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HomeMy WebLinkAbout4/13/19951 CITY OF DIAMOND BAR MINUTES OF THE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP #1 APRIL 13, 1995 CALL TO ORDER Chairman Istik called the meeting to order at 6:10 p.m. at the Heritage Park Community Center, 2900 South Brea Canyon Road, Diamond Bar, California. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Vice - Chairperson Leonard. ROLL CALL Commissioners: Chairman Istik, Vice Chair Leonard, Commissioners Gravdahl, Ortiz Staff: Senior Engineer, David Liu; Administrative Assistant, Tseday Aberra; Sergeant Rawlings; and Recording Secretary, Carol Dennis Also Present: Bob Close and Mario Sanchez of DKS Associates Commissioner Chavers arrived at 6:15 p.m. I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1. Meeting of March 9, 1995. A motion was made by C/Ortiz and seconded by VC/Leonard to approve the minutes as presented. The motion was approved 4-1 with the following roll call: AYES: NOES: ABSTAIN: ABSENT: II. COMMISSION COMMENTS: COMMISSIONERS: Ortiz, VC/Leonard, Chavers, Chair/Istik COMMISSIONERS: None COMMISSIONERS: Gravdahl COMMISSIONERS: None C/Ortiz requested that the Commission recommend that the $325 Handicapped Parking space fine be posted throughout the City so that offenders may be warned/fined. He also cited the parking problems at Lorbeer Junior High School and requested that an enforcement officer be present at the beginning and at the end of the school sessions. He further requested that a tally report of citations and accidents. He further stated that he needs to be excused around 7:45 April 13, 1995 Page 2 T&T Commission p.m. VC/Leonard suggested that traffic lights be considered for Diamond Bar Boulevard at Silver Hawk Drive and Diamond Bar Boulevard at Goldrush Drive. C/Gravdahl suggested that, in accordance with C/Ortiz's request, all City Handicapped Parking signs should reflect the appropriate fine for non-compliance. C/Chavers commented that he believes that approximately 95% of the Handicapped Parking signs are on private property, therefore making it a private matter rather than a City matter. He recommended that the item be referred to the Planning Commission. SE/Liu stated that the fine can be indicated on the Heritage Park Handicapped Parking space signs. III. PUBLIC COMMENTS - None IV. CONSENT CALENDAR: A. Request by Tallywood Homeowners Association to park on northbound Diamond Bar Boulevard, between Kiowa Crest Drive and Morning Canyon Road. AA/Aberra reported that on behalf of Tallywood Homeowners Association located on Diamond Bar Boulevard at Kiowa Crest Drive, Lordon Management Company has contacted the Department of Public Works to request parking on northbound Diamond Bar Boulevard, between Kiowa Crest Drive and Morning Canyon Road, between April 17 and April 21, 1995. It is the Department's understanding that the asphalt within the Tallywood homes complex will be resurfaced between April 17 and April 21, 1995. Lordon Management Company has asked the Department if vehicles could be permitted to park on northbound Diamond Bar Boulevard, between Kiowa Crest Drive and Morning Canyon Road during this resurfacing project. They have requested residents be permitted to park between the hours of 7:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. There are 109 condominium units in the Tallywood Homes and Lordon Management Company anticipates that approximately 20 April 13, 1995 Page 3 T&T commission residents will utilize Diamond Bar Boulevard during the project. The remaining residents will be able to park within the complex during the resurfacing project since one half of the complex will be resurfaced at a time. Staff recommends that the Traffic and Transportation Commission approve Tallywood Homeowners Association's request to park on northbound Diamond Bar Boulevard between Kiowa Crest Drive and Morning Canyon Rod between April 17 and 21, 1995 from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. Staff recommends that the "No Parking" signs on said street be appropriately covered and taken down by Lordon Management Company. Peter Fahey, Vice President Tallywood Homeowners Association, stated that the request was for 24 hour parking rather than 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. for the designated dates only. A motion was made by VC/Leonard and seconded by C/Ortiz to allow the Tallywood residents 24 hour parking on northbound Diamond Bar Boulevard between Kiowa Crest Drive and Morning Canyon Road beginning on April 17, 1995 at 7:00 a.m. and ending April 21, 1995 at 7:00 p.m. In addition, Lordon Management Company will cover and uncover the "No Parking" signs on said street for the appropriate dates. The motion was approved unanimously with the following roll call: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: VC/Leonard, Ortiz, Chavers, Gravdahl, Chair/Istik NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None V. OLD BUSINESS: A. Progress update of the Neighborhood Traffic Management Study. SE/Liu recommended that the