HomeMy WebLinkAbout3/9/1995CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MINUTES OF THE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION
MARCH 9, 1995
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Ortiz called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. at the
South Coast Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD) Hearing Room,
21865 East Copley Drive, Diamond Bar, California.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Chairman Ortiz.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners: Chairman Ortiz, Vice Chairman Istik, Chavers,
Leonard
Excused: Gravdahl
Staff: Senior Engineer, David Liu; Consultant
Engineer, Michael Myers; Administrative
Assistant, Tseday Aberra; Sergeant Rawlings;
and Recording Secretary, Carol Dennis
Chair/Ortiz welcomed Commissioner Joyce Leonard. C/Leonard
stated that she has been a Diamond Bar resident for 16 years.
She stated that she currently holds a Real Estate Broker's
license and is affiliated with Re -Max Realtors.
I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. Meeting of February 9, 1995.
C/Chavers indicated he is abstaining from approval of the
minutes due to his absence from the February 9 Traffic
and Transportation Commission meeting.
VC/Istik questioned the approval of the minutes of the
December 8, 1994 Traffic and Transportation meeting. He
stated he was a few minutes late and that was voted on 2-
0. He asked if 2-0 constitutes approval of the minutes.
SE/Liu responded that three commissioners were present
and that two constitutes a majority of those present.
Regarding the February 9, 1995 Traffic and Transportation
Commission minutes, VC/Istik submitted the following
corrections:
1) Page 4, sixth paragraph, fourth line, change
"adequate" to "advisable" so that the sentence
reads: "Some streets should have been designed as
Residential Collectors with no houses facing the
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street and because of this he feels it would be
advisable to tell people the grade of the street."
2) On Page 7, VII. Status of Previous Action Items, he
stated that the discussion of why the item had not
been before the City Council is close to what was
discussed at that time.
3) Regarding Page 8, second paragraph, he stated that
there was a discussion regarding receipt of the
City Council packets and since that time, he has
been receiving them on time. He indicated he also
stated at that meeting that Commissioner Chavers
had indicated that he was receiving his packet
sometimes on the Wednesday following the meeting.
He stated he indicated on February 9 that was not
reflected in those previous minutes and ironically,
neither was it included in the minutes of February
9, 1995 so he asked that the comment be added if it
is something that C/Chavers said.
C/Chavers stated that he received this week's Council
Meeting notice in yesterday's mail.
VC/Istick stated he received his the same day. It was
postmarked Santa Ana and dated March 3.
4) With respect to the third paragraph on Page 8,
VC/Istick stated that was somewhat summarized.
There was nothing in the minutes besides a vote on
his part on those two issues. He feels strongly
about this and has talked to the representative of
the Evangelical Free Church and two Commissioners
who are present tonight about whether or not he had
something to say and if they recall any discussion
on that part and they do. So that goes back to his
statement on February 9 about the minutes being
condensed or summarized or are some parts being cut
out and he objects to some parts being cut out.
5) Regarding Page 9, paragraph five, what he recalls
is SE/Liu stating "Here are the rules that were
forwarded by Mayor Papen" and he further asked the
question, "would you want to receive the rules once
a year or in every packet?" And in response to
that, he stated that he didn't think it was
necessary to include the rules in every packet. He
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stated he wants to leave in the question that was
asked.
A motion was made by VC/Istik and seconded by Chair/Ortiz to
postpone approval of the minutes until the revisions are made.
VC/Istik would like to see the revised minutes. The motion
was approved with the following roll call:
AYES:
COMMISSIONERS:
VC/Istik, Chair/Ortiz
NOES:
COMMISSIONERS:
None
ABSTAIN:
COMMISSIONERS:
Chavers, Leonard
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Gravdahl
II. COMMISSION COMMENTS
C/Chavers stated he was able to get one copy of a handout
regarding the Chino Valley Freeway. He further stated that
many are pinning their hopes that when the freeway segment is
improved there will be improvements to traffic conditions in
Diamond Bar.
