HomeMy WebLinkAbout9/14/1995CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MINUTES OF THE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 14, 1995
CALL TO ORDER:
Chair Istik called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. at the South
Coast Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD) Hearing Room,
21865 East Copley Drive, Diamond Bar, California.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance By Commissioner
Ortiz.
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners: Chair Istik, Ortiz, Gravdahl, Virginkar
Absent: Vice -Chair Leonard
Staff: Deputy Director of Public Works, David Liu;
Administrative Assistant, Tseday Aberra;
Sergeant Rawlings; and Recording Secretary,
Carol Dennis
I. SWEARING-IN:
A. Swearing-in of Traffic and Transportation Commissioner
Arun Virginkar.
City Clerk Lynda Burgess administered the oath of
office to Commissioner Arun Virginkar.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
A. Meeting of July 13, 1995. Meeting of August 10, 1995.
A motion was made by C/Gravdahl, seconded by C/Ortiz to
table the approval of minutes of July 13, 1995 and
August 10, 1995 to the October 12, 1995 meeting.
Without objection, the motion was so ordered.
III. COMMISSION COMMENTS:
C/Ortiz requested an updated City Council and City
Commissions' roster.
C/Ortiz stated he received a letter from Ted Poellnitz, 411
Rancheria Road. Mr. Poellnitz is concerned that the
intersection of Rancheria Road and Golden Springs Drive is
not listed for traffic signal warrant study and has not been
reconstructed to accommodate handicap access ramps.
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C/Ortiz stated he is aware of a number of accidents at the
intersection of Cold Spring Lane and Diamond Bar Boulevard.
He suggested a study of the intersection and restriction of
U-turns. He noted an accident at the intersection of
Mountain Laurel Way and Diamond Bar Boulevard and suggested
a restriction of U-turns may be in order.
Chair/Istik welcomed Commissioner Virginkar to the Traffic
and Transportation Commission.
C/Virginkar stated he is honored to serve on the Traffic and
Transportation Commission and assist the residents of
Diamond Bar. He indicated he lives on Coyote Springs Drive
behind Quail Summit Elementary School and he is a business
owner. He further stated he views his responsibilities on
the Commission as the City's safety concerns, comfort, ease
of traffic and pedestrian movement, and the enhancement of
the City's image.
IV. PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Oscar Law, 21511 Pathfinder Road, stated he lives diagonally
from Diamond Bar High School on a small cul-de-sac where
there is barely space for three vehicles to travel in the
same or opposite direction. When the high school was built,
the residents petitioned Mr. Schabarum to have one side of
the street tagged as "One Hour Parking" for the hours of
7:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. on school days. He indicated he has
had difficulty getting the Sheriff's Department to respond
in a timely fashion to his request to tag a vehicle that was
blocking his driveway.
Mr. Law stated he would like to have the Traffic and
Transportation Commission work with the Parks and Recreation
Commission so that when the City puts in a sidewalk there
will be no need to rework the area by requesting additional
contingency money. He further stated that, in his opinion,
the City has a need for sidewalks on Diamond Bar Boulevard
and Brea Canyon Road. He indicated he would like the
Commission to propose a resolution to the City Council that
any project bid by the City must be passed by all
Commissions including the Parks and Recreation Commission
prior to City Council approval. In his opinion, the City
should conduct itself in a fashion similar to that of
private business in order to avoid contingencies.
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C/Ortiz stated he agrees with Mr. Law. In addition, he
would like to have sidewalk lighting included in the agenda.
Chair/Istik stated that, according to State law, the City is
required to award contracts to the lowest responsible
bidder.
C/Gravdahl stated that, instead of adding a 15 percent
overrun to a job, it would be preferable to let the bid and
determine whether there may be concerns which might increase
the bid.
Chair/Istik stated that a precise amount of money could be
let only for the bid amount. Regarding any monies needed
for additional work, the contract could be halted until
additional funds are appropriated by the City Council.
C/Virginkar asked if the City's budget is public.
Chair/Istik responded that the budget is reviewed,
discussed, and voted in at a public meeting.
DDPW/Liu responded to C/Virginkar that Mr. Law has been
expressing his concerns to the City Council. With respect
to Public Works contracts the City follows the Public
Contract Code. Additionally, the "green book" allows a 25
percent overage of the contract price. Typically, the City
recommends a contingency of 10 to 15 percent for each
project brought before the City Council. The percentage of
contingency depends on types of contracts (i.e. lump sum vs.
unit price), nature and complexity of the project.