Commission hold this matter for the 7:00 p.m. workshop at which time the Commission would receive and file the report. The Commission concurred. B. Left -Turn Signal Phasing Warrants and Prioritization. it April 13, 1995 Page 4 T&T Commission SE/Liu stated that staff has provided, for the Traffic and Transportation Commission's review, a summary of the left - turn signal phasing warrants and prioritization for the intersections of Brea Canyon Road at Golden Springs Drive, Golden Springs Drive at Diamond Bar Boulevard, and Diamond Bar Boulevard at Mountain Laurel Way. Staff recommends that the Traffic and Transportation Commission receive and file the report. Chair/Istik stated that he would be abstaining from this item and turned the meeting over to VC/Leonard. C/Chavers indicated that he has concerns about protective/permissive types of conclusions to warrant studies and suggested that the Commission should reject the study. He suggested that the study did not go far enough and that staff should look into the matter further. C/Gravdahl concurred that the matter should be further investigated. C/Ortiz stated he agrees with the summary. However, he also believes that the matter should be looked into further. VC/Leonard indicated she agrees that the matter should be further investigated. Responding to C/Gravdahl, SE/Liu stated that the Left -Turn Signal Phasing was included in this fiscal year's CIP. He further stated that staff would request a further study in the design phase to see if an alternative can be implemented. C/Chavers asked staff to consider exclusive phasing. He stated he would like to see a Left -Turn Phasing study recommendation brought back to the Traffic and Transportation Commission for consideration. In response to C/Gravdahl, SE/Liu indicated the item could be carried over to next year's fiscal budget. A motion was made by C/Chavers and seconded by C/Ortiz to direct staff to make a more in-depth study of the types of left -turn operations and return to the Traffic and D 1 April 13, 1995 Page 5 TST Commission Transportation Commission with its report and recommendations and the basis for the recommendations. The motion was approved 4-1 with the following roll call: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Chavers, Ortiz, Gravdahl, VC/Leonard NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: Chair/Istik ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None VI. NEW BUSINESS - None VII. STATUS OF PREVIOUS ACTION ITEMS: SE/Liu reported that staff is seeking clarification on the legislative intent between Sections 445 and 40802 of the California Vehicle Code. VIII.ITEMS FROM COMMISSIONERS: C/Ortiz stated he had been approached by more than one person regarding the person who stands at the intersection of Golden Springs Drive and Grand Avenue exhibiting signs. He asked if there had been any investigation of who he is and why he is there. He indicated he is concerned that there might be accidents at the intersection as a result of people being sidetracked by the signs. SE/Liu responded that the Sheriff's Department has received inquiries, however, there have been no formal complaints to the City's Code Enforcement Officer. He stated he would investigate the matter further to determine if there had been any complaints filed with the City. C/Ortiz further stated that all complaints or lack of complaints need to be recorded for purposes of potential liability to the City. C/Gravdahl stated that with regard to the bicycle lane on Golden Springs Drive in front of Golden Springs School, he cited Page 27, Article 463 of the Vehicle Code. He requested to know how the Sheriff's Department would interpret this item for purposes of enforcement. Sgt. Rawlings responded that it is legal to load and unload in a "No Parking" zone. It would not be legal to load and unload if the area was posted "No -Stopping Anytime". April 13, 1995 Page 6 T&T Commission IX. ITEMS FROM STAFF - None X. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS - None Chairman Istik declared the 6:00 p.m. regular meeting of the Transportation Commission adjourned at 7:02 p.m. XI. PUBLIC MEETING Chair/Istik called the Public Meeting to order at 7:10 p.m. A. Neighborhood Traffic Management Workshop #1 SE/Liu stated that three goals have been set for this study: 1) Identify the through traffic and other neighborhood traffic problems; 2) Attempt to identify the specific location, nature and cause of the problems; and 3) Develop neighborhood traffic management plans that will resolve the traffic problems in a systematic way, with the consensus approval of the neighborhood residents. He indicated that the critical component of achieving these stated goals is the involvement of the residents. Tonight's meeting is to preview the study and review the range of possible solutions that might be contemplated. Information will be collected from the neighborhood residents to create an inventory of problems and concerns. Ideas regarding mitigation measures that the residents feel should be taken or should not taken will be