C/Chavers stated that he noted with interest that the traffic
signals at Golden Springs Drive/Golden Prados Drive and Golden
Springs Drive/ Prospectors Road and Golden Springs Drive/Carpio
Drive were on the agenda. He asked if those were authorized
by Council to be constructed. SE/Liu responded that Council
has authorized these projects as this year's capital
improvement projects. C/Chavers commented that the City is
now looking at another fiscal year and he believes those
particular signals were a part of the 1994/1995 fiscal year
and since the City is now approaching 1995/1996 it is his
understanding that the City Council will put money into the
budget for more traffic signals in fiscal year 1995/1996. He
stated he would like to see efforts expedited to get the
upcoming signals that are programmed into the budget
identified, get the Council to approve them, get the designs
put together and move as fast as possible. If there are funds
available for 1995/1996 he would like to see it spent early in
the fiscal year and have the benefit of the new equipment. He
asked staff to update the Commission on the warrant
information available, the current rankings, and what new
intersections are coming to light. He indicated that he had
witnessed an accident at Diamond Bar Boulevard and Goldrush
Drive. He believes there are some very real concerns
regarding this intersection and wants them addressed and acted
upon as quickly as possible.
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SE/Liu responded that with respect to the traffic signals for
the next fiscal year the City is currently conducting traffic
signal warrant studies at 10 intersections. These are:
Diamond Bar Boulevard at Tin Drive, Goldrush Drive, Silverhawk
Drive, Acacia Hill and Palomino Drive; Golden Springs Drive at
Calbourne Drive and Raquet Club Road; Pathfinder Road at
Peacefull Hills Road; and Sunset Crossing Road at the
southbound SR 57. The warrant studies should be completed in
approximately three weeks and with the conclusion of the
studies, staff will bring this back to the Traffic and
Transportation Commission meeting as an agenda item. With the
blessing from the Commission, this will be forwarded to the
Council for budget approval.
Chair/Ortiz asked for a report on bike lane striping. SE/Liu
stated that one of the concerns raised by a resident is
whether the bike lane line should be dashed when it approaches
a private driveway. According to the CalTrans standard, "the
bike lane line may either be dropped entirely approximately
200 feet in advance of the intersection or a dash line carried
to the intersection or through the intersection". With
respect to the definition of an intersection, staff believes
that this can be interpreted to mean a public street. He
indicated that at this time, staff is not aware of any
specific requirements in the code.
Responding to Chair/Ortiz, SE/Liu stated that the driveway
opposite Montefino at Diamond Bar Boulevard is a private
driveway.
VC/Istik stated that the SR 57 Freeway southbound on/off ramp
at Sunset Crossing is under the jurisdiction of and should be
funded by CalTrans. He further stated that CalTrans would
probably let the City go in and pay the entire cost but since
it is used to a great degree for eastbound SR 60 access it
might be appropriate to ask CalTrans to think about funding a
portion or all of the project. He asked to see the warrant
study for Prospectors Road at Golden Springs Drive. SE/Liu
responded that he would include the warrant study as part of
the April Traffic and Transportation Commission packet.
VC/Istik stated that would be agreeable.
III. PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Craig Clute, 21217 Fountain Springs Road, asked what the
City's involvement is and how effective it might be in
expressing its concerns to CalTrans. He is concerned with
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sound walls and the type of construction and design pattern
the soundwall might have. He stated he would not like to see
all of the greenery removed from the Diamond Bar Boulevard and
Pathfinder Road location just to accommodate a sound wall.
Responding to Mr. Clute, SE/Liu stated that the City gets
involved in the environmental process. Public meetings are
conducted prior to the project approval.
In response to Chair/Ortiz, SE/Liu stated that the March 8 Los
Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority (LACMTA)
meeting was a workshop dealing with the Long Range
Transportation Plan. LACMTA is soliciting public input for
the Los Angeles County plan.
C/Chavers stated that the project Mr. Clute is referring to
has been funded for several years and it was moved up through
efforts by Mayor Papen. The design is near completion. The
Project Development Coordinator is Lu Quan. The City can give
its input, however, CalTrans is not obligated to ask for input
from the City. CalTrans will meet the letter of the law when
it comes to the Environmental Impact requirements and the
Mitigation Measures. In order to widen the freeway and add
the lane, sound walls were a necessary mitigation measure
under the EIR and CalTrans will build them. If any City wants
to coordinate with CalTrans the City must proactively seek a
relationship with CalTrans. With respect to this specific
sound wall, CalTrans is widening the freeway from south of the
Diamond Bar Boulevard off -ramp eight to 12 feet and north of
Diamond Bar Boulevard moving up and over the bridge and before
it catches grade again somewhere around the Pathfinder Road
interchange, pushing the freeway out. In order to retain the
fill land they will install a retaining wall with a sound wall
on top of it and the greenery will be destroyed. He
anticipates the wall will be plain concrete with a very plain
masonry wall. CalTrans may ask the City to pay for anything
additional to make the wall architecturally and aesthetically
pleasing. There are never any public meetings for
construction design. The public meetings were held during the
Environmental Impact review which was done approximately six
years ago about the time the City incorporated. C/Chavers
suggested that Mr. Clute contact CalTrans in coordination with
City staff to determine what they are doing for the
landscaping, retaining wall and block wall.
