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CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MINUTES OF THE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 10, 1994
CALL TO ORDER
Vice Chairman Istik called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. at the
South Coast Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD) Hearing Room,
21865 East Copley Drive, Diamond Bar, California.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Commissioner
Esposito.
ROLL CALL
Vice Chairman Istik stated that Chairman Ortiz would be absent
and excused from the meeting.
Commissioners: Esposito, Chavers, Gravdahl, VC/Intik.
Staff: Senior Engineer, David Liu; Administrative
Assistant, Tseday Aberra; Sergeant Rawlings,
and Recording Secretary, Carol Dennis.
I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. Meetings of September 8, 1994 and October 13, 1994.
Motion was made by C/Chavers and seconded by
C/Gravdahl to accept the Minutes as presented.
The Motion was passed with the following ROLL CALL
vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
II. COMMISSION COMMENTS
COMMISSIONERS: VC/Istik Chavers,
Gravdahl, Esposito
COMMISSIONERS: None
COMMISSIONERS: None
COMMISSIONERS: Chair/Ortiz
C/Gravdahl stated that he attended the City On -Line Technical
Advisory Committee meeting and participated in a discussion
regarding more uses for the bulletin board. One idea is to
put the bus schedules on the discount passes and devise a ride
share program for the citizens of Diamond Bar and for the
senior citizens.
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III. PUBLIC COMMENTS
Oscar Law, 21511 Pathfinder Road, stated he is very pleased
that David Liu was able to complete the restriping of the
parking lot at Heritage Park. He requested that the City
contemplate doing away with the holiday shuttle.
Wilbur Smith, 21630 Fair Wind Lane suggested a traffic light
synchronization be conducted at the intersection of Diamond
Bar Boulevard and Brea Canyon Road because of the heavy
through traffic and construction on Diamond Bar Boulevard.
SE/Liu responded that the Diamond Bar Boulevard Project is a
street improvement project only. Staff has identified the
Brea Canyon Road and Diamond Bar Boulevard interesection as a
potential future capital improvement project which will
include traffic signal modification/synchronization.
Currently, to facilitate the construction activities, the
signals have been put on vehicle recall.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR - None
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. Request by Evangelical Free Church of Diamond Bar to park
along southbound Diamond Bar Boulevard between Crooked
Creek Drive and Brea Canyon Road on Sundays.
AA/Aberra stated this matter was brought before the
Traffic and Transportation Commission on October 13,
1994. It is a request by the Evangelical Free Church of
Diamond Bar to park along southbound Diamond Bar
Boulevard between Crooked Creek Drive and Brea Canyon
Road on Sundays.
SE/Liu stated that staff recommends the Traffic and
Transportation Commission deny the request to grant
parking along the southbound Diamond Bar Boulevard
between Crooked Creek Drive and Brea Canyon Road on
Sundays due to the presence of the existing 10' wide bike
lane striping and the anticipated future improvements of
Diamond Bar Boulevard/Brea Canyon Road intersection.
As future improvements, the 450' long taper for the,
double left -turn lane will commence approximately at the
church's entry driveway and will end on the northside of
Cherrydale Drive.
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According to Caltrans Traffic Manual, Figure 6-23,
parking is prohibited where a 4' minimum wide bike lane
exists adjacent to a curb and gutter profile which is the
case that will exist along the section of Diamond Bar
Boulevard between the Church entrance driveway and Brea
Canyon Road. With respect to any requests to allow
parking in a bike lane, Figure 6-25 of Caltrans Traffic
Manual permits curb parking only in situations where the
6" solid bike lane line is 11' minimum distance from the
curb or edge of pavement, thereby allowing a 5' minimum
bike lane width and a 61 minimum vehicle parking width
directly adjacent to the curb. At St. Denis Church, the
existing bike lane width is 131.
C/Chavers stated that at the October 13, 1994 meeting,
the Traffic and Transportation Commission recommended a
temporary solution pending further investigation and
asked if staff relayed the temporary recommendation to
City Council.
SE/Liu responded that the recommendation was not
presented to the City Council.
C/Chavers commented that he feels it was a sound
engineering judgement to not relay the Commission
recommendation to City Council to provide 90 days of
temporary parking in light of the information uncovered;
however, if the Traffic and Transportation Commission
makes a recommendation which is to be passed along to
City Council, it should be done and staff should not make
an arbitrary decision to hold up the recommendation.
Mark Hopper, 1125 Grubstake Drive, stated that he is one
of the pastors of the Evangelical Free Church. He echoed
his disappointment and frustration that one month ago the
church members left the Traffic and Transportation
Commission meeting with the understanding that the
request for 90 -day temporary parking would be placed on
the next City Council agenda and that did not happen.
