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CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MINUTES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
DECEMBER 13, 1990
CALL TO ORDER: C/Stitt called the meeting to order at 6:40 p.m. at City
Hall, 21660 East Copley Drive, Suite 100, Diamond Bar,
California.
PLEDGE OF
The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by
ALLEGIANCE:
Commissioner Ruzicka.
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners Meyer, Ruzicka and Stitt. Commissioner
Whelan arrived at 6:50 p.m.
Also present were Parks and Maintenance Director Charles
Janiel, Administrative Analyst Kellee F'ritzal, Lydia
Plunk, and Secretary (contract) Liz Myers.
MATTERS FROM THE
Mr. Don Nardella, 23444 Coyote Springs, Diamond Bar,
AUDIENCE:
thanked everyone for the participation in the Commission
within the past year.
C/Ruzicka expressed his respect and emphasized his
continual support for Mr. Nardella.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
C/Meyer requested the Minutes of December 1, 1990 be
pulled from the Consent Calendar. He stated his inabili-
ty to vote on the minutes due to his absence from the
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meeting.
Motion was made by C/Stitt, seconded by C/Ruzicka, and
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CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to approve the Consent Calendar.
Motion was made by C/Ruzicka, seconded by C/Stitt and
CARRIED to approve the Minutes of December 1, 1990.
Ayes: C/Stitt, C/Whelan, and C/Ruzicka
Nays: None
Abstain: C/Meyer
ORAL REPORT:
User Group Staff reported the User Group Meeting with the repre-
Meeting sentatives from City youth organizations went well.
Staff explained there was trouble getting the groups to
send- in their requests for field usage. They were
informed field scheduling will be on a first come first
serve basis. According to the Walnut Valley Recreation
(WVR), there are now, quite a few applications being
submitted. Staff is trying to obtain statements of
organizational structure from the user groups, as well.
The only group that has responded is James Roberts of the
street hockey players.
I-""" C/Ruzicka stated there are a lot of participants in the
user groups. He noted December 31, 1990 was the deadline
for the user groups to deliver the requested information
to the City.
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RAB Oral Report C/Whelan reported the Recreational Advisory Board Meeting
had been uneventful and there is no updated informatior
concerning the JPA.
Staff reported the City of Walnut has decided not to sign
the amendment of the JPA requesting money be -returned to
the City of Diamond Bar from the discontinuance of the
Park Drop -In Program. Staff explained the money
available for use through the JPA agreement is approxi-
mately $23,000, excluding costs. Since the actual money
will not be returned to the City, staff recommended
assigning the funds for use in a special event.
C/Whelan inquired if staff can obtain equipment now for
the Second Anniversary, using the funds in the JPA.
Kellee Fritzal responded it can be done but suggested
using the funds toward services as opposed to equipment.
Staff is not confident any equipment purchased would be
returned to the City.
C/Whelan stated the City should take advantage of any
funds still available and begin the preplanning stages of
the Second Anniversary.
C/Meyer inquired if staff felt confident the money can be
used in such a manner, even though there is a discrepancy .•...
in the actual monies available through the JPA from
discontinuing the Park Drop -In Program.
Staff feels the City can obtain enough labor and services
equating the dollars at hand.
Staff reminded Commission that a new representative to
the Recreation Advisory Board (RAB) must be appointed.
The meeting is on the first Thursday of the month at 7: 3 0
p.m. The next meeting will be January 4, 1991.1
C/Stitt expressed his desire to be the representative on
the RAB.
Motion was made by C/Ruzicka, seconded by C/Meyer and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to nominate C/Stitt to the post of
the second representative from the Park and Recreation
Commission to the RAB.
Changing the C/Whelan requested the Commission meeting time be changed
Meeting Date from 6:30 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. to allow more flexibility in
& Time. his schedule. He stated Thursday would still remain a
good date unless the Commission decides otherwise.
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C/Meyer and C/Ruzicka stated the time and date was
acceptable.
Charles Janiel, Director, reminded the Commission the
meetings at the library would have to adjourn by 8:55
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p.m., the closing time of the library.
C/Whelan inquired if the Commission would elect to cut
back to one (1) meeting a month. If there is to be two
(2) meetings a month, he inquired whether one (1) of them
I should become a study session.
C/Whelan requested staff check on the availability of
using a portable at Quail Summit to hold the meetings.
Motion was made by C/Whelan, seconded by C/Ruzicka and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to amend the Ordinance to change the
Parks and Recreation Commission Meetings to 7:00 p.m., to
be held the second and fourth Thursday of the month. The
fourth Thursday is to be the actual Commission meeting
and the second Thursday to be a study session as needed.