Mr. Clute asked if CalTrans has plans to widen the Grand
Avenue ramps. SE/Liu responded that he has no information for
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that location. C/Chavers stated that it is a separate
project. CalTrans divides things into design and construction
packages. The SR 57 south of the SR 60 split will be one
package. What happens in the SR 57/SR 60 confluence and the
SR 60 extending up over the hill into Pomona will be a second
design and construction package. He offered his services to
staff with regard to contacting people at CalTrans.
SE/Liu provided Mr. Clute with a copy of the Executive Summary
from the March 8, 1995 MTA Long Range Transportation Plan
workshop.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR: - None
V. OLD BUSINESS:
A. Neighborhood Traffic Management Study.
SE/Liu reported that to resolve the traffic problems in
a systematic areawide approach with the consensus
approval of the community for the triangle area bounded
by Pathfinder Road to the north, Diamond Bar Boulevard to
the east and Brea Canyon Road to the west. DKS and staff
have developed the proposed correspondence and the
questionnaire that will be sent to the residents next
week. Staff would like for the Commission to concur with
the enclosures. There are approximately 500 residents in
the area who will receive this mailing and they will have
at least four weeks to respond. Staff is also requesting
that the April Traffic and Transportation Commission
meeting be a joint meeting and workshop with the
neighborhood residents for this study.
Responding to Chair/Ortiz, SE/Liu indicated that in
addition to the workshop there are several items
scheduled for the meeting agenda.
Chair/Ortiz recommended two meetings for April with one
meeting designated for the workshop only.
C/Chavers stated he is comfortable with two meetings. As
an alternative he would be agreeable to starting the
meeting at 6:00 p.m. with the regular business being
conducted in the first hour. The public workshop could
be opened at 7:00 p.m. and a second meeting could be
scheduled if needed.
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VC/Istik stated he would like to have one meeting.
C/Leonard indicated she would agree with one meeting
starting at 6:00 p.m.
Chair/Ortiz stated the next meeting would begin at 6:00
p.m. as opposed to 7:00 p.m.
SE/Liu asked for Commission input with respect to the
mailer which will be sent out next week.
VC/Istik stated that at the February 9 Traffic and
Transportation meeting it was brought up under "Old
Business" that this item would come before the Traffic
and Transportation Commission for approval at this
meeting. Responding to VC/Istik, SE/Liu stated that DKS
Associates has completed approximately 25% of the study.
The Diamond Bar Boulevard project has been completed and
DKS Associates has completed a review of the existing
data for the neighborhood traffic management study.
VC/Istik suggested that the residents could be told the
key issues the City is looking for and that these items
could be highlighted.
C/Leonard indicated that she approves of the question-
naire as written.
C/Chavers stated that Item #4 on the questionnaire seems
to be a fairly technical statement. He suggested that
the item be rephrased to encourage a layman's response.
He feels the questionnaire might lead people to
exaggerate and therefore not elicit real opinions and he
encouraged staff to work with DKS to find a more open
ended way to ask these questions.
VC/Istik suggested that on Item #3 people could be
encouraged to use a relative importance of 1 to 12.
C/Chavers stated that if the residents are asked to rank
the items in order of importance from 1 to 12 then they
have been asked to provide a measure of importance.
VC/Istik explained that he was involved with a study
wherein some people listed all items as a problem and
they put all 10's only to find out later when the
responses were averaged there was absolutely no input to
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the final result.
Chair/Ortiz suggested that an example of how the
questionnaire is to be completed should be included on
the form.
