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CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MINUTES OF THE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION
AUGUST 13, 1992
CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Chavers called the meeting to order at
6:40 p.m. at the South Coast Air Quality Management
District Room, 21865 East Copley Drive, Diamond
Bar, California.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners: Ury, Cheng, Beke, and Chairman
Chavers. Vice Chairman Gravdahl was absent.
Also present were Associate Engineer David Liu,
Administrative Analyst Tseday Aberra, Sergeant
Rawlings, and Contract Secretary Liz Myers.
MINUTES:
July 9, 1992 C/Beke requested that the minutes be amended on
page 5, fifth paragraph, to indicate "marking the
crosswalk would not necessarily improve the safety
reasons. and page 8, seventh paragraph, to
indicate "two-way left hand turn lanes".
Motion was made by C/Beke, seconded by C/Ury and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY approve the Minutes of July 9,
1992, as amended.
COMMISSION C/Ury stated that he had been under the impression
COMMENTS: that the issue of improving medians was in a
preliminary stage, and not a final action.
CONSENT CALENDAR: Chair/Chavers requested item C be pulled from the
Consent Calendar to allow for public comment.
C/Ury requested item B be pulled from the Consent
Calendar. He will be abstaining from voting on the
matter because he lives on the indicated street.
Motion was made by C/Beke, seconded by C/Ury and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to approve items A, D, and E of
the Consent Calendar.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
Motion was made by
Chair/Chavers and CARRIED
Consent Calendar.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
Ury, Beke, Cheng, and
Chair/Chavers.
None.
None.
VC/Gravdahl.
C/Beke , seconded by
to approve item B of the
Beke, Cheng,
Chair/Chavers.
None.
Ury.
VC/Gravdahl.
and
August 13, 1992 Page 2
Installation AE/Liu presented the staff report regarding the
"No U -Turn" request, by a resident, that "No U -Turn" signs be
signs on Grand/ installed on Grand Ave. and Cleghorn Drive.
Cleghorn Following investigation, staff has determined that
the Grand Ave./Cleghorn Dr. intersection is the
safest and most perceptible location in providing
U-turn and left -turn maneuvers for the travelling
motorists. It is recommended that the Commission
deny the request to install "No U -Turns" signs on
Grand Ave. and Cleghorn Drive.
Stan Granger, residing at 2300 Gold Nugget Ave.,
stated that because of the traffic, it is very
difficult for the residents to get on Grand Ave.
from Cleghorn Drive. Most motorists getting on the
left turn lane on Grand Ave. are making U-turns
rather than making a left turn onto Cleghorn Drive.
He presented the Commission and staff with a map
indicating the pattern being travelled by
motorists. He noted that motorists are even coming
off of Diamond Bar Blvd. onto Grand Ave. and making
a U-turn at Cleghorn Drive.
AE/Liu, in response to C/Ury, stated that staff did
not observe the pattern as indicated by Mr.
Granger. Most traffic is coming out of the
shopping center versus Diamond Bar Boulevard.
C/Beke noted that if the U-turns are prohibited at
the Grand Ave./Cleghorn Dr., then motorists will be
forced to travel further on Grand Ave. to make
their U-turn.
Motion was made by C/Ury, seconded by C/Beke and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to accept staff's
recommendation to deny the request for "No U -Turn"
signs on Grand Ave./Cleghorn Drive.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Ury, Beke, Cheng, and
Chair/Chavers.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None,
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: vC/Gravdahl.
NEW BUSINESS: AA/Aberra reported that Mr. Steve Keen and Mr.
Gerald Smith, of UMA Engineering, Inc., will
Fixed Route present a summarization of the Phase I report, of
Deviation the Fixed Route Deviation Transit Program, and
Transit Prog. introduce what Phase II of the study will entail.
This matter was presented to the Commission prior
to Old Business items at the request of UMA
Engineering, Inc.
