HomeMy WebLinkAbout3/25/1991C/MacBride requested the Minutes of March 11, 1991
be amended on page 3, paragraph 2, to read as
"budget constraints" as opposed to "skills", and
page 11, fifth paragraph to add "with the purpose
of looking at and embracing a generic tree
ordinance" to the end of the sentence.
Chair/Schey suggested that the approval of the
minutes be placed as a separate agenda item before
the Consent Calendar.
Motion was made by VC/Harmony, seconded by
C/MacBride and CARRIED to continue the matter for
the purpose of clarifying the Minutes of March 11,
1991, and setting the tone for future minutes.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Grothe, MacBride,
Harmony, and Chair/Schey.
NAYES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: Lino
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CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
MARCH 25, 1991
1I CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Schey called the meeting to order at 6:35
p.m. in the walnut Valley School District Board
Meeting Room, 880 South Lemon Street, Diamond Bar,
California.
PLEDGE OF
The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by
ALLEGIANCE:
Vice Chairman Harmony.
ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Grothe, Commissioner MacBride, Vice
Chairman harmony, and Chairman Schey. Commissioner
Lin arrived late at 6:50 p.m.
Also present were City Planner Irwin Kaplan, Assoc.
Planner Robert Searcy, Deputy Attorney Bill Curley,
City Engineer Sid Mousavi, Planning Technician Ann
Lungu, and Contract Secretary Liz Myers.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Planning Director James DeStefano requested item #2
be pulled from the Consent Calendar.
VC/Harmony requested the Minutes of March 11, 1991
be pulled from the Consent Calendar.
VC/Harmony indicated that the Minutes of March 11,
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1991 were condensed to a point of not being wholly
comprehensible. He requested the minutes be held
over until the next meeting to allow further
discussion with staff on the merits of this
particular set of minutes.
C/MacBride requested the Minutes of March 11, 1991
be amended on page 3, paragraph 2, to read as
"budget constraints" as opposed to "skills", and
page 11, fifth paragraph to add "with the purpose
of looking at and embracing a generic tree
ordinance" to the end of the sentence.
Chair/Schey suggested that the approval of the
minutes be placed as a separate agenda item before
the Consent Calendar.
Motion was made by VC/Harmony, seconded by
C/MacBride and CARRIED to continue the matter for
the purpose of clarifying the Minutes of March 11,
1991, and setting the tone for future minutes.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Grothe, MacBride,
Harmony, and Chair/Schey.
NAYES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: Lino
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Resolution of
James DeStefano suggested that the Commission with -
Denial for the
hold action, at this time, in consideration of
the
extension of
Resolution for Denial regarding a request for
an
Evangelical Free
extension of time for the Evangelical Free Church.
Church
Chair/Schey was concerned that the wording of
the
Resolution of Denial implies an active action
of
denial. It could be taken as too positive -of
an
action, in terms of denial of the project, and
may
create an, impression that is not accurate.
The
project was neither approved nor denied,
and
expired on it's own accord.
Deputy Attorney Bill Curley explained that there
was an affirmative request to allow an extension of
the existing resolution on the existing terms and
conditions. The request was not granted regardless
how it is characterized. It appears to be a
standard form of denial.
VC/Harmony ascertained that substantiating or
confirming an action taken previously at a public
meeting is a reconsideration of that action and
does not follow parliamentary procedure.
C/MacBride noted that the resolution does not
indicate the reasoning behind allowing the
expiration, only the final result of the decision.
He would like wording to indicate the why I s and
wherefores of the Commission's actions.
Chair/Schey directed staff to work through the
issues stated, come back with an appropriate
document for the Commission's reconsideration, and
include consideration for the concerns stated by
VC/Harmony. This is to be brought back to the
Commission at the next meeting.
OLD BUSINESS: City Planner Irwin Kaplan indicated that, at the
March 11, 1991 meeting, the Planning Commission
Review of the considered the establishment of a separate design
Development Code review board to advise the City on the design
Chapters 1.1 & aspects of a variety of projects.
1