A motion was made by C/Chavers and seconded by C/Leonard
to have staff work with the consultant to incorporate,
where possible, the comments by the Commission and get
the questionnaire out to the public. The motion was
approved 4-0 with the following roll call:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Chavers, Leonard,
VC/Istik, Chair/Ortiz
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Gravdahl
Mr. Clute suggested that owners and renters and the
Country Hills Town Center Management Company, the school
district and the school crossing guard company should be
invited to the meeting.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Request for multi -way stop sign warrant analysis on
Palomino Drive between Diamond Bar Boulevard and Ballena
Drive.
AA/Aberra reported that the Department of Public Works
continues to receive complaints about speeding on
Palomino Drive. In the past, the Commission has
discussed the feasibility of installing stop signs on
Palomino Drive. Staff is requesting input from the
Commission and asking that the Commission concur with
staff's recommendation to conduct a warrant study for a
three-way stop sign on Palomino Drive at Ballena Drive
and Platina Drive.
VC/Istik stated he would concur with the recommended
action.
C/Leonard stated she would also concur with the
recommendation.
C/Chavers indicated that there is a traffic signal
warrant study being conducted on Diamond Bar Boulevard at
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Palomino Drive. The information would be beneficial to
have as part of this study and he is concerned that a
three-way stop is treating the symptom rather than curing
the disease. He is concerned about even considering a
traffic signal at Palomino given how closely it is spaced
to the SR 60/Diamond Bar Boulevard interchange. Perhaps
the Palomino Drive/Diamond Bar Boulevard intersection
should be viewed as to how the problem is fixed as
opposed to putting stop signs down on Palomino Drive at
Ballena Drive and Platina Drive. He suggested maybe
there are geometric configurations where the access could
be limited at the Diamond Bar Boulevard intersection.
Perhaps it could be made a right-in/right-out only.
Perhaps it could be made left -in and not allow left turns
out. Some of those things would start to change the
traffic pattern fairly dramatically. He stated he
supports the idea that the warrant analysis be done but
he would like for an accompanying analysis to be done of
the intersection of Diamond Bar Boulevard and Palomino
Drive to see if there isn't another option.
A motion was made by C/Chavers and seconded by VC/Istik
to approve staff's recommendation to conduct multi -way
stop sign warrant analysis on Palomino Drive at Ballena
Drive and at Platina Drive and that staff concurrently
investigate ways to improve the intersection of Diamond
Bar Boulevard/ Palomino Drive. The motion was approved 4-
0 with the following roll call:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: C/Chavers, VC/Istik,
C/Leonard, Chair/Ortiz
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: C/Gravdahl
B. Request by Jones Intercable to remove the existing red
curb on both sides of their second driveway on Brea
Canyon Road.
SE/Liu stated that at the February Traffic and
Transportation Commission meeting the Commission
requested that staff work with the business owner to see
' if there might be any alternative solutions for the
loading/ unloading condition that exists. Staff has
determined that the Jones Intercable business office and
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the auto body shop are part of the same structure. The
Jones Intercable facility is approximately 19,400 square
feet of floor area. Jones Intercable has 31 employees on
an average daily basis and 34 employees who work outside
the facility for a total of 65 employees. The auto body
shop employs two people. According to the City's
Planning and Zoning Code, the parking requirement for the
structure is 48. There are currently 34 parking spaces
in a parking lot which is accessed from Lycoming Street
and an additional 22 spaces are provided in the parking
lot which is accessed from Brea Canyon Road. This gives
a total of 56 parking spaces which exceeds the
requirement of 48. Staff has been in contact with
several people at Jones Intercable and tonight their
representative is present with a suggestion for
resolution to this situation. Staff suggests that until
the on-site parking facilities are fully utilized the
City should not grant any further consideration.
Therefore, staff recommends that the Commission deny the
request and continue to work with Jones Intercable to
assist them in better utilizing their on-site parking
facility.
Janet Spatz, General Manager of Jones Intercable and
resident of Diamond Bar, stated that she fully expected
the Commission to deny their request based on prior
comments by the Commissioners. She indicated that due to
the shifting during the day, the current parking facility
is empty part of the day. What the company has done is
to identify certain spaces in the parking lot that are
not used until the afternoon or evening shift by painting
them with different striping so the trucks will be able
to use those spaces in the morning hours. She stated
they are not certain how effective this will be, however,
they are trying to use this method to solve their own
problem. She indicated they would like the opportunity
to return to the Commission if this solution is not
workable. She stated some trucks will still be on the
street somewhat, however, much more of the traffic will
be off of the street.