can have a higher fare; the shopping/service trips
can be a more flexible, but reliable service, that
should have a lower fare; of the route options
considered, he recommended two different systems -
one for the peak periods (7:00-9:00 a.m. and 4:00-
7:00 p.m.) and one for the off peak periods (9:00
a.m.-4:00 p.m.); he reviewed the various loop route
options, and stated that he prefers option 1 for
the off peak period, and option 1 for the peak
periods: the average cost for both options added
together is $797,500; there is a Proposition A
reserve of $400,000 for 1991/92, and $485,000 for
1992/93; if Diamond Bar were to join the Pomona
Valley Transit authority in running this system,
Diamond Bar would then qualify for Proposition A
discretionary funds of between $30,000 to $90,000 a
year; the fare box is in the range of $10,000 to
$50,000; the estimate funds available, on a three
year average, is $658,000 to $758,000, with
Proposition A and the fare box; the estimated funds
available, on a three year average, using
Proposition A funds, Proposition C funds (1992/93)
and the fare box is 1 million dollars; modifying
option 1, of the peak period, by using only two
dial -a -ride vans, and option 1, of the off peak
period, by using only one van on the dial -a -ride,
would reduce the total cost of the system to
$635,000, which would be affordable using
Proposition A funds; another alternative, if Bial-
a -ride proves unsuccessful in the peak periods,
would be to eliminate the van during the peak
periods and use four buses, thus costing $725,000;
August 13, 1992 Page 3
Steve Keen stated that UMA Engineering, Inc. has
studied an array of options before coming up with
the recommendation for a Fixed Route Deviation
Transit Program. The study scope of Phase I was
looking to gage support for transit in Diamond Bar,
identify the potential markets that transit could
serve, evaluate the various route lay out options,
and the financing for the preferred route lay out.
Phase II would be more of a detail design of the
transit system. He then made the following
summarization of the study scope: there is a
strong support for a transit service in Diamond
Bar; 48% of the ridership market is for school/work
trips, and 52% is for shopping/service trips; with
any system developed, most of the ridership will be
generated from the main roads in Diamond Bar; it is
recommended that the transit system not be
considered outside of Diamond Bar because the work
locations, of those residents working outside of
the City, are scattered, thus having no transit
market; the school/work trips require very
reliable, on time, direct and fast service, that
can have a higher fare; the shopping/service trips
can be a more flexible, but reliable service, that
should have a lower fare; of the route options
considered, he recommended two different systems -
one for the peak periods (7:00-9:00 a.m. and 4:00-
7:00 p.m.) and one for the off peak periods (9:00
a.m.-4:00 p.m.); he reviewed the various loop route
options, and stated that he prefers option 1 for
the off peak period, and option 1 for the peak
periods: the average cost for both options added
together is $797,500; there is a Proposition A
reserve of $400,000 for 1991/92, and $485,000 for
1992/93; if Diamond Bar were to join the Pomona
Valley Transit authority in running this system,
Diamond Bar would then qualify for Proposition A
discretionary funds of between $30,000 to $90,000 a
year; the fare box is in the range of $10,000 to
$50,000; the estimate funds available, on a three
year average, is $658,000 to $758,000, with
Proposition A and the fare box; the estimated funds
available, on a three year average, using
Proposition A funds, Proposition C funds (1992/93)
and the fare box is 1 million dollars; modifying
option 1, of the peak period, by using only two
dial -a -ride vans, and option 1, of the off peak
period, by using only one van on the dial -a -ride,
would reduce the total cost of the system to
$635,000, which would be affordable using
Proposition A funds; another alternative, if Bial-
a -ride proves unsuccessful in the peak periods,
would be to eliminate the van during the peak
periods and use four buses, thus costing $725,000;
August 13, 1992 Page 4
in regards to utilizing the Commuter Rail and a
future commuter rail station on Grand
Ave.(1994/95), he suggested that Diamond Bar first
determine the demand, and then determine if Diamond
Bar has a role in taking people to the commuter
rail station; and he suggested that, if this system
does get going, Diamond Bar join the Pomona Valley
Transit.
Chair/Chavers noted that just because transit is
supported, it does not necessarily mean that it
will be used. Furthermore, the main issue at hand
is not ridership and routes, but rather if it makes
financial sense to go forward.
C/Beke stated that the study shows that two thirds
of the people feel transit is needed, but only one
third of the people will use it, sometimes. The
fare box revenues will not even be 5% of the
operational costs. It appears that Proposition A
funds are about to be used to run empty buses to
connect to empty trains.
Gerald Smith stated that one of the aspects of
phase two will be a recommendation of a set of
service standards. If the scenario depicted by
C/Beke is accurate, then it will be recommended
that Diamond Bar take the service off.
A member of the audience, a resident, stated that
she is in support of a transit system. She pointed
out that the park -n -ride users would also support
such a system, and that children could use the bus
to go to movies and other activities, if the system
runs into residential areas.
The Commission approved the recommendation to
receive and file this report.
