HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/24/2011 PRC MinutesCITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MINUTES OF THE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
THE GOVERNMENT CENTER HEARING BOARD ROOM
DIAMOND BAR, CA 91765
FEBRUARY 24, 2011
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Grundy called the Parks and Recreation Commission meeting to order at
7:02 p.m. in the SCAQMD/Government Center Hearing Board Room, 21865 Copley
Drive, Diamond Bar, CA 91765.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: C/Herndon led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Lew Herndon, Dave Roberto, Vice
Chairman Ted Owens and Chairman Dave Grundy.
Absent: Commissioner Benny Liang was excused.
Staff Present: Bob Rose, Community Services Director; David
Doyle, Assistant City Manager; Anthony Jordan,
Parks and Maintenance Superintendent; Christy
Murphey, Recreation Superintendent; Andee
Tarazon, Community Services Coordinator, and
Marcy Hilario, Senior Administrative Assistant.
MATTERS FROM THE AUDIENCE: None
Chair/Grundy moved Item 2.1 from Informational Items prior to the Calendar of Events.
2. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
2.1 LIBRARY UPDATE — ACM/Doyle presented staff's report.
Following his PowerPoint presentation, ACM/Doyle reported that the
current status of the Library is that it is in design and final cost estimates
are expected to come back to staff by late March. Once staff has the cost
estimates, the City will go to the Supervisor with the drawings and the
budget for approval and announcement in early April.
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VC/Owens asked if there would be any meeting rooms included.
ACM/Doyle explained that there is a very large meeting space that is not
part of the library and will be owned and maintained by the City. This
room will be available for library use. City staff asked for a list of all library
meetings held in their existing community room, which they provided, and
the City has committed to the library that they will be able to hold all of
those existing meetings in this room. This meeting room will also be used
to host Commission meetings.
VC/Owens asked if the County would share in any of the costs for the
improvements. ACM/Doyle explained that the County will fund the
improvements.
C/Herndon asked if he understood the library could possibly be
reimbursing the City $1 million a year for use of the space. ACM/Doyle
responded no, and went on to explain that the library uses the $1 million
for salaries, administrative costs, maintenance costs, etc. and pays no
rent. The size of the new library will be significantly larger and there will
have to be an increase in staffing to off -set the increase in size and to off-
set those additional operating costs. The grand total of rent the City will
likely negotiate for the library space will be about $1 per year. What the
City gets is an asset for this community. The residents paid for the current
building and paid to maintain it so that revenue (the sale of the property)
will go to the library. Assuming the County buys it or a private entity buys
it, that money comes back to the library. What will be done with those
proceeds is yet to be determined.
Chair/Grundy asked if the outside seating area had a retractable shade
awning and ACM/Doyle recalled that there was some shading available
either from the building or an awning.
C/Herndon said he was impressed with the progress so far. He asked if
there were plans for the City Hall and asked if the Commission could
receive that presentation. ACM/Doyle said that the design phase was
complete and construction drawings will be completed following the
Tuesday night City Council meeting. The library's budget for architectural
design was $333,000 and his architectural budget for design of City Hall
was $168,000. C/Herndon said he would like to see the plans for City
Hall. Chair/Grundy said the Commission would appreciate seeing the
plans for the City Hall space.
CALENDAR OF EVENTS: As presented in the agenda and read by CSD/Rose.
1. CONSENT CALENDAR:
1.1 Approval of Minutes for the Regular Meeting of January 27, 2011 as
submitted.
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Motion by C/Herndon seconded by C/Roberto, to approve the January 27,
2011 minutes - as submitted. Without objection, the motion was so
ordered with C/Liang absent.
2. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
2.2 Recreation Program Update — RS/Murphy
2.2.1 PowerPoint Presentation on Concert Share — CSC/Tarazon
Commissioners stated that they appreciated the presentation.