VC/Istik asked Ms. Spatz if Jones Intercable is
withdrawing their request. Ms. Spatz responded "not
permanently". She indicated that they are withdrawing
their request for the time being but they might wish to
return to the Commission if this solution doesn't work.
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VC/Istik stated he felt strongly about the issue.
Certainly with the testimony for parking and loading and
unloading on the street on the east and west side, it is
not something to set a precedent on if at all possible.
Ms. Spatz stated she would withdraw the request for the
time being.
Chair/Ortiz asked that the minutes reflect Ms. Spatz
request and all Commission comments be stopped.
C. Request by a resident to install flashing beacons or
pedestrian signal with a crosswalk on Diamond Bar
Boulevard at Quail Summit Drive.
SE/Liu stated that staff recommends that the Commission
discuss this matter and concur with staff to conduct a
warrant study on Diamond Bar Boulevard at Quail Summit
Drive to ascertain if a pedestrian crosswalk with
flashing beacon or pedestrian signal is warranted.
VC/Istik stated that having tried to cross there he
agrees with staff's recommendation.
C/Chavers stated that he views these types of solutions
with a great deal of trepidation and wonders if a signal
might be warranted at that location.
C/Leonard stated that at the minimum the location should
have a pedestrian crosswalk. She indicated she feels a
traffic signal might better serve the area and at the
minimum she would vote for a warrant study.
C/Chavers asked if it would be possible to do both
warrants concurrently so that the Commission has all of
the data available. SE/Liu stated staff would comply
with C/Chavers request.
VC/Istik stated he has been involved recently with two
flashing beacons in Walnut and so far they have stopped
the number of accidents on Grand Avenue.
Chair/Ortiz stated that crosswalks are false barriers
without educating the pedestrians and in essence, they
are not safe. He suggested the City implement some kind
of educational program to notify the proper method for
using crosswalks.
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Responding to Chair/Ortiz, Sgt. Rawlings stated that upon
request of a school the Crime Prevention Unit will give
presentations on traffic safety.
In response to C/Chavers, Sgt. Rawlings stated that
Deputy Bryant teaches the Traffic Safety program. His
agenda does not include teaching children how to use
crosswalks. The program includes substance abuse and
gangs, etc.
Chair/Ortiz suggested the Commission research a
pedestrian safety education program for school children.
A motion was made by C/Chavers and seconded by C/Leonard
that the Commission concur with staff's recommendation to
conduct warrant studies regarding a pedestrian crosswalk
at Diamond Bar Boulevard at Quail Summit Drive with an
amendment to include warrant analysis for traffic signal
purposes as well so that the Commission has all of the
available data to make its evaluation.
VC/Istik asked if C/Chavers included flashing beacons as
part of the motion with traffic signals as a third item.
C/Chavers responded that to him, this is all a part of
the pedestrian crosswalk analysis.
The motion was approved 4-0 with the following roll call:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Chavers, Leonard,
VC/Istik, Chair/Ortiz
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN. COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Gravdahl
VII. STATUS OF PREVIOUS ACTION ITEMS.
A. Installation of stop signs at the Legs of residential T-
- intersections (Cold Spring Lane at Barbi Lane, Cold
Spring Lane at Ambushers Street, and Gold Run Drive at
Running Branch Road).
SE/Liu stated this item was approved by the City Council
on February 7, 1995. The work order will be given to the
County and should be installed in about a month.
SE/Liu further stated that at the February 7, 1995
VIII.ITEMS FROM COMMISSIONERS
C/Chavers commended staff on the Diamond Bar Boulevard
Rehabilitation Project.
VC/Istik asked for a status on the change of speed limits for
some of the residential streets from 30 to 25 MPH. SE/Liu
responded that this item will likely be agendized for the
first week in April. He stated he has conveyed the wishes of
the Commission and the City Manager understands this will be
included in a future meeting. Staff is currently writing the
report. He indicated he will attempt to have the item placed
on the March 21 agenda, otherwise it will be on the agenda for
April.
VC/Istik stated that he favors going back to 25 MPH on the
double loaded streets in the City that have a very narrow
pavement in each direction.