The church would appreciate the opportunity to park on
Diamond Bar Boulevard just as St. Denis was permitted to
park.
SE/Liu commented the bike lane in front of St. Denis
Church is 13' wide whereas the bike lane in front of
Evangelical Free Church is 101.
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Charles Hughes, 23209 Sabana Drive, asked if the street
in front of St. Denis is the same width as the street in
front of Evangelical Free Church, and if the only
difference is the width of the painted bike lanes, would
it be any safer for bicyclists.
C/Chavers asked if there is there any reason the bike
lane width cannot be uniform along Diamond Bar Boulevard.
SE/Liu responded that the striping of the bike lanes
restructuring could be done during the resurfacing
project currently in process on Diamond Bar Boulevard.
A motion was made by C/Chavers and seconded by C/Gravdahl
to deny staff's recommendation and, instead, to request
the staff to relay to City Council the request for
curbside parking on the west side of Diamond Bar
Boulevard between Crooked Creek Drive and Brea Canyon
Road on Sundays be allowed until such time as the double
left turn lane is installed on southbound Diamond Bar
Boulevard at Brea Canyon Road. Furthermore, the current
bike lane width should be increased to 13' as part of the
Diamond Bar Boulevard Street Rehabilitation Project. As
a condition, Evangelical Free Church will send a letter
to the City Council indicating their understanding of
these conditions. The motion was carried unanimously
with the following ROLL CALL vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: VC/Istik, Chavers, Gravdahl,
Esposito
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Chair/Ortiz
B. Request to install "No overnight Parking" signs on
Washington street between Brea Canyon Road and Lincoln
Avenue.
AA/Aberra reported a resident's request for "No Overnight
Parking" signs on Washington Street between Brea Canyon
Road and Lincoln Avenue. This request is a result of the
resident's observation of abandoned vehicles on
Washington Street.
Staff observed Washington Street between Brea Canyon Road ...�
and Lincoln Avenue on several occasions and did not find
any abandoned vehicles. If abandoned vehicles are found
parked on said street, as the resident indicates, the
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appropriate action would be to contact the Sheriff's
Department.
At this time, staff does not feel it is necessary to
install "No Overnight Parking" signs on Washington Street
between Brea Canyon Road and Lincoln Avenue. However,
staff will continue to monitor this area in the future.
Staff recommended that the Traffic and Transportation
Commission deny the request to install "No Overnight
Parking" signs on Washington Street between Brea Canyon
Road and Lincoln Avenue.
In response to VC/Istik, Sgt. Rawlings stated that he is
not aware of an enforcement problem with this request.
The four vehicles reported had all been stolen.
A motion was made by C/Gravdahl and seconded by
C/Esposito to accept staff's recommendation. The motion
was passed unanimously with the following ROLL CALL vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: VC/Istik, Chavers, Gravdahl,
Esposito
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Chair/Ortiz
C. Neighborhood Traffic Study for the Pathfinder Road/Brea
Canyon Road/Diamond Bar Boulevard triangle area.
SE/Liu reported that following a discussion at the
October 13, 1994 Traffic and Transportation Commission
meeting, the request for a traffic study on Fountain
Springs Road indicated the need for a comprehensive
neighborhood traffic study of the area bounded by
Pathfinder Road, Brea Canyon Road, and Diamond Bar
Boulevard. At this time, staff is proposing to request
proposals from qualified engineering firms to conduct
this study. With such intention, staff would like to
solicit the commission's input in further defining the
scope of work for the neighborhood traffic study.
It is recommended that the Traffic and Transportation
Commission concur with staff's recommendation to procure
a qualified traffic engineering firm to conduct the
neighborhood traffic study for the area bounded by
Pathfinder Road/Brea Canyon Road/Diamond Bar Boulevard.
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Craig Clute, 21217 Fountain Springs Road, presented a
multi-purpose petition to the Traffic and Transportation
Commission, copy of which was presented to the City
Council on October 18, 1994. This petition requests a
traffic study of Fountain Springs along with the requests
for solutions to the traffic problems. The petition also
supports the Traffic and Transportation Commission's
recommendation to conduct a study of the area bounded by
Pathfinder Road/Brea Canyon Road/Diamond Bar Boulevard.
VC/Istik recommended the verbiage used in the petition be
referred to the consultant when conducting the traffic
study.
C/Gravdahl asked if the Commission were to concur, how
long it would take for completion of the study.
SE/Liu responded that there is considerable data
available and with the additional information gathered by
the consultant, the study would take 60 to 90 days.