recorded and mapped. He stated that staff would also like to identify volunteers from the neighborhood who would be willing to work with the City and the consultants in developing the Neighborhood Traffic Management Plan. Bob Close, DKS Associates, emphasized that this study is conducted primarily to consider the input from the community and, in particular, the neighborhood residents. It is imperative that the residents understand the study and agree April 13, 1995 Page 7 T&T commission with the findings and solutions. The study was initiated by gathering technical information regarding the traffic statistics and other data, truck movement, conditions of roadways, etc. The next step involved gathering information from the residents through the use of a questionnaire and through tonight's public meeting process. This meeting may be followed by a second questionnaire explaining what has been done and asking for further input from the residents. This information will then be analyzed from a traffic standpoint, from an public input standpoint and a consensus building standpoint as to what is seen as key issues and what types of things might be done to solve the problems. From this information, a draft report will be generated which will identify everything that has been done and make recommendations for types of improvements or actions to resolve the issues. After the report is generated, a second public meeting will be held in order to gather input and from this meeting, a final document will be prepared to answer all questions and concerns. He reiterated SE/Liu's request to have volunteers from the neighborhood work with the City and his firm in a small group setting in order to work through the project. Mr. Close referred the residents to graphic displays which offer potential traffic solutions that have been utilized for other projects. He stated that 592 questionnaires were sent to neighborhood residents and approximately 58 questionnaires have been returned. He pointed to a graphic display of concerns generated by the questionnaires. In order of importance, the primary concern is speeding and the second concern is school traffic. The third concern is a combination of items such as stop signs, traffic noise, parking problems, etc. The fourth concern is cut -through traffic and the fifth concern is truck traffic. Mr. Close pointed to a map of the area and indicated that certain items have been identified and catalogued. These are, classification of the roadways, posted speed limits, traffic counts, location of traffic signals, and four-way stop signs. Mario Sanchez, DKS Associates, stated that the locations used for traffic counts, were conducted at Castle Rock Road, Evergreen Springs Drive and Fountain Springs Road. In addition, vehicle classification counts were conducted at April 13, 1995 Page 8 T&T Commission Fountain Springs Road to determine the percentage of trucks that are utilized. Results indicate counts of 2-4% of the traffic traveling on Fountain Springs is commercial trucks. He indicated it appears that most of the commercial truck traffic is headed for the Country Hills Towne Center. By traffic engineering standards, the count indicates that Fountain Springs functions as a Residential street rather than a Collector. Responding to C/Chavers, Mr. Sanchez stated a truck is any vehicle above and beyond six wheels. Mr. Close referred to additional generic graphics which offer solutions to general neighborhood traffic problems. He stated that some of the easier solutions include such things as signing, better enforcement of speed limits, truck routing. Shown on the graphs are hardscape solutions such as chokers, traffic converters, and closed streets with walkways for emergency vehicles, traffic circles in the middle of streets with parking bumpers. RECESS: Chair/Istik declared the meeting recessed at 7:25 p.m. RECONVENE: Chair/Istik declared the meeting reconvened at 7:35 p.m. Commissioner Ortiz left the meeting at 7:27 p.m. Chair/Istik announced that C/Ortiz had been excused from the public meeting at 7:27 p.m. Chair/Istik asked the attendees to indicate their names, addresses and telephone numbers on the sign-up sheet at the front entrance. He requested that the consultants from DKS Associates provide copies of the graphs as handouts within the meeting packets. He asked for input from the neighborhood residents noting that the results of the meeting will be forwarded to the City Council and that the Traffic and Transportation Commission is acting as an advisory board only. C/Chavers stated that this is the first time the City of Diamond Bar has held this type of public workshop and as such, this is a test case being observed by the City Council -� and the citizens in general. He indicated he was glad to see such a good turnout and hoped that everyone would give their input and participate in the process. He further April 13, 1995 Page 9 T&T Commission stated that the process is intended to result in a series of measures that will likely require funds to implement. The Traffic and