VC/Istik stated he had a handout for the Commission so that
they could see what kind of report C/Chavers makes when he is
making a presentation to another City's City Council.
Chair/Ortiz asked VC/Istik to make a copy for staff.
C/Chavers stated it clearly presents what kind of records can
be kept in the way of meeting minutes. He indicated in some
instances City's he presents to will say "applicant
presentation made by Todd Chavers" and he may have talked for
30 minutes and answered 30 minutes of questions. Other times
he sees very complete meeting minutes like the one VC/Istik
has handed out. He encouraged the Commission and staff to
look at the handout from that perspective and get a feel for
whether or not this is a direction the Commission might take.
Chair/Ortiz stated that this is a further strengthening of
VC/Istik's comments on meeting minutes that they should be
complete and concise.
C/Chavers stated that he would use the term "salient".
VC/Chavers indicated that he had expressed some rather harsh
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meeting
the City Council awarded the
construction
contract
to Macadee Electric, Inc. for the
Golden Springs
Drive traffic
signals. Construction is
scheduled to
begin in
April and should be completed by
June.
VIII.ITEMS FROM COMMISSIONERS
C/Chavers commended staff on the Diamond Bar Boulevard
Rehabilitation Project.
VC/Istik asked for a status on the change of speed limits for
some of the residential streets from 30 to 25 MPH. SE/Liu
responded that this item will likely be agendized for the
first week in April. He stated he has conveyed the wishes of
the Commission and the City Manager understands this will be
included in a future meeting. Staff is currently writing the
report. He indicated he will attempt to have the item placed
on the March 21 agenda, otherwise it will be on the agenda for
April.
VC/Istik stated that he favors going back to 25 MPH on the
double loaded streets in the City that have a very narrow
pavement in each direction.
VC/Istik stated he had a handout for the Commission so that
they could see what kind of report C/Chavers makes when he is
making a presentation to another City's City Council.
Chair/Ortiz asked VC/Istik to make a copy for staff.
C/Chavers stated it clearly presents what kind of records can
be kept in the way of meeting minutes. He indicated in some
instances City's he presents to will say "applicant
presentation made by Todd Chavers" and he may have talked for
30 minutes and answered 30 minutes of questions. Other times
he sees very complete meeting minutes like the one VC/Istik
has handed out. He encouraged the Commission and staff to
look at the handout from that perspective and get a feel for
whether or not this is a direction the Commission might take.
Chair/Ortiz stated that this is a further strengthening of
VC/Istik's comments on meeting minutes that they should be
complete and concise.
C/Chavers stated that he would use the term "salient".
VC/Chavers indicated that he had expressed some rather harsh
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words because he was upset. He does not think it is the place
of the City Manager to stand between an advisory body and the
Council that appointed that advisory body. He stated he has
never seen anything like that reflected in the meeting
minutes. He further stated that he is certain that his words
were strong enough that they came through on the tape. He is
troubled that some things that he thinks should be there and
are salient are not getting included. He indicated he is not
sure he has the answer as to how to do that but this is a good
place to look at it and see if this is a better direction to
go. He stated he thinks we do a good job, we can always do
better.
Chair/Ortiz stated he remembers the meeting.
Chair/Ortiz inquired Sgt. Rawlings about the Sheriff's
Department policy on stop signs. He asked if enforcement
begins the minute the stop signs are installed or if there a
grace period. Responding to Chair/Ortiz, Sgt. Rawlings
responded that there is no written policy regarding stops sign
enforcement. Under hazardous situations, enforcement should
begin immediately for safety reasons. With respect to the
recently installed stop signs on Brea Canyon Road at Cold
Springs Lane, he stated the Sheriff's Department was asked to
issue warnings for the first week. For non -hazardous changes
in the law there is a procedure to give a grace period.
Chair/Ortiz stated that during weddings and funerals there are
usually about 20 cars parked along the red curb at St. Denis.
Even though there are citations being issued by the Sheriff's
Department, staff should generate a letter to St. Denis
stating that when there are funerals or special events, they
instruct the parties that are going to use the grounds that
they will be cited for illegal parking.
Sgt. Rawlings stated that the Sheriff's Department is writing
citations there.
IX. ITEMS FROM STAFF
SE/Liu stated that the Commission is required to elect a
Chairperson and Vice Chairperson for a term of one year at its
first regular meeting of March. He suggested that this item
be agendized for the April meeting.