®LD BUSINESS:
Diamond Bar AE/Liu presented the staff report regarding the
Boulevard/ request to investigate the intersection of Diamond
Fountain Springs Bar Blvd. and Fountain Springs Road. Based upon
investigation, staff believes that the sight
distance can be improved significantly by modifying
the existing wall and trimming the cedars presently
in place. Furthermore, it is believed that the no
parking on the northside to be more important than
the restriction on the south side of Fountain
Springs. Staff recommended that, based on the cost
and impact on Diamond Bar Blvd. traffic, additional
design modifications should be made only if the
proposed modifications do not prove adequate. It
AE/Liu explained that ICE/Wentz is currently
working with the property owner, with the
intentions of modifying the existing wall. If the
recommendations made by staff do not fulfill the
concern expressed by the residents, then the
modifications on Diamond Blvd., as suggested by the
Commission at the last meeting, will be
investigated.
C/Beke stated that the existing problem is that
motorists need to get further out into the
intersection to see oncoming traffic. If this can
be accomplished by other means, why go through the
expense of lowering the wall.
AE/Liu stated that staff intends only to do the red
curbing at this time, as an interim solution.
Fred Scalzo, President of the Diamond Bar Chamber
of Commerce, stated that they oppose the extent
that the red curb is to be painted. Red curbing,
passed 40 feet on the north side of Fountain
Springs, from the stop line on Diamond Bar Blvd.,
or passed the driveway on the south side of
Fountain Springs, removes a substantial number of
parking spaces. He indicated that the most
effective solution to the safety problem may be a
traffic light, if it is so warranted.
C/Beke noted that staff's original recommendation
had been to paint only 50 feet of the curb red.
The property owner of the business complex, Dr. Cho
opposed the extent of the proposed red curbing.
Sgt. Rawlings noted that the Fountain Springs
intersection has had 9 traffic collisions in a 28
month period of time, or an average of 1 every
three months, but that Grand Ave., between Cleghorn
and Gold Nugget has had 14 traffic collisions in a
slightly longer period of time. The problem may
August 13, 1992 `'Page 5
is recommended that staff complete a detailed
cost
estimate to improve the sight distance on
the Long
property, that the curb on the north
side of
Fountain Springs Road from Diamond Bar
Blvd. to
Rising Star be authorized to be red, and
that the
south side of Fountain Springs Road between the two
drives be red curbed.
C/Beke stated that the Commission had
requested
staff to also investigate a right turn
lane in,
narrowing the bike lane, and pulling the
stop line
out as much as ten feet.
AE/Liu explained that ICE/Wentz is currently
working with the property owner, with the
intentions of modifying the existing wall. If the
recommendations made by staff do not fulfill the
concern expressed by the residents, then the
modifications on Diamond Blvd., as suggested by the
Commission at the last meeting, will be
investigated.
C/Beke stated that the existing problem is that
motorists need to get further out into the
intersection to see oncoming traffic. If this can
be accomplished by other means, why go through the
expense of lowering the wall.
AE/Liu stated that staff intends only to do the red
curbing at this time, as an interim solution.
Fred Scalzo, President of the Diamond Bar Chamber
of Commerce, stated that they oppose the extent
that the red curb is to be painted. Red curbing,
passed 40 feet on the north side of Fountain
Springs, from the stop line on Diamond Bar Blvd.,
or passed the driveway on the south side of
Fountain Springs, removes a substantial number of
parking spaces. He indicated that the most
effective solution to the safety problem may be a
traffic light, if it is so warranted.
C/Beke noted that staff's original recommendation
had been to paint only 50 feet of the curb red.
The property owner of the business complex, Dr. Cho
opposed the extent of the proposed red curbing.
Sgt. Rawlings noted that the Fountain Springs
intersection has had 9 traffic collisions in a 28
month period of time, or an average of 1 every
three months, but that Grand Ave., between Cleghorn
and Gold Nugget has had 14 traffic collisions in a
slightly longer period of time. The problem may
August 13, 1992 Page 6
not be as serious as originally stated.
Furthermore, red curbing passed a few feet would
probably not relieve any traffic collisions that
may occur at this intersection.
Ken Anderson pointed out that 7 of those 9 traffic
collisions on Fountain Springs have occurred in the
last year. He noted that the original request was
for 50 feet of red curbing.
Motion was made by C/Ury, seconded by C/Beke and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to deny staff's recommendation
made this meeting, and to request staff to adhere
to the motion made previously at the July 9, 1992
meeting.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Ury, Beke, Cheng, and
Chair/Chavers.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Norte.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: VC/Gravdahl.