Transportation does not spend the City's money. The City Council must authorize the expenditure of funds. If the neighborhood reaches consensus with respect to what needs to be done to improve the traffic situation, the next step would be to appear before the City Council to reiterate the importance of the implementation of solutions and to state to the City Council that the neighbors agree and that there is consensus that these solutions need to be implemented to improve the neighborhood. C/Chavers referred to the proposed solutions indicating that several gave the appearance of narrowing the street. He cited an example of lane narrowing barriers on freeways under construction which serves to dramatically slow traffic. C/Gravdahl requested a copy of the area map. Mr. Close responded that C/Gravdahl could obtain a copy from SE/Liu. Chair/Istik stated there are a number of solutions which neighborhoods utilized. He suggested that the residents imagine themselves going to the area to buy a house and visualize solutions that would not appear severe or out of place but would fit into the surroundings and not detract from the value of the homes. Responding to Chair/Istik, Mr. Close stated that the original area street design may not have contemplated major street connections. Chair/Istik declared the public testimony portion of the meeting open and invited the residents to speak. Karl Fekete, 2220 Evergreen Springs Drive, stated that his primary concerns have to do with the parking and congestion at Diamond Bar High School. He indicated he has spoken to the principal and advised him that the residents have difficulty getting up and down the street because the students interfere with traffic by making u -turns in the middle of the street. He further stated that once the SR 57 freeway was built, traffic became a problem in the area. If the traffic stayed on the major roads instead of cutting down Fountain Springs and if traffic was routed to Diamond Bar Boulevard from the freeway and from the high school, it would cut down the through traffic considerably. Once the April 13, 1995 Page 10 T&T Commission back gate was opened (the freeway and Pathfinder Road) it created a bottleneck at Evergreen Springs Drive. Joe Johnston, 3177 Castle Rock Road, stated that at night trucks are pulling off of the freeway and going to Denny's restaurant. The residents get a lot of peak traffic in his location. Drivers are pulling off of the freeway at Brea Canyon Road and cutting through Brea Canyon Road and jumping back on the freeway at Pathfinder Road to save time. He talked about a neighborhood resident who has turned a garage into a guest house and has had guests living there for 12 to 18 months at a time. In addition, he stated the guests have a number of cars which are blocking driveways. He further stated that there are occasions when his wife cannot get out of her driveway. In response to Mr. Johnston, Chair/Istik stated that the question of how many people can occupy a residence is a matter of Land Use. He referred Mr. Johnston to the Planning Commission and Code Enforcement. Ted Cross, 21310 Hidden Pines Drive, thanked the City for the four-way stop at Cold Springs Lane and Brea Canyon Road stating it is a definite improvement and it has slowed the traffic on Brea Canyon Road. He stated that his concerns for his neighborhood include the fact that his street is only 30 feet wide and traffic is parked on both sides of the street permitting only one-way traffic. He indicated he is not sure what would be a satisfactory solution because if parking is limited on one sides, the residents on that side will be unhappy. In addition, the corner of Hidden Pines Drive to Sunbright Drive is less than a 90 degree radius and as vehicles approach the corner in a westerly fashion shave the corner to the left. On many occasions there have been near -miss collisions. He suggested that an inexpensive solution would be to stripe the middle of the street so that the traffic would hug the line rather than hug the curb. He also suggested four-way stops for Cold Springs Lane and Castle Rock Road, and at Fountain Springs Road and Castle Rock Road. Ted Thurlo, 21245 Cold Springs Lane also thanked the City for the four-way stop at Cold Springs Lane and Brea Canyon Road. He indicated he would like to see a stop sign at Cold Springs Lane and Castle Rock Road. He also cited a problem April 13, 1995 Page 11 T&T Commission with the signal at Cold Springs Lane and Diamond Bar Boulevard stating that there is a five minute wait at the red light to merge onto Diamond Bar Boulevard and when the signal turns green from Cold Springs Lane it turns yellow before you can get into the intersection. He asked that the City look into resetting this signal. Ken Anderson, 2628 Rising Star Drive, thanked the City for the traffic signal on Fountain Springs Road at Diamond Bar Boulevard. He stated that he believes installation of four- way stops at the two locations previously mentioned would solve much of the traffic problem. He cited the Evergreen Springs Drive problem