CE/Myers presented the Commission with a copy of the
preliminary design report for the Golden Springs Drive Bike
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Lane project. He said the item will go before the City
Council in April with a request for authorization to solicit
bids. The item will then be returned to the Council in May
with a request for authorization to award a contract.
Construction is scheduled to begin the middle of May and to be
completed the middle of June. This project and schedule is
expending some third year SBA 821 fund before they are lost.
At first blush the project seemed very straight forward. Upon
detail study, some complications did arise. The parking as it
exists in the northern end, particularly from Sylvan Glen Road
to Temple Avenue, makes it very difficult if not impossible to
fit all of the traffic lanes, bicycle lanes, parking lanes and
turn lanes into a 64 foot roadway. Staff recommends and is
proceeding to defer this portion to a second phase improvement
project allowing more time for study. The first phase will be
the introduction of the bicycle lane each side of Golden
Springs Drive from Diamond Bar Boulevard to Sylvan Glen Road.
Primarily this is a striping project. The portion of Golden
Springs Drive from Platina Drive to Diamond Bar Boulevard is
currently two to three hundred feet of posted "No Stopping".
CE/Myers asked that the "No Stopping Any Time" on Golden
Springs Drive from Diamond Bar Boulevard to Sylvan Glen Road
issue be agendized for the April Traffic and Transportation
Commission meeting and return to the April City Council
meeting for recommendation for authorization to advertise.
CE/Myers indicated he can anticipate the public concern about
no -stopping because it does remove a number of parking spaces
that are approximate to the school on Golden Springs Drive.
The overall available supply of curb parking spaces would not
be diminished below what is necessary to provide pickup and
delivery, although there is some inconvenience involved. Most
parents prefer to use the Golden Springs Drive frontage road
and Ballena Drive for loading and unloading. All of the other
immediately adjacent land uses do not take direct access from
Golden Springs Drive and do not appear to have pedestrian or
useable access but take access from the side streets or the
frontage roads.
C/Chavers asked why this was presented as an informational
item rather than an agenda item. CE/Myers responded the
design report was completed only over the last week and was
not ready for presentation at the time the agenda was prepared
for the Commission.
C/Chavers asked if staff would intend to have a public meeting
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in the hour prior to the public workshop at the next meeting.
CE/Myers responded that that is his recommendation. C/Chavers
asked if there has been a meeting scheduled with the principal
of Golden Springs Elementary School. CE/Myers responded that
prior to the next meeting he would do that. There are no
prepared plans available at this time. That will occur over
the next two to three weeks. C/Chavers stated that there are
no separate left turn lanes at Golden Springs Drive and High
Knob Road. Since there are two different street
configurations on Golden Springs Drive will staff consider
using what is at the north end as a template bringing that to
the south end. He asked how badly does the City need left
turn lanes and will that be a part of the analysis. CE/Myers
responded that it has not been a part of the analysis on Phase
I. The intention was to perpetuate the turning lanes that are
currently in existence. The reason for Phase II is because
there are many more issues to be dealt with than appeared at
the outset of the project.
C/Chavers stated that it is inevitable that someone will say,
"rather than lose the parking in front of the school, why not
do it like it is up north?". The Commission and staff need to
be prepared to answer that question prior to embarking upon a
public meeting or the Commission will look very foolish. He
encourage CE/Myers to meet with the principal, Mr. Mangham and
Kathy Nolan, the head of the PTA at the school.
VC/Istik stated that the school district can use the streets
for drop off and in so doing, it takes away the original use
for which the street was intended and that is to move people.
C/Leonard asked for clarification that the Phase I is
primarily the "no stopping" issue and Phase II is for
construction of the bike lanes. CE/Myers responded that Phase
II is to primarily be able to construct a bicycle lane from
Diamond Bar Boulevard to Sylvan Glen Road on both sides of the
roadway. The most significant complication is the necessity
to install "No Stopping Any Time" in areas which now enjoy
parking and particularly in front of the school.
Chair/Ortiz asked if funds were available for a bicycle safety
program for the local schools. CE/Myers responded that he
believes the funds are for constructing bicycle and pedestrian
facilities and improvements. He is not aware of funds for
educational programs. SE/Liu reiterated that the SB 821 funds
are not available for educational programs. Sgt. Rawlings
stated the Sheriff's Department could conduct educational
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programs upon request. The Crime Prevention Deputy that the
City has under contract could perform those duties.