A motion was made by C/Gravdahl to have C/Chavers work
with SE/Liu to set up the scope of work and budget for
the neighborhood traffic study. The motion was carried
unanimously with the following ROLL CALL vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: VC/Istik, Chavers, Gravdahl,
Esposito
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Chair/Ortiz
V1. NEW BUSINESS
A. 25 MPH prima facie speed limit on residential streets.
SE/Liu reported under California Law, the maximum speed
limit for any passenger vehicle is 55 miles per hour
(mph). All other speed limits are prima facie limits,
which "on the face of it", are safe and prudent under
normal conditions. Certain »rima facie limits are
established by law and include the 25 mph limit in
business and residential districts; the 15 mph limit in
alleys, at blind intersections and railroad grade
crossings; and a part-time 25 mph in school zones when
children are going to and from school.
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Intermediate speed limits between 25 mph and 55 mph may
be established by local authorities on the basis of
traffic engineering surveys. Such surveys include the
analysis of roadway conditions, accident records, and the
prevailing speed of drivers using the roadway under
study.
The Commission's concern has to do with the surveyed
speed limits on some residential streets versus the 25
mph prima facie speed limits for residential streets.
It is recommended that the Traffic and Transportation
Commission consider a policy statement for establishing
speed limits on residential streets after the adoption of
a General Plan.
C/Gravdahl recommended the Commission table this item
until after the General Plan is completed.
VC/Istik stated his concern with waiting until the
General Plan is completed. He said that the General Plan
would identify some or all of the subject streets as
residential collector streets in lieu of residential
streets. He asked SE/Liu what effect this might have on
the speed limit.
SE/Liu responded according to the California Vehicle Code
a local street or road is defined as follows: A local
street or road primarily provides access to abutting
residential property and shall meet the following three
conditions:
(1) Roadway width of not more than 40 feet.
(2) Not more than one-half mile of uninterrupted
length.
(3) Not more than one traffic lane in each
direction.
SE/Liu continued that the purpose of the speed survey is
to allow the Sheriff's Department to enforce speed limits
by radar or other electronic equipment.
C/Chavers indicated that he would like to see a maximum
speed limit
of 25 mph on residential streets. He stated
residential
collector is not
an appropriate title.
Streets should be local streets
However, he wants a public forum
or residential streets.
for this decision making
'
process and
concurs with staff's
recommendation to table
the matter.
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In response to VC/Istik, Sgt. Rawlings stated radar could
be utilized in a one-half mile length from start to stop.
A motion was made by VC/Istik and seconded by C/Chavers
to have staff provide the California Vehicle Code
criteria in a tabular form and table the matter to the
next Traffic and Transportation Commission meeting. The
motion was carried unanimously with the following ROLL
CALL vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: VC/Istik, Chavers, Gravdahl,
Esposito
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Chair/Ortiz
B. Issue: Addressing future requests for bott dots on
residential streets.
SE/Liu reported the Department of Public Works receives
various requests from residents on a regular basis. one l
such request the department has received in the past is
for installation of bott dots on residential streets. He -w
explained the process that the department undertook
regarding the bott dots request.
It is recommended that the Traffic and Transportation
Commission concur with staff's approach in
implementing/ installing bott dots on residential streets.
Furthermore, it is recommended that any future requests
for bott dots on residential streets be processed
administratively through the Department of Public Works.
A motion was made by C/Chavers and seconded by C/Gravdahl
that all future requests for bott dots be brought before
the Traffic and Transportation Commission. The motion
was carried unanimously with the following ROLL CALL
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
VC/Istik, Chavers,
Gravdahl, Esposito
None
None
Chair/Ortiz
VII. STATUS OF PREVIOUS ACTION ITEMS - None
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VIII. ITEMS FROM COMMISSIONERS
A. Request to install 3 -way stop signs on Cold Spring Lane
at Barbi Lane and Ambushers Street.
SE/Liu requested the item be continued to the next
Traffic and Transportation Commission meeting since the
item had been put on the agenda by Chair/Ortiz.
Wilbur Smith, 21630 Fair Wind Lane stated the two streets
mentioned are escape paths for the Diamond Ridge tract
onto Diamond Bar Boulevard.
IX. ITEMS FROM STAFF - None
X. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
A. Eligible uses of Proposition A and C Local Return Funds.
C/Chavers indicated that the Traffic and Transportation
Commission received a listing from staff of the eligible
uses of Proposition A and C Local Return Funds. He
stated his intention was to receive a report showing how
the monies had actually been used.
SE/Liu responded that the City Manager's office has
completed a memo discussing various eligible programs.
This memo is scheduled to be presented to the City
Council.
C/Chavers requested a copy of the memo for the December
Traffic and Transportation Commission meeting.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
The motion was made, seconded and carried unanimously to
adjourn the meeting at 9:05 p.m.
Respectfully,
avid G. Liu
Secretary
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