indicated he had no solution to offer because of the downhill speed reached by students leaving the Diamond Bar High School. He indicated that a turn -out is needed at the high school for student loading and unloading. He requested copies of the generic solution graphs be included in the record. He stated he particularly likes the choker which he believes would work well at the Country Hills Towne Center driveway which spills onto Fountain Springs Road. He further stated it was his understanding that one of the conditions for approval of the shopping center was that there would be no driveway from the shopping center onto Fountain Springs Road and that the location was to have been redesigned following completion of the center and if any additional development was completed within the center, the driveway would be limited to inbound traffic only. The late night traffic dumping onto Fountain Springs Road is a major problem for the residents. This traffic could better be redirected to the large entrance/exit on Diamond Bar Boulevard. Michelle Hunter, 2749 Sunbright Drive, thanked the Traffic and Transportation Commission for conducting the public meeting. She stated that it was exciting to see that a number of items that she and her husband have been discussing over the past year showed up on the survey and it is encouraging to them that other residents feel the way they do. She stated their greatest concern is their street width. Parking on the street is a problem and if two vehicles are attempting to pass each other going in opposite directions, one car must pull over and come to a complete stop in order for the other to pass by. She indicated she is also very concerned about children in the area because the congestion of traffic prevents clear visibility and April 13, 1995 Page 12 T&T Commission makes it very difficult to see if children are leaving their yards and entering the street. She further stated that they are concerned with diminishing property values. There are large campers parked on her street 24 hours a day and with that and the congestion of parked cars, she feels it is not appealing for property values and encouraging people to move into the area. She indicated she would like to have an ordinance preventing 24 hour parking on her street, however, she is concerned that the neighbors would then park in their yards and she does not want that to occur. She said she has seen this happening in the neighborhood. VC/Intik stated he believes there is an ordinance regarding parking of cars on the street in excess of 72 hours. Responding to VC/Istik, Sgt. Rawlings cited a County Ordinance which prohibits the parking of vehicles in the same spot for more than 72 hours. If the Sheriff's Department is notified that there is an offender, they will go to the site and mark the vehicle tires and return sometime after 72 hours to see if the vehicles is still there. If the vehicle has not been moved at all, the Sheriff's Department can tow the vehicle. Generally speaking, in many cases, the individual who owns the vehicle will move it forward or backward a few feet and the Sheriff's Department cannot tow the vehicle. The County Council states that the Sheriff's Department may not tow a vehicle that has been moved even slightly or the Sheriff's Department will pay the storage. Joe Johnston stated that when he first moved to Diamond Bar, the Sheriff's Department cleaned up the street because there was no overnight parking allowed and he does not understand why they cannot do the same thing now. Sgt. Rawlings responded that the City of Walnut Sheriff's station has three City contracts. They are, Diamond Bar, Walnut and San Dimas. The Cities of Walnut and San Dimas have "No Overnight Parking" ordinances and the City of Diamond Bar does not. When the matter was brought before the City Council several years ago, the standing room only residents vehemently opposed a "No Overnight Parking" ordinance. The Sheriff's Department is charged with enforcing applicable City ordinances. C/Gravdahl stated that there is a maintenance ordinance April 13, 1995 Page 13 T&T Commission which prohibits parking on yards and this can be enforced by citizen's reporting the incident to the Code Enforcement officer at City Hall. Bill Lovell, 2660 Crooked Creek Drive, stated his complaint is that his street dead ends at the Evergreen Elementary School. At the corner of Fountain Springs Drive and Crooked Creek Drive, a business is being conducted from a house and eight or nine vehicles are constantly parked at that location. As long as the vehicles are moved every 72 hours, there is no recourse. He indicated he would like to have "No Parking" on Fountain Springs Drive between Diamond Bar Boulevard and Castle Rock Road. There are no driveways dumping onto Fountain Springs Drive in that area with the exception of Country Hills Towne Center driveway which is a problem that has been discussed. Chair/Istik asked DKS Associates to obtain a copy of the minutes from this meeting in order to arrive at suggestions for mitigation. This could