OLD BUSINESS:
F--,.,C.I.P. Staff reported the attached list of Capital Improvement
Projects have been identified by the Council, Commission,
and staff. It is the Councils' wish that the Commissions
prioritize the items perspectively. It is suggested each
Commissioner prioritize pertinent items and return the
worksheet to staff. Staff will compile the results and
bring the list back to the Commission for finalization.
C/Ruzicka asked staff if the Council wanted all items
prioritized or just the items pertaining to the Parks and
Recreation Commission.
Charles Janiel reported the CIP items are to be
prioritized by the Park and Recreation concerns only, to
include landscaping and irrigation, and any items cross
connecting. This is just the formation of the CIP and
the idea is to develop a foundation to begin the
programs. The Commissioners should prioritize items
believed to be of utmost importance so the Council can
have a reference point. New items may be added as well.
Lydia Plunk asked if it was possible to find a time to
discuss some of the items appearing to be nebulous on the
subject matter.
C/Whelan requested reviewing the list as a group and
identifying the appropriate items.
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The Commission identified items #10, 23, 24, 25, 28-33} 'j
35, 38, 39a&b, 40, 41a&b, 42a&b, 43a&b, and 44; through
49. L,,..,.
Charles Janiel reminded Commission that the projects will
be in competition for funds. Therefore, he suggested
prioritizing items in a way to make the funds available,
first, for the needs of the Park and Recreation
Commission.
Lydia Plunk inquired if lights are unattainable at one
park field, can there be an addendum to install fights on
another field.
C/Whelan stated the CIP must be specific iso the
Commission should add the alternative park to the list.
C/Meyer suggested the Commission, in terms of
prioritizing, refer to the potential number and type of
users of a park.
Charles Janiel noted the funds requested have been for
bigger parks having the potential to serve the most
people. He asserted the present user isn't as important
as the potential user. 7-7
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Recreation RFP Kellee Fritzal illustrated the four possible options ford',
a Recreational Program and their net costs to the City.
RFP NET COSTS
Brea $235,674
YMCA $180,052
County $337,706
In -House $148,920
Kellee Fritzal reported staff, C/Whelan and C/Ruzicka met
with the three (3) proposers at a meeting on Tuesday,
December 11, 1990. The In -House proposal was also
discussed on that date. Kellee Fritzal recommended the
Commissioners not base their decision on net costs only,
but also consider the services that can be provided.
Items in the proposal can be negotiated.
C/Ruzicka reported the bid from Brea was presented
imaginatively. He suggested requesting from Brea a bid
on programs they would find best for Diamond Bar. The
YMCA does not have any experience in providing municipal
type recreation programs and also did not include all the
services requested. The County is expensive but
experienced. There are opposing opinions to the qualityFl
of the services provided in the past. He stated his
apprehension on an In -House program due to ,lack of
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expertise. He suggested taking a contract from one of
the bidders for a couple of years, and then consider an
In -House program.
C/Whelan reported the YMCA answers to a Board Directors
creating complexities to program requests. Brea is
experienced and has a tremendous Recreation Program. He
believed the costs are negotiable. Brea stated their
willingness to develop a program to fit our needs and it
will be advertized as a Diamond Bar program. The County
is very knowledgeable about our parks but their costs are
high. He stated he was not impressed by their
presentation. He stated the In -House is a good idea but
it is at the infancy stage.
C/Meyer inquired who is responsible for insurance.
Kellee Fritzal explained the proposer must provide
insurance.
Kellee Fritzal related the YMCA was very definite the
programs must meet their mission statement. Though the
programs would be flexible on community needs, Diamond
Bar official would have to confer with their Board of
Directors. They did offer to waive their membership fee.
C/Meyer cautioned against entering into an agreement that
could cause similar problems comparable with Walnut.
Kellee Fritzal asserted the contract with any of the
bidders will have built in mechanisms to protect against
losses.
C/Meyer suggested going back to Brea and requesting a
couple of option type programs.
Lydia Plunk stated she would not like to eliminate the
YMCA altogether.
C/Ruzicka noted the administrative structure of the YMCA
creates a difficult circumstance in developing programs.
Lydia Plunk advised requesting all of the bidders either
reduce their costs and/or provide additional programs
acceptable to the City of Diamond Bar. Those groups that
are unwilling or unable to do so, should be dropped.
C/Ruzicka stated Diamond Bar needs the kind of expertise
which provides the desired municipal program. He
remarked the YMCA's inability to do so.
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Kellee Fritzal informed the Commission of staff's intent;
to go for a three (3) year contract with yearly renewals.!......:!
C/Whelan maintained the original intent was to go for a
two (2) year contract. The first year would be the
growing pains, and the second year would be to judge
their actual abilities.
Staff acknowledged the difference in the time aspect of
the contract and stated a two (2) year contract can be
developed.