Soundwall on AE/Liu presented the staff report for the request
Grand Ave./Gold to construct a soundwall on Grand Ave. at Gold
Nugget Nugget Avenue. Following investigation, staff does
not recommend the construction of a soundwall or
guardrails on Grand Ave. at this time, for reason
outlined in the staff report. It is recommended
that the residents increase their slope area
landscaping via planting of trees, such as Italian
Cypress on Grand Avenue.
Nina Goncharov, residing at 23631 Gold Nugget,
stated that she feels that the City has a duty to
protect the citizens from traffic hazards. She
requested (and received) a copy of the results of
the study conducted by staff. She then made the
following comments: the noise levels, trash, fire
hazards and safety concerns make the area
unlivable; home values have decreased $100,000
since Grand Ave. opened; the estimated cost for the
construction of the soundwall seems inflated; and
the City may be liable if someone gets hurt.
Chair/Chavers requested AE/Liu to have the City
Attorney provide staff with a written statement as
to the City's actual liability in this situation.
C/Ury informed Ms. Goncharov that the residents
along Grand Avenue own the slope that back ups to
Grand Ave., and that they could plant trees, and
fire retardant bushes to mitigate some of their
concerns.
August 13, 1992
Page 7
Stan Granger, who
up to Grand Ave.,
much problem with
he is concerned
suggested that a
the speed limit
killed.
owns a lot with a slope backing
stated that he does not have as
noise as Ms. Goncharov, however,
with the traffic safety. He
guardrail be considered, or that
be reduced, before someone is
Chair/Chavers, in response to Ms. Goncharov's
concern that the Commission does not understand the
extent of the resident's problems, explained that
the Commission is only an advisory body to the City
Council. Staff has indicated that the City
currently does not have the financial capability to
construct a soundwall and/or a guardrail. The
Commission is trying to deal with this issue
technically, with the hopes of coming up with an
interim solution to alleviate the concerns
expressed.
C/Ury noted that a soundwall creates a corridor
which is likely to increase the speed traveled down
Grand Avenue. He stated that he may be willing to
consider a guardrail as an alternative.
C/Cheng concurred that a soundwall may encourage
motorist to increase speed, and that she is willing
to consider a guardrail. She pointed out that
property values may have decreased not so much
because of the opening of Grand Ave. but because of
the overall market.
C/Beke stated that an $80,000 guardrail is not
warranted for one or two accidents. The solution
to the problems mentioned could be handled by the
property owners. He suggested that the
neighborhood band together for some sort of an
assessment district to build a wall.
Nina Goncharov inquired if the Commission would be
willing to put, in writing, that it is the
residents problem, and that the City does not have
funds at this time.
Chair/Chavers stated that discussion of this
meeting will be in the minutes, which is made
available to the public. He then stated that
soundwalls, constructed on hills, notoriously do
not work well because sound travels laterally. He
is not opposed to a guardrail, and landscaping, if
the community is willing to band together to
finance it. A garden type wall may solve the
problems mentioned.
August 13, 1998 Page 8
Motion was made by C/Beke to accept staff's
recommendation denying construction of a soundwall
or guardrail, and to suggest to the property owners
to investigate planting or landscaping on the
slope.
The Motion failed for lack of a second.
Motion was made by C/Beke, seconded by C/Ury and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to accept staff's
recommendation to not build a soundwall at this
time.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Ury, Beke, Cheng, and
Chair/Chavers.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: vC/Gravdahl.
Chair/Chavers suggested that, since the City has
had a lot of discussion about maintaining
hillsides, perhaps the City should be encouraged to
explore this as an avenue of a joint effort.
Motion was made by C/Beke, seconded by C/Ury and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to direct staff to work with
the property owners to encourage them to increase
landscaping on the slope.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Ury, Beke, Cheng, and
Chair/Chavers.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: vC/Gravdahl.
Motion was made by C/Beke to accept staff's
recommendation to deny the installation of a
guardrail.
The Motion failed for lack of a second.
Sgt. Rawlings stated that it has been suggested
that a guardrail may be beneficial for the slope
areas between Rolling Knoll and Cleghorn.
Chair/Chavers noted that a guardrail, installed
behind a curve, is dangerous because it can
ricochet a car right back into traffic.
Motion was made by C/Ury, and seconded by C/Cheng
and CARRIED to deny staff's recommendation that
construction of a guardrail is not appropriate at
this time, and to direct staff to get with the
property owners to discuss developing some sort of
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participation program, and discuss technical
options of what can be done.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Ury, Cheng, and
Chair/Chavers.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Beke.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: VC/Gravdahl.