DDPW/Liu stated that residents in attendance for this
meeting have requested that Item VI. B., Overnight Parking,
be moved forward on the agenda. In addition, there are
residents who wish to be heard with respect to agenda Item
V. B.. He recommended the Commission begin with Item V. B.,
followed by Item VI. B., and proceed with the balance of the
agenda in order. Without objection, the Commission
concurred.
V. CONSENT CALENDAR:
B. Request to install "Do Not Block Intersection" pavement
marking on eastbound Golden Springs Drive at Gona
' court.
AA/Aberra stated that staff, based on the site
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investigation/observations conducted on August 31, 1995
and September 5, 1995, recommends the request be denied
at this time. Furthermore, Golden Springs Drive will
be resurfaced during fiscal year 1996-1997. This
request will be considered during the resurfacing
phase.
Chair/Istick declared the public hearing open.
Sandy Miller, 1111 S. Loxley Place, stated she is a
member of the board of directors of Cross Keys
Association and a Registered Engineer for the States of
California and Nevada. She indicated she is a
Consulting Engineer for a traffic and transportation
engineering firm located in Diamond Bar. She stated
she was asked to represent the association as their
spokesperson. She further stated the association
requests the "Do Not Block Intersection" pavement
markings at the intersection. During peak period a.m.
and p.m. conditions, traffic blocks the intersection
making it extremely difficult to enter and leave the
complex. This traffic condition also occurs during
overloads of the SR 60 Freeway. She indicated it is
not unusual for the residents to experience several
minutes of delay. The residents also believe that the
pavement markings, together with the street signs that
are currently in place, will improve safety and reduce
accidents and fuel consumption.
Nicki Dolce, Gona Court, stated there is considerable
congestion in the area. In spite of the current street
signs, motorists move through the right -turn lane
without yielding. She noted several accidents at the
location including an accident in which her husband was
involved.
Richard Smiley, 1002 Gona Court, stated he endorses the
previous speakers. He further stated he owns Diamond
Bar Management Services, management agency for Cross
Keys Association and is a resident of the project. He
indicated the association could wait for the
resurfacing. However, the problems exist now and the
only missing ingredient is the pavement markings. It
is a very congested area and motorists do not
voluntarily yield to the traffic entering and leaving
the complex. Therefore, with the consideration of
minimal expense for painting, the residents would like
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to see this measure of solution initiated immediately.
While it will not solve the problems, it is an interim
solution toward reducing the problems until the street
resurfacing is completed. He requested the Commission
give prime consideration to this interim solution.
Oscar Law stated he was told by DDPW/Liu that the
pavement markings would cost the City approximately
$500. He further commented that this money will not
come out of the City's General Fund. It can come from
Proposition A or B monies. Mr. Law encouraged the
Commission to recommend to the City Council that this
action be taken immediately.
Martha Bruske, 600 South Great Bend Drive, recommended
that immediate action be taken on the residents'
request. In her opinion, the request is very valid.
Steve Nice, Rising Star Drive, stated he is shocked
that the City Hall of Diamond Bar would have an
opportunity to assist a group of homeowners at such a
small expense and decide to wait a year. He requested
the Commission help the residents by recommending
immediate action.
Chair/Istik declared the public meeting closed.
C/Gravdahl stated he agrees with the speakers that the
pavement should be painted as soon as possible.
C/Ortiz stated he agrees that action should be taken
immediately.
C/Virginkar stated his first impression was to wait
until next year. After listening to the residents, he
concurs that action should be taken immediately.
Chair/Istik stated his experience has been to save the
"Do Not Block Intersection" areas for critical service
areas such as fire stations. The law prohibits the
blocking of intersections.
Sgt. Rawlings responded to Chair/Istik that he would
need to check the code to determine if enforcement is
' possible with the current street signage in place.
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DDPW/Liu responded to Chair Istik that the pavement
painting would complement the current signage and give
approaching motorists additional visibility.
In response to C/Virginkar, Chair/Istik stated that it
is likely the intersection would not qualify for a
traffic warrant study because of its proximity to the
freeway on and off -ramp. The volume of traffic would
be very low because it is a cul-de-sac.