C/Whelan asserted he would prefer Brea come back with a
revised program, then renegotiate to lower costs not
exceeding $210,000.
C/Meyer claimed all bidders should receive an opportunity
to lower costs and present a revised program. The
Commission should give a full review.
Lydia Plunk stated it would be easier for City Council to
make a final decision based on fair negotiations with two
(2) programs.
Motion was made by C/Whelan, seconded by C/Meyer and."I
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to direct staff to contact all the[
entities involved in the RFP process and request a'!
resubmittal on a recreation program at two (2) cost
levels: oae being at the existing level originally
submitted,and the other at a lower cost level, with an
idea of providing a program beneficial to the City of
Diamond Bar. Staff will negotiate an agreement with the
bidders and return the results to the Commission by
January 10, 1991.
JPA Termination City Manager Robert Van Nort stated in a memorandum dated
WVUSD December 30, 1990, that the letter dated November 30,
1990 from the City of Walnut reflects they are not
interested in either an independent audit or an amend-
ment to the present Recreational JPA Agreement with
Diamond Bar, Walnut, and the Walnut Valley Unified School
District. It is not recommended, in the light of the
numerous issues faced by the City and School District,
the matter be further explored.
C/Whelan explained the reason for requesting an audit was
in hopes to outline items bought and paid for.
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C/Meyer stated an audit could take years especially when
poor bookkeeping is involved. He suggested requesting
invoices and not paying unless an invoice is received.
NEW BUSINESS:
Selection of Staff reported the recent events have left the Parks and
Chairperson and Recreation Commission without a Chairperson or vice
vice Chairperson Chairperson. It is suggested the Commission operate with
an interim Chairperson, and officially select the
Chairperson and vice Chairperson when all vacant
positions have been filled.
INFORMATION:
Park Activity
Report
COMMISSIONER
COMMENTS:
Charles Janiel reminded the Commission the ordinance
mandates a new Chairperson be selected in July of each
year. He suggested the Commission keep this in mind
during the selection process.
Charles Janiel explained Superintendent Don Hensley will
be submitting each month the significant maintenance
tasks performed throughout the parks.
C/Ruzicka expressed his approval of having such a report
done monthly.
C/Ruzicka read a letter from Don Schad expressing his
hope to receive from staff a recommendation on a tree
planting program, to include native plants to replant
barren and burnt out areas. He could get trees at no
cost to the City. He stated Earth Day in April is
actually a poor time to plant trees and recommended late
winter, early spring.
Charles Janiel acknowledged the request but noted
restrictions: many areas are public property; there are
many irrigated areas; the City is cutting back on water
supplies; and the trees should be drought tolerant, not
native. He stated his intent to communicate with Mr.
Schad. Mr. Janiel will meet with Don Schad to discuss a
program.
C/Meyer communicated his enthusiasm in participating in
the decision making process and stated his appreciation
for any assistance in making a contribution to the
Commission.
C/Whelan expressed his thanks to Don Nardella for all his
input in the Commission. He stated Don Nardella did a
tremendous job getting things off the ground. He
commented further that all Don Nardella's support on the
JPA made a definite impact.
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C/Whelan stated he was approached by Boy Scouts that want
to do an Eagle project that entails developing trails;..)
through the Sycamore Canyon Park. He inquired of staff
as to which action need to be taken.
Charles Janiel replied the City Attorney needs to be
notified first. He suggested the Boy Scouts conact him
and give all the information needed and he wilt confer
with the City Attorney and discuss requirements.
Charles Janiel informed the Commission their Christmas
decoration idea was postponed due to legalities con-
cerning liability.
C/Stitt welcomed C/Meyer and stated his eager anticipa-
tion of working together. He noted the comments made by
C/Whelan in regards to Councilman Don Nardella echoed the
opinions of the whole Commission. He announced to the
Commission he has attained a permanent position in the
Commission. He thanked former Councilman, and now
Assemblyman Paul Horcher for his original appointment as
well as Councilman Don Nardella for the reappointment in
the Commission.
C/Stitt retold a concern expressed to him by a citizen in,,
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regards to the potential danger of a ladder in one of the
play apparatuses in Peterson Park. He- was curious as to
the point of the ladder to the rest. of the toy, and
requested the Commission reevaluate the situation.
Charles Janiel explained the functions of the equipment
installed is to develop motor and muscle coordination.
There are three (3) pieces of equipment at Peterson Park,
each intended for different developmental skills. The
safety of the equipment and the surrounding area meet the
national standards. He stated the equipment will be
looked at once again.
ADJOURNMENT: Motion was made by C/Meyer, seconded by C/Ruzicka and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to adjourn the meeting at 9:05 p.m.
to the next regular meeting on December 27,199 t 9:00
a.m.
Charley Janiel
Secretary
ATTEST:
Chairman