C/Herndon asked if there were other money -making events the City
could provide. CSC/Tarazon responded that in order to bring in
revenue for the City, staff takes advantage of any and all
opportunities including utilizing the Diamond Bar Center whenever
possible. CSD/Rose added that staff is looking at hosting a bridal
fair, which can be a very successful event. CSC/Tarazon is being
extremely modest because to have this event (Concert Share) year
after year in D.B. is because of the organization and quality of the
event and all of the detailed work that CSC/Tarazon and others put
into the event. CSD/Rose and Chair/Grundy thanked CSC/Tarazon
for doing such a great job.
In regards to the Concert Share, VC/Owens asked if there was any
discussion about getting permission from ASCAP and BMI.
CSC/Tarazon said this is one of the main topics of discussion
because cities pay royalties for the use of the songs performed by
bands represented by these groups.
2.3 Parks Report — PMS/Jordan
C/Herndon asked if, with respect to Heritage Park roof problems, there
would be a way to install a motion light or alarm to startle vandals.
PMS/Jordan responded that staff is looking into a product that is used to
repel pigeons, a very greasy, sticky product that would be poured on the
parapet caps to deter vandalism. Chair/Grundy wondered if such a
product would cause vandals to fall off of the stand pipe. PMS/Jordan
said he did not know because he was in the midst of researching the best
solution. C/Herndon said he was in favor of anything that would not affect
the City's liability.
C/Herndon asked if there was a way to install drains at Ronald Reagan
Park to get rid of the accumulated playground water. PMS/Jordan said
there is an existing drain sump; however, when it gets full, it flows down
the slope. CSD/Rose said the sump was replaced in 1998 and as time
goes on, the sump gets layers of dirt that make it less efficient. The only
way to fix it is to remove the sump and redo it which would require a
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complete renovation of the tot lot. C/Herndon asked if there were reasons
to have certain items remain on the punch list and PMS/Jordan
responded, for some, yes. D.B. has had trouble receiving bids for some of
the work. Because of the age of the poured -in-place rubber, many
vendors are afraid to execute repairs because they feel that they would
buy liability if a child were hurt even if the accident occurred on an
unrepaired portion. One company was willing to sell the City the product
and teach staff how to apply it and that possibility is under consideration.
Some of the other items will be completed as work projects by Scouts and
Leos, for example. In addition, there are items that staff has not been
able to complete as of this report.
2.3.1 Park Walkthroughs
VC/Owens said he would coordinate with SAA/Hilario.
C/Herndon said he was willing to walk through any of the parks and
is usually available on Monday and Friday mornings.
Chair/Grundy said he would like to do Ronald Reagan and
Starshine Parks and would follow up with dates.
C/Roberto said he would get back to staff.
2.3.2 Power Point Presentation on Dog Parks — CSD/Rose presented
staff's Council Study Session report of February 21.
CSD/Rose concluded his presentation by reporting that the City
Council directed staff to study the feasibility of constructing the dog
park at one of the Pantera Park sites with priority given to the
undeveloped portion of the park. Currently, staff is engaged in
obtaining pricing for fencing, cleanup, etc. and will provide an
update to City Council in the near future.
Chair/Grundy said he thought there was some interest in a dog
park but that the interest was rather insignificant and asked what
was driving this element of the Parks Plan in deference to the rest
of the elements. CSD/Rose said this matter has gained momentum
throughout the community. There were about 15-20 residents who
attended the study session to indicate their support for a dog park
which prompted the Council to direct staff to study the matter.
Whether it will move forward or be constructed is yet to be
determined.
C/Herndon asked how the subject was broached and CSD/Rose
responded that it was requested by a Council Member.
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Chair/Grundy said he was concerned about how this matter has
progressed versus a sports park, an aquatic facility, etc. If it looks
like all it takes to get something built is to mobilize a group of
people it might set precedence or send a message that this could
work for something that another group might want. He questioned
whether this would be the right process that should be used to fund
this particular element rather than all of the other things that were
identified in the Parks Master Plan.
CSD/Rose said this was not so unusual for a special facility which
is very similar to the way in which the skate park listed in the
original 1998 Parks Master Plan came to exist. A small specialty
project is much more likely to be considered if Council believes it
can meet a community need without a substantial expenditure that
also involves a lot of ongoing expense. A dog park is very similar
to that type of facility.