A motion was made by C/Ortiz and seconded by C/Gravdahl
to recommend immediate action to install a "Do Not
Block Intersection" pavement marking on eastbound
Golden Springs Drive at Gona Court. The motion was
approved 4-0 with the following roll call:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Ortiz, Gravdahl,
Virginkar, Chair/Istik
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Leonard
VI. OLD BUSINESS:
B. Overnight Parking.
Chair/Istik declared the public meeting open.
Al Rumpilla, 23958 Golden Springs Drive, recommended that
the Traffic and Transportation Commission table this agenda
item. If this Commission feels it needs to make a
recommendation to the City Council, the recommendation
should be that there is no good reason to change the
ordinance at this time or in the future. He stated he
cannot understand why Mr. Todd Chavers requested that this
item be added to the agenda when he is no longer a member of
this community. Mr. Chavers knows that this is and always
has been an issue that divides this City. Mr. Rumpilla
indicated he had spoken to this Commission in October, 1991
regarding this issue. There were approximately 200 people
in attendance who supported his position. In addition, he
stated he had turned in a petition with 300 signatures which
opposed "no overnight parking". He presented a copy of the
petition containing 148 signatures. He stated the other 152 -'
signatures are on a document which the City has in its
possession. When he requested a copy of the original
document, he received only the portion with the 148
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signatures. He also presented a tape copy of the 1991
meeting during which the attendees spoke in opposition to
"no overnight parking".
Mr. Rumpilla submitted three letters in opposition to the
"no overnight parking" ordinance: One from City Council
candidate, Carol Herrera; the second letter from City
Council candidate, Jim Paul, and the third letter from
Evelyn Kuida. In addition, he stated Red Calkins requested
that his name be entered into the record as opposing "no
overnight parking". Mr. Rumpilla referred the Commission to
the parking prohibitions currently in effect. He recited
vehicle codes which are enforceable and, in his opinion,
address all of the adverse situations voiced by those in
favor of a "no overnight parking" ordinance. Mr. Rumpilla
stated he believes there are a minimum of 6,000 vehicles
parked on the streets of Diamond Bar each night. He
questioned where these vehicles would be parked if the City
adopted a "no overnight parking" ordinance.
Mr. Rumpilla stated that many cities have adopted a permit
system. In order to qualify for a permit, a property owner
is subject to inspection of their garage area which must
accommodate two vehicles. In addition, the driveway area
must accommodate two additional vehicles. Upon compliance,
one permit for a fifth vehicle will be issued.
Mr. Rumpilla stated that if the "no overnight parking"
ordinance is enacted, the City could suffer loss of revenue
from recreation vehicle owners. He further stated that he
was told by a District Attorney that recreational vehicles
fall under the "grandfather" or "sunset" clause and owners
would not be forced to remove their vehicles.
Mr. Rumpilla presented additional letters as evidence of
opposition to "no overnight parking" from Hugh Wheeler, and
Dixie and Fred Martinez.
Mr. Rumpilla concluded by advising the Commission that this
matter should not be brought before the City Council during
an election period. He recommended that the Traffic and
Transportation Commission recommend no action should be
taken.
Chair/Istik noted 10 audience members opposed to "no
overnight parking". He stated he does not consider agenda
items threatening. He views the items as an opportunity for
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discussion in a public forum.
Martha Bruske stated she favors a ban on,overnight parking.
She indicated she felt that the City had'not given
sufficient notice of this agenda item. Poor communication
is one of the biggest problems in Diamond Bar. In her
opinion, this issue is important and perhaps should go to a
vote of the people. Prior to making a recommendation, the
Commission should provide comparative statistics and data
from other cities for consideration. She stated she
believes the City's staff has a tendency to obtain data from
E1 Monte. She further stated Diamond Bar is not E1 Monte
and does not aspire to be El Monte. The data should come
from Claremont, LaVerne and Bradbury. People used to think
Diamond Bar was an upscale community. A little driving
around will tell you that Diamond Bar should take a look at
what is occurring.in the City. The data that staff collects
should include procedures for making exceptions such as
accommodating occasional overnight guests. Crime statistics
should be collected as a part of this study because she
feels that if there are not a lot of cars on the streets at
night, crime is reduced. It appears the Commission does not
have enough information to proceed. In addition, there has
not been sufficient community input.
