double yellow centerline striping. He further stated that the City needs to move forward to adopt a uniform policy. VC/Leonard indicated she agrees that the City needs to adopt uniform policies for striping, speed humps, speed bumps, botts dots, etc. She stated her displeasure with the recommended action of "Receive and file this report" because, in her opinion, this item requires further action. She further stated she concurs with C/Nice's request for a neighborhood survey as the next course of action. She requested the item be agendized for June or July of 1996. May 9, 1996 Page 20 T&T Commission C/Virginkar stated he is confused about the differences of the double yellow centerline striping and the solid yellow line opposed to the dotted yellow line on various streets throughout the community and not on other street throughout the community. DDPW/Liu responded to C/Virginkar that certain streets were striped under the authority of Los Angeles County prior to City incorporation. The State of California has established guidelines for pavement markings. Ms. O'Connor referred to the staff report which states that centerline striping is supplemented with 25 MPH signs and curvature signs. The only street that displays those two signs is Decorah Road. Bower Cascade Place, Del Sol Lane, Minnequa Drive, El Encino Drive and Del Sol Lane do not have any speed limit signs or curvature signs. She indicated she would have preferred signage over striping on her street. In her opinion, the striping has not been effective and the only viable option is enforcement. Mr. Clute stated his impression that the City was working toward formulating and adopting a striping policy and he would like to see the Commission move forward with the process. He indicated the double yellow centerline striping has not been effective in stopping speeding vehicles in his neighborhood. C/Tamaya made a motion, seconded by C/Virginkar directing staff to prepare a Centerline Striping draft policy for the Commission's review and discussion for the July 11, 1996 Traffic and Transportation Commission agenda. In addition, staff is requested to conduct a residential survey of the Bower Cascade Place/Minnequa Drive area that has been striped; staff is to prepare a list of alternative remedies to centerline striping, and staff is to prepare a response to Mr. Gravdahl's original request for consistency in, having a centerline along the entire length of Minnequa Drive. The motion was carried 4-0 with the following roll call: May 9, 1996 Page 21 AYES: COMMISSIONERS: NOES: COMMISSIONERS: ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: VII. NEW BUSINESS - None T&T Commission Tamaya, Virginkar, Nice, VC/Leonard None None Chair/Istik VIII. STATUS OF PREVIOUS ACTION ITEMS: DDPW/Liu, responding to a question from C/Tamaya, stated the City's Public Works Department investigated and found the Grand Avenue at Summitridge Drive signal timing to be appropriate. IX. ITEMS FROM COMMISSIONERS: VC/Leonard conveyed Chair/Istik's request for a joint meeting between the Commission and the City Council to discuss the Commission's relationship to the Council as an advisory body, and how to better coordinate items with staff. The Commission concurred. X. ITEMS FROM STAFF: A. Monthly Traffic Enforcement Update: April, 1996. Sgt Rawlings reported no fatal accidents in April, 11 injury accidents, 41 non -injury, 5 DUI, 1 pedestrian collision, 1 bicycle collision, 408 radar citations, 510 hazardous citations, 48 non -hazardous citations and 132 parking violations. The April enforcement index is 46.8%. C. Future Agenda Itemms. 1) Workshop #3: Neighborhood Traffic Study for the Rolling Knoll Road/Country View Drive/Quail Summit Drive Area. 2) Speed hump policy discussion 3) Street striping policy discussion XI. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS - None May 9, 1996 Page 22 T&T Commission XI. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to conduct, C/Nice made a motion, seconded by C/Tamaya to adjourn the meeting at 11:30 p.m. to June 13, 1996. There being no objections, the motion was so ordered. Respectfully, ,y Nivid-G.--Lill Secretary Attest: DAW a/ J cw Leonard V c Chairman