Chair/Grundy asked if there were grants for dog parks. CSD/Rose
said it might be possible to get a sponsorship of a dog park. There
are grants that pay to improve a dog park but he is not aware of
any grants to build a park.
VC/Owens said he did not see any doggie pickup bag and waste
dump facilities in the presentation. CSD/Rose said that in many
cities, non-profit organizations are developed such as "Friends of
the Dog Park" that would keep the park clean and in good
condition.
C/Herndon asked the size of the undeveloped Pantera Park site
and CSD/Rose responded about 1.3 acres. C/Herndon
commented that there were no dogs pictured in the Dog Fun
Zones. He asked if there was any mention of this space being
used for something else in the Parks Master Plan. CSD/Rose said
there is a trail in the area and the City would have to keep the trail
area available. There was an outdoor meadow proposed for the
area as well. C/Herndon asked if there was a budget for this item
and CSD/Rose reiterated that determining a budget is part of the
current feasibility study. C/Herndon asked if staff was aware of
what the on-going maintenance costs would be. CSD/Rose
reiterated that it would depend on whether turf was involved or
some other type of ground covering was used. It would also
depend on how well folks clean up after their dogs and whether
staff would have to maintain the park.
VC/Owens asked who would enforce posted rules. CSD/Rose said
it would depend on whether the Sheriff's Department would begin
getting a significant number of calls. Self -enforcement and peer
pressure is essential and that is why many non-profit organizations
work with the City to enforce the rules. VC/Owens asked if
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neighbors had been surveyed to determine whether they had
issues with this type of facility. CSD/Rose responded, no, and if
there was an issue with neighbors it would most likely apply to the
other side of Pantera Park. The proposed site is set down from the
park and there are no adjacent neighbors so the site should be out
of sight and sound of residences.
C/Herndon said he would be open to the Commission presenting a
resolution or petition to back off of this item.
C/Roberto said the discussion during the Council Study Session
was about many items in the Master Plan that the City could not
fund but that this would be an item that could be funded.
Chair/Grundy said he felt fine about a dog park but was concerned
about how the City determines approving a dog park versus other
things that were being considered. He was concerned that the City
Council may not consider other projects listed in the Parks Master
Plan before deciding to move forward.
CSD/Rose said that it was likely this matter would go to the
Commission for consideration and recommendation to the City
Council for a final decision. Chair/Grundy strongly supported that
notion because the Commission was an appropriate body to weigh
all sides of the matter before rendering a consideration. In fact, any
part of the Parks Master Plan should come to the Commission for
further consideration in its role as an advisory body to the Council.
VC/Owens agreed.
2.4 Steep Canyon Connector Trail Re -Route — CSD/Rose
CSD/Rose reported that once the California Conservation Corp is ready to
commence construction of the 500 foot re-route to solve the issue of the
eroded area and move the trail away from the steep portion, it will likely be
a couple of weeks to get the trail open again.
C/Herndon asked if there would be any fencing to prevent climbers from
leaving the trail to take a direct route up and down the hill. PMS/Anthony
explained that there are a lot of shrubs and rock outcroppings the trail
moves around; therefore, in some of the areas, due to the terrain, it might
not be so enticing to take a shortcut or more direct route. At the request
of the Commission during its last meeting, staff moved forward to solve
the issue and this is, therefore, an information item only. Chair/Grundy felt
this proposal was a very practical way to solve this issue.
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2.5 Parks Master Plan Update — CSD/Rose
CSD/Rose said that staff will request an assignment of contract from
Matlock Associates to Jeff Scott and Ron Hagen of TKE Engineering who
were the individuals that did the majority of the work on the Parks Master
Plan. They will now take on the work to finish the Parks Master Plan and
staff is already receiving updates from Jeff and Ron to move forward.
Staff is requesting a $10,000 appropriation for a certain number of copies
and for an update of the Trails Plan.
Chair/Grundy requested that if the document is changed, he would
appreciate seeing what the changes are.
C/Herndon said he was still available to serve on the subcommittee and
review the changes.
VC/Owens said he would prefer a presentation to the entire Commission.
C/Roberto said he would appreciate a CD of the document.