Ms. Bruske stated the residents who cannot park their
vehicles in their garages because they are filled with
miscellaneous items are not victims, they are perpetrators.
The City suffers because buildings have been built without
mandating adequate parking. She indicated that people have
a tendency to leave their driveway areas clear and park
their vehicles on the street, sometimes in front of their
neighbor's house. In her opinion, the garage and the
driveway belong to the property owner. It is the property
owner's responsibility to maintain these areas as described
by City standards. The street is owned and maintained by
all taxpayers. A restriction on parking is not an
infringement of rights. Emergency vehicles can travel more
safely and rapidly, and emergency personnel can spot curb
numbers more easily and function more effectively with an
uncluttered working area. She stated that in her 20 years
of residency which includes six years of Cityhood, she has
watched her neighborhood systematically deteriorated. In
fact, she has watched entire sections of the City
deteriorated. She challenged everyone present to visit the
area bounded by Prospectors Road, Golden Springs Drive,
Diamond Bar Boulevard and the SR 60 Freeway around 7:30 p.m.
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to 8:00 a.m. She stated the area is a big -rig parking lot.
She referred to the dead-end area of Gentle Springs Lane
west of Diamond Bar Boulevard as a potentially hazardous
area.
Oscar Law stated he is opposed to the ban on no -overnight
parking. The current ordinances respond adequately to
improper parking of vehicles and he sees no reason to change
the law. He urged the Commission to table the matter.
Steve Nice referred the Commission to a letter from City
Council candidate Don Schad in opposition to the ban on no
overnight parking. Mr. Nice stated that when Diamond Bar
was built, the developers built homes which envisioned
street parking. He reiterated that in today's economy,
children return home to live with their parents. Most
properties have two car garages and, therefore, there are
more cars than available space. Charging for parking
permits is another method of taxing the citizens of Diamond
Bar. He suggested that the Commission table the issue and
not bring the matter back to the public.
DDPW/Liu responded to C/Ortiz that this matter was requested
by C/Chavers with the Commission's concurrence. C/Chavers
felt that the City has lost some of its appeal because of
Ms. Bruske asked the Commissioners to take advantage of the
opportunity presented to them to restore City pride. She
encouraged them to take the first step and ban overnight
parking on the City's streets.
Frank Dursa stated that, in his view, a ban on overnight
parking is the taking of the citizen's rights. He reminded
the Commission about the negative responses by the citizens
in October, 1991 to the proposed ban.
Sgt. Rawlings responded to Frank Dursa that the Sheriff's
Department does not enforce the "no -overnight parking" in
the County areas.
Nancy Villalobos, a Diamond Bar citizen, stated she is a 15 -
year resident. She further stated she prefers the City make
no changes to the parking ordinance. She perceives the
proposed ban on overnight parking to be a form of control.
In her opinion, it would add an additional financial burden
and inconvenience to all recreational and sports vehicle
owners. She recommended the Commission table the matter.
Oscar Law stated he is opposed to the ban on no -overnight
parking. The current ordinances respond adequately to
improper parking of vehicles and he sees no reason to change
the law. He urged the Commission to table the matter.
Steve Nice referred the Commission to a letter from City
Council candidate Don Schad in opposition to the ban on no
overnight parking. Mr. Nice stated that when Diamond Bar
was built, the developers built homes which envisioned
street parking. He reiterated that in today's economy,
children return home to live with their parents. Most
properties have two car garages and, therefore, there are
more cars than available space. Charging for parking
permits is another method of taxing the citizens of Diamond
Bar. He suggested that the Commission table the issue and
not bring the matter back to the public.
DDPW/Liu responded to C/Ortiz that this matter was requested
by C/Chavers with the Commission's concurrence. C/Chavers
felt that the City has lost some of its appeal because of
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the abuse of the street parking. It was important to
provide a public firum such as the Traffic and
Transportation Commission for public consideration.
C/Ortiz stated that the current laws should be enforced to
control the situation.
A motion was made by C/Ortiz and seconded by C/Gravdahl to
table Item VI B. Overnight Parking.
Chair/Istik stated that he has mixed feelings on this item.