include parking restrictions in and near the Country Hills Towne Center. He suggested that this item be included in the second questionnaire going out to the residents. C/Chavers stated that he is aware of a number of complaints regarding traffic around Diamond Bar High School. He suggested that a "Parking Permit Program" could be implemented. The City Council has stated that if citizens wish such a program instituted in their area and they are willing to pay for the program, the City Council will consider the proposal. David Rubakaba, 2319 Evergreen Springs Drive, stated his home is located between Lost River Drive and Sunbright Drive. He indicated he is concerned about the speed of the vehicles. It is a steep hill and Diamond Bar High School is located at the top of the hill. Evergreen Springs Elementary School is located at the bottom of the hill and there are speeding vehicles both coming down the hill and going up the hill with speeds reaching upwards of 50 miles per hour. He further stated he has witnessed drag racing on the hill and since moving there in 1986, he has personally suffered two accidents. He recommended the installation of a stop sign at the corner of Evergreen Springs Drive and Sunbright Drive. April 13, 1995 Page 14 T&T Commission Craig Clute, 21217 Fountain Springs Road thanked the Traffic and Transportation Commission for conducting the meeting at Heritage Park allowing more residents to participate in the process. Most of his concerns have been stated at previous meetings of the Traffic and Transportation Commission. In addition, the residents have again voiced many of his concerns this evening. He stressed the traffic cut -through problems on Fountain Springs Drive which is an ongoing problem going beyond rush hour traffic. He recommended closure of the north entrance to the County Hills Shopping Center and he requested that DKS Associates supply the citizens with the various products available with emergency access for this location. He stated his belief that most of the traffic problems on Fountain Springs Drive are generated by the shopping center, cut -through traffic and the high school. Mr. Clute recommended that parking be limited on streets such as Sunbright Drive to better allow larger emergency vehicles access. In addition, although there is adequate lighting in the neighborhood, some residents have mentioned to him that lighting was inadequate. There is a problem with no sidewalk on Brea Canyon Road and children pedestrian safety. He stated he sees children walking down Brea Canyon Road every day in the dirt. He does not like walking in the dirt with his four year old so they take the long way around to the park. Mr. Clute also recommended a school crossing at Fountain Springs Road and Castle Rock Road, as well as a reduction of speed to 25 miles per hour on Fountain Springs Road. He asked DKS Associates for a count of access traffic at the Fountain Springs Road entrance off of Diamond Bar Boulevard. He also questioned the validity of the traffic counts. Mr. Close requested a copy of Mr. Clute's written comments. Chair/Istik asked Mr. Clute to forward his comments to SE/Liu. Responding to Mr. Johnston, SE/Liu stated that the issue of Brea Canyon Road improvement plan is proposed in the 1995/1996 fiscal year Capital Improvement Program. He indicated there are two conceptual plans for Brea Canyon Road. One plan is to maintain the existing two lanes with turn lanes at intersections and the existing parkway areas would be proposed to be utilized as pedestrian lane facility in conjunction with a bikeway. The other conceptual plan is to widen Brea Canyon Road to four lanes (two lanes in each April 13, 1995 Page 15 T&T Commission direction). At this time, staff does not believe that the second plan is necessary. The improvement proposal includes Brea Canyon Road between Fountain Springs Road to the north down to the southerly City limit line. Mr. Cross stated his wife would greatly appreciate a sidewalk on Brea Canyon Road. He feels that the Heritage Park area lags behind on improvements and that it has been generally ignored by the City. He requested consideration of a drop-off zone for the rear of Castle Rock Elementary School. He stated that dropping off kids at the school in the mornings is an absolute nightmare. He extended his sympathies to the people living in the area of the school. He feels the principal would be very cooperative in getting this accomplished. As far as a potential gate for the north entrance of the Country Hills Towne Center, he stated he is a Los Angeles County Firefighter and they carry what is called a "master key". It is a pair of bolt cutters about five and one-half feet long and he hasn't found a gate yet that he cannot open in an emergency. If Country Hills Towne Center is using emergency access as an excuse, it doesn't wash. He stated that to him, to have a shopping center dump its traffic onto a residential street seems ludicrous, especially with the tremendous traffic carrying potential of Diamond Bar Boulevard. Since he lives behind