Chair/Ortiz asked staff to look into have this service
performed at the local schools.
C/Chavers asked if it changed the City's O&M and if the City
has to sweep the bike lanes more often and keep them clean so
that people will use them and does the street lighting have to
be changed in any way to accommodate the bike lane users.
CE/Myers responded that he is not aware of any requirement for
additional street lighting.
Responding to C/Chavers, Sgt. Rawlings stated that the
Sheriff's Department has pamphlets that address bicycle safety
and the text could be used in City publications.
Responding to Chair/Ortiz, CE/Myers stated he needs no action
from the Commission this evening and asked if the Commission
wishes to agendize this item for its next meeting.
C/Leonard asked if the agenda items could be accomplished in
the hour preceding the workshop. SE/Liu responded that he
believed it could be done.
C/Chavers stated he does not believe an hour will be
sufficient for the regular meeting agenda and would prefer a
meeting the week prior to the workshop meeting.
Chair/Ortiz stated he agrees with C/Chavers.
SE/Liu suggested that the regular meeting could begin at 6:00
p.m. and the workshop could begin at 7:30 or 8:00 p.m.
VC/Istik stated written comments could be accepted if people
have plans to be out of town.
SE/Liu indicated that the residents will have three and one-
half weeks to give their responses. He suggested that the
workshop could be moved to April 6.
C/Chavers stated he thought there was more urgency with
respect to the bike lanes. His preference would be to conduct
the regular meeting on April 6 and have the workshop on April
13.
C/Chavers indicated that he is concerned with the appearance
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of bringing an unagendized item before the Commission so that
the report to the Council can say staff ran it by the Traffic
and Transportation Commission and feels this would put the
Commission in a very embarrassing position.
VC/Istik stated he would hope that reports handed out at the
meeting are not forwarded to Council as reviewed items.
C/Chavers stated that the process leaves him very
uncomfortable. He indicated he can see people showing up for
a meeting asking why the Commission is bothering to have a
public meeting when the Council has already approved the item.
CE/Myers stated that the authorization to bid could be moved
to the April 18 City Council meeting and the award contract
could be moved to the second Council meeting in May.
C/Chavers stated the Commission could hold its public meeting
on March 30 which would put the item ahead of the Council
meeting.
VC/Istik suggested that if the Commission is having a separate
meeting and it is being done based on something the Council
has already talked about he would rather not have the meeting
or meet sooner.
C/Chavers suggested March 30 for the public meeting. Without
objection, the Commission concurred. CE/Myers responded that
he would have substantially completed plans and
specifications.
VC/Istik asked if the 30 MPH to 25 MPH streets that the
Commission voted on in December could be forwarded to the
Council. He stated he is concerned with what was discussed at
the last meeting about the item being put off until after the
General Plan is adopted. CE/Myers responded that it might be
appropriate for a member of the Commission work directly with
the Mayor and reiterated the importance of putting this matter
before the City Council. There has been a lot of businesses
before the City Council. The agenda is created, set and
published by the City Manager and the Mayor. SE/Liu
reiterated that the City Manager is aware of this item and has
given him direction to proceed and staff is compiling the
information which will be forwarded to the City Council on
March 21 or April 4.
C/Leonard stated her willingness to speak with the Mayor
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regarding the item. VC/Istik responded that he does not want
to hang something on the timing of the General Plan. There
has been testimony from Mr. Clute this evening and others have
spoken regarding the item and there has been concurrence from
Sgt. Rawlings to take the 30 MPH down to 25 MPH where it used
to be.
SE/Liu recommended that the meeting be adjourned to March 30,
1995 at 7:00 p.m. at the South Coast Air Quality Management
District Building and the room number will be determined.
Chair/Ortiz requested that staff provide an updated list of
all Commissioners with their names, telephone numbers,
addresses and their appointors. SE/Liu responded since there
will be a reorganization of the Traffic and Transportation
Commission, the list will be provided following that meeting
with the updated information.
X. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS - None
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Ortiz declared the meeting to adjourned at 9:22 p.m.
Attest:
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Mh Orti
Chairman
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Respectfully,
avid G. Liu
Secretary