The City streets were originally planned to carry traffic
and to accommodate some parking. C/Chavers had commented
that some people abuse the privilege. Chair/Istik indicated
he does not view this as an attempt for the City to generate
revenue. In his opinion, this would be an attempt to
maintain greater sight distance. He cited an instance in
which his neighbor, upon backing his motorcycle out of his
driveway into the street, was hit and killed by an oncoming
vehicle. The point could be made that if cars were not
parked on the street, he might have seen and been seen by
the approaching motorist. This may or may not be the case.
However, with more cars on the street, less sight distance
is available. In his opinion, most drivers do not drive
slower on residential streets when there are cars parked on
the street and the site distance is reduced. He stated
that, as an engineer, he has safety concerns. He agrees
that other city's policies should be investigated. He
stated that the matter is best tabled until after November
so that the issue is not politicized. He indicated he would
support the motion that is on the table.
C/Gravdahl stated he has called the Sherrif's Department
regarding trailers illegally parked on his street. Although
the trailers were ticketed, they were not moved and no
further action was taken. He indicated that a clean-up of
illegally parked trailers and vehicles would make a
significant difference in the street parking.
Chair/Istik stated that some areas of the City do not
benefit from street sweeping because of the vehicles parked
on the streets.
The motion was passed 3-1 with the following roll call:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Ortiz, Gravdahl, Chair/Istik
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
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ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: Virginkar
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: VC/Leonard
V. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued):
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A. Request to install a crosswalk on Copley Drive adjacent
to entrance to Diamond Bar City Hall. (Continued from
August 10, 1995.)
DDPW/Liu stated staff recommends, based upon safety
concerns and numerous studies conducted regarding the
request, that the Traffic and Transportation Commission
deny the request to install a crosswalk on Copley Drive
adjacent to the driveway entrance to City Hall. This
request was brought to City Hall by a senior citizen
who has difficulty crossing Copley Drive from the bus
service drop point to City Hall and is very concerned
for her safety. She makes this bus, trip each month to
obtain her subsidized bus passes. DDPW/Liu indicated
that staff spoke with the citizen regarding the use of
the Dial -A -Cab service as an alternative.
C/Gravdahl suggested that the management of the complex
on Highland Valley Road could be authorized by the City
to offer transit tickets for sale at their location
since many residents of the senior citizens complex use
transit services. This would avoid the necessity of
having senior citizens making a monthly trek to City
Hall to complete their purchases.
DDPW/Liu responded to C/Gravdahl that staff will
consider his recommendation as an option. A second
option is to have staff visit the complex during the
monthly sale period.
C/Gravdahl stated his proposed recommendation may
result in increased sales of transit tickets.
C/Virginkar stated that, rather than denying the
request, he would like to have staff monitor the street
to determine the number of pedestrian crossings and
report back in six months. In his opinion, the issue
is whether pedestrians can safely cross Copley Drive.
C/Gravdahl suggested a crosswalk gives a false sense of
security and increases the potential for accidents.
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C/Virginkar stated he agrees with C/Gravdahl and
suggested a warrant study for a traffic signal at the
City Hall location.
Chair/Istik stated it is ironic that people must make a
trip to City Hall to obtain transportation passes which
necessitates a hazardous crossing. He suggested the
passes could be sent through the mail.
C/Gravdahl stated there should be several locations
around the City for ticket sales.
Chair/Istik suggested that the City encourage Foothill
Transit to stop in front of the City Hall building.
SE/Liu stated staff resources are limited. At this
time, various options are being considered and staff
will respond to the direction of the City Manager/City
Council.
A motion was made by C/Gravdahl and seconded by C/Ortiz
to table the request to install a crosswalk on Copley
Drive adjacent to the entrance to Diamond Bar City
Hall. The Commission will consider the various ticket
selling options to be presented by staff at the October
12, 1995 Traffic and Transportation Commission meeting.
Without objection, the motion was so ordered.
VI. OLD BUSINESS (Continued):
A. Traffic Warrant Analysis for Diamond Bar Boulevard at
Quail Summit Drive and at Montefino Avenue.
DDPW/Liu stated the intersections of Diamond Bar
Boulevard at Quail Summit Drive and at Montefino Avenue
were studied for potential traffic signal installations
as well as, flashing beacons and pedestrian crosswalks.
DKS Associates has provided a copy of their study for
the Commission's consideration.
Mario Sanchez, DKS Associates, stated that four
applicable traffic signal warrants were applied to the
two intersections. DKS Associates conducted 24 hour
counts on all of the approaches of the two
intersections. Pedestrian counts were taken for a
period of twelve hours from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. on a
Wednesday in August, 1995. In addition, accident
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history for the two intersections was considered.