the shopping center it would be inconvenient for him, but it would be well worth the trade-off in his opinion to support the neighborhood and get the traffic off of Fountain Springs Road. He further stated that it is ridiculous to have 150 cars dump onto a residential street at 11:30 p.m. and he does not blame the residents for being upset. Marlies Worley, 21339 Hipass Drive, stated she lives on the corner of Castle Rock Road and Highcrest Drive and between Cold Springs Lane and Fountain Springs Road and she would like to see a four-way stop at both of the intersections. She indicated that getting from her house to Castle Rock Elementary School is horrendous. Chair/Istik asked DKS Associates to take each comment and consider it as an issue for their next questionnaire. In this way, the issues can be quantified on an area -wide basis. Responding to C/Gravdahl, Mr. Close stated that 592 April 13, 1995 Page 16 T&T Commission residences were targeted for the initial questionnaire mailing and the same number would be targeted for the second mailing. Responding to C/Chavers, Mr. Cross stated he personally measured his street and it is 30 feet wide curb to curb with a seven foot parkway to the sidewalk. C/Chavers suggested that the parkway could be reclaimed as an option to a parking restriction for one side. In response to C/Chavers, Mr. Sanchez stated that in order to meet a warrant, there have to be at least 500 vehicles entering an intersection during any eight hours of any given day. A study was conducted at the intersection of Castle Rock Road and Cold Springs Lane and it did not meet the requirements for a warrant study. There are also thresholds of volume and there has to be at least five accidents in a twelve month period. C/Chavers stated there are standards that are adopted throughout the State of California and those standards are community standards that everybody buys into and if a community chooses to deviate from those standards in singular instances the community may accrue a liability or risk. If a study is conducted at one intersection and an accident occurs at another intersection having the same unusual form of risks, the injured party could claim negligence on the part of the City for not recognizing all intersections equally. Therefore, it is very important that the City live by the standards so as not to unecessarily assume the liabilities of that risk. If you put a stop sign in a location that obviously does not need the stop sign, people are often times encouraged to violate the stop sign. Mr. Close stated that if a stop sign or other traffic device is installed where it is not warranted, and there are specific rules on how it is warranted, it is not enforceable. Traffic standards are set to mitigate traffic and to be enforceable. Mr. Clute stated he feels that the residents deserve a four- way stop at Castle Rock Road and Fountain Springs Road and he asked DKS Associates to take another look at past studies. April 13, 1995 Page 17 T&T Commission C/Chavers requested that staff share the concept drawings for Brea Canyon Road with the consultants and bring them to the next workshop for the residents to view and support. SE/Liu stated that staff will meet with DKS Associates and discuss all of the information and concerns accumulated during this meeting. Using the information gathered, a second questionnaire will be generated and brought before the Traffic and Transportation Commission for their approval at the May 11, 1995 meeting. Staff anticipates the questionnaire will be mailed to the residents at the end of May along with a notification of the second workshop. C/Chavers suggested that the Commission back into the schedule by tentatively targeting the second workshop for June so that everything can be fit into the next 60 day period. Chair/Istik stated he would like to see the questionnaire before it is mailed out. Mr. Close stated he would have the questionnaire ready for the May 11 Commission meeting. He would like to have at least one steering committee meeting prior to the second workshop. In response to VC/Leonard, Mr. Close indicated he would like six residents to volunteer for a steering committee to meet with staff and DKS Associates. Chair/Istik asked for three volunteers from the audience and asked that each volunteer bring one additional resident from the area to serve with them on the steering committee. The following people volunteered: Craig Clute, 21217 Fountain Springs Road Ted Cross, 21310 Hidden Pines Drive Michelle Hunter, 2749 Sunbright Drive Mr. Clute encouraged the City to conclude the traffic counts prior to school summer recess. Chair/Istik thanked the participants and stated that they would be notified regarding time and place for the proposed June workshop. This matter will be discussed at the May 11, April 13, 1995 Page 18 T&T Commission 1995 Traffic and Transportation Commission meeting. XII. ADJOURNMENT Chair/Istik declared the Neighborhood Traffic Management Workshop #1 adjourned at 8:55 p.m. Respectfully, a Id G. Secretary Attest: Jac Isti Ch rman