Chair/Grundy asked that all Commissioners receive a CD.
CSD/Rose said he would provide a CD of the document and e-mail the
changes. He also offered to ask the consultant to give a presentation to
the Commission in a session prior to the regular March 24 meeting to take
place from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m., if the consultant is available.
2.6 City of Claremont Grant to Acquire Park Property — CSD/Rose
In response to C/Herndon's inquiry, CSD/Rose explained that the City of
Claremont used a couple of funding sources to acquire the 160 -acre
property referred to as the Jose Cuervas property in the foothills adjacent
to Claremont. One source was a grant from the Rivers and Mountains
Conservancy for $2.43 million and another source was from a Trust for
Public Lands, a non-profit organization that helps with the acquisition of
properties. In order to apply for the grant, the grantee must provide
evidence that it is dealing with a willing seller and that the price has been
set. The Trust for Public Lands negotiated the price at $4.85 million so
that the Rivers and Mountains Conservancy could consider the grant.
D.B. has received grants on several occasions from the Rivers and
Mountains Conservancy and has requested grant funds to acquire a
particular piece of property on Clear Creek Canyon across from Cleghorn
Drive. It would be of value to the trail route that goes from Sycamore
Canyon Park trailhead to Steep Canyon to locate a trailhead or greenbelt.
There are all sorts of issues with the land because the landowner is
interested in developing the land which is not really suitable for
development. The City has to be careful not to create a conflict of interest
when trying to acquire land that the owner wants to develop. Claremont
has a wilderness park immediately adjacent to the land they acquired and
the City passed a bond measure in the $10-11 million range so that the
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residents ultimately pay for the property through annual property taxes.
C/Herndon inquired about the possibility of getting a grant to purchase
Site D. CSD/Rose responded that the owner has an approved plan for
use of the land and he doubted that the City would consider making an
offer to buy the land at this point.
2.7 CIP Projects — CSD/Rose
a) Washington Street Mini Park - This project is still in plan check.
VC/Owens asked what the problem was with this project and
CSD/Rose responded that the consultant just received the Water
District's approval for the water system.
b) Sycamore Canyon Park Trail — Phase IV — Staff is putting plans and
specs together to take this project out to bid.
c) Silver Tip Mini Park — Staff is in the final phase of putting the
construction documents together. Once staff has feedback on the
electrical components, the documents will move into plan check.
C/Herndon said it seemed to him there were some individuals at the
community meeting who said they often use that park to walk their
dogs and he asked if there were any studies that indicated how parks
are being used for park exercise. CSD/Rose explained that all parks
are used to walk dogs and exercise dogs and, as a result, doggie pick-
up bags are provided in all parks. C/Herndon wanted to know if there
was any Council discussion about how the parks are used during the
dog park discussion. CSD/Rose responded that one Council Member
talked about how she had seen lots of people walking dogs in parks
throughout D.B.
3. OLD BUSINESS: None
4. NEW BUSINESS: None
5. ANNOUNCEMENTS: C/Roberto thanked staff for their reports. He attended
the City Council Study Session dog park discussion. Last night he attended the
D134 -Youth meeting and was very pleasantly surprised about the number of kids,
as young as 12, who turn out for this event and the amount of planning for
activities throughout the summer. The meetings are very inclusive and all
decisions are reached as a result of team effort. He is very impressed with the
group.
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C/Herndon thanked staff for an excellent job. He is always impressed with the
City's Teen Volunteers and to have 312 volunteers at the Snowfest is absolutely
phenomenal. His hat is off to staff for being able to incentivize that amount of
participation.
VC/Owens thanked staff for the PowerPoint presentations.
Chair/Grundy asked Commissioners to remember that the Commission
reorganizes next month.
ADJOURNMENT: VC/Owens moved, C/Herndon seconded, to adjourn the
meeting. With no further business before the Parks & Recreation Commission,
Chair/Grundy adjourned the meeting at 9:10 p.m.
The foregoing minutes are hereby approved this day of
Respectfully Submitted,
BOB ROSE, SECRETARY
Attest:
DAVE GRUNDY, CHAIRMAN
.2011.