Funding traffic
AA/Aberra reported that the matter, regarding the
signals on
policy for funding traffic signals on private and
public & private
public street intersections, is brought before the
intersections
Commission to clarify the intent of item #3,
Existing Residential Subdivision, as presented in
the staff report, prior to presentation to the City
Council. Based on the criteria as presently
stated, a signal such as the one proposed for
Diamond Bar Blvd. and Shadow Canyon Drive would be
funded by the City. This differs from staff's
understanding of the intent. It is recommended
that signals at private street intersections either
be based on a pro -rated basis or be funded 100% by
the applicant.
Chair/Chavers confirmed the Commission's intentions
on the issue, as it is stated in the Minutes of the
April 9, 1992 meeting. He inquired if the policy
developed by the Commission would create a funding
conflict.
AE/Liu stated that, as of this date, the City has
not collected any money from the JCC development,
which is a development that will be contributing
their fair share towards the traffic signal at
Shadow Canyon and Diamond Bar Boulevard, nor from
"The Country".
Motion was made by C/Beke, seconded by C/Ury and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to deny staff's recommendation
and to affirm the Commission's previously stated
position, as indicated in the Minutes of April 9,
1992, that a residential subdivision street,
whether they be public or private, intersects a
public highway, a traffic signal will be paid for
100% by the City.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS:
NOES: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
Ury, Beke, Cheng, and
Chair/Chavers.
None.
None.
VC/Gravdahl.
August 13, 1992 Page 10
NEW BUSINESS:
Warrant Analysis AA/Aberra reported that, at the May 21, 1992
for crossing Commission meeting, staff was requested to
guard services establish a standard which will be utilized to
determine the public street that are warranted for
crossing guard services. It is recommended that
the Commission continue to utilize the CalTrans'
criteria to warrant crossing guards. Furthermore,
it is recommended that the Commission concur with
staff's recommendation to review and evaluate,
annually, the locations where crossing guards
currently serve in the City of Diamond Bar.
Chair/Chavers stated that the Commission had
requested that a new criteria be developed, that
would satisfy the community, to determine when
crossing guard services should be authorized.
C/Cheng, concurring with the need to develop a new
criteria, suggested that parents could be asked to
participate in the costs for crossing guards.
Motion was made by Chair/Chavers, seconded by
C/Cheng and CARRIED to deny staff's recommendation
to continue to utilize CalTrans' criteria, and to
direct staff to revisit the issue of crossing guard
warrant criteria, developing a new criteria that
will tighten our standards, then begin to evaluate
annually the locations where crossing guards
currently serve in the City of Diamond Bar.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Ury, Cheng, and
Chair/Chavers.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Beke.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: VC/Gravdahl.
Install 25 MPH AE/Liu presented the staff report regarding the
signs on request, by Mr. Hsieh, to install 25 MPH signs on
Summitridge Dr. Summitridge Drive at Leyland Drive to remind
at Leyland Dr. traffic of the speed limit in the area. It is
recommended that a 25 MPH ,speed limit sign be
installed on Summitridge at Leyland Drive to warn
traffic of the speed limit in the residential area.
Chair/Chavers stated that he does not recall
discussing Pantera Drive, as indicated in Mr.
Hsieh's letter, nor does he understand what is
being referred to as a "(downhill slope with bus
stop)". Staff's recommendation may not be
answering Mr. Hsieh's question.
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August 13, 1992 Page 11
Motion was made by Chair/Chavers, seconded by C/Ury
and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to accept staff's
recommendation, as presented, with the added caveat
that staff investigate Mr. Hsieh's letter, and that
Mr. Hsieh be contacted to assure that his concern
is being properly addressed. Staff is to get back
to the Commission with the results of the
discussion.
STATUS OF AA/Aberra reported that item E, Golden Springs
PREVIOUS ACTION Drive Name Change, went before the City Council
ITEMS: August 4, 1992. Staff was directed to contact the
property and business owners again by the Council
and inform them that the item will come before the
Council on the first meeting in September of 1992.
AE/Liu reported that the "No right Turn On Red"
sign, item C, was recently installed.
COMMISSION AA/Aberra, in response
COMMENTS: Condominium Association
on Silver Hawk Drive
removed, as indicated
Items.
to C/Beke, stated that the
requested that the red curb
at Diamond Bar Blvd. be
in item 2, of Future Agenda
Chair/Chavers commented if any cities have used
textured concrete to create crosswalks as a means
to slow down motorists.
ADJOURNMENT: Motion was made by C/Cheng, seconded by C/Beke and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to adjourn at 9:26 p.m. to
September 10, 1992.
�Respectively,
David G. Liu
Secretary