Mr. Sanchez stated the Montefino Avenue intersection
meets the traffic signal warrant based on the number of
accidents at the location. One leg of the Quail
Summit Drive intersection fronts a parking lot.
Therefore, adequate storage is not available for
queuing of vehicles in the parking lot.
DDPW/Liu responded to C/Gravdahl that the top three
locations for traffic signals installation are Diamond
Bar Boulevard at Goldrush Drive, Golden Springs Drive
at Calbourne Drive, and Diamond Bar Boulevard at
Palomino Drive. These three locations are scheduled
for the current fiscal year. If this item is reviewed
and approved by the Traffic and Transportation
Commission tonight, it will be forwarded to the City
Council under consideration for the 1996-1997 fiscal
year capital improvement project.
DDPW/Liu responded to Chair/Istik that staff recommends
that the Traffic and Transportation Commission forward
DKS Associates' recommendation of installing a traffic
signal on Diamond Bar Boulevard at Montefino Avenue to
City Council to be considered for the 1996-1997 fiscal
year capital improvement program.
A motion was made by C/Gravdahl and seconded by
C/Virginkar to refer the Traffic Warrant Analysis for
Diamond Bar Boulevard at Montefino Avenue to the City
Council for approval. Without objection, the motion
was so ordered.
VII. NEW BUSINESS - None
VIII. ITEMS FROM COMMISSIONERS:
C/Gravdahl asked when the streets in the Diamond Point
area will be slurry sealed. DDPW/Liu responded the bid
opening date for this project is scheduled for the week
of September 25. The bids will be recommended to the
City Council for contract consideration. The slurry
seal should begin by the end of October or the first
week of November.
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Responding to C/Gravdahl, Sgt. Rawlings stated the 25
MPH signs were recently installed on Sunset Crossing
Road and that during the month of September, warning
citations will be issued. Enforcement will begin the
first of October. Law enforcement officers will have
to conduct pacing which is very dangerous on a
residential street. There are a number of streets in
Diamond Bar that are in the same category as Sunset
Crossing Road. Previously, the Sheriff's Department
had a survey on Sunset Crossing Road that allowed
enforcement and that enforcement tool has been taken
away.
In response to Chair/Istik, Sgt. Rawlings stated his
recommended solution is as it was before - that the
City should not take away law enforcement's ability to
use radar on such streets.
Chair/Istik stated that the Commission's action was to
reduce the speed limit to the prima facia 25 MPH on
those streets that would not qualify as a speed trap
and radar could still be utilized. He indicated he did
not recall applying it to streets that would prohibit
the use of radar.
C/Gravdahl stated he concurs with Chair/Istik. He
indicated that Palomino Drive was the street considered
for the 25 MPH prima facia where stop signs could be
placed at intersections so that the streets could still
be enforced with radar. He further stated he does not
recall consideration of Sunset Crossing Road for 25 MPH
prima facia. C/Gravdahl recommended that the Traffic
and Transportation Commission reconsider Sunset
Crossing Road as an agenda item for the October 12,
1995 meeting.
Sgt. Rawlings stated that he recalls that all streets
in the City that were posted 30 MPH or more would be
returned to 25 MPH prima facia.
Craig Clute, 21217 Fountain Springs Drive, stated there
were two streets that were excluded from the change.
He indicated he does not recall the street in question
and he will have to check his notes.
C/Gravdahl stated Prospectors Road was one street that
was not being changed to 25 MPH prima facia.
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Mr. Clute stated he has not seen the speed trailer in
the area. He further stated he measured the speed
limit sign height on Fountain Springs Road and Cold
Spring Lane. They are over 10 feet at the center of
the sign and they are smaller than the signs previously
posted. He is concerned that the signs may not be
visible to the motorists.
C/Ortiz stated that his neighbors have told him they
have noticed the new signs. He has noticed the new
signs and he does not feel there is a problem with the
height or size of the signs.
DDPW/Liu responded that the State of California
requires a minimum height of 7 feet for all traffic
control signs. He indicated he will discuss this issue
with Mr. Clute.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Istik declared the meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Atter
Jac'Istik
Ch rman
Respectfully,
Da?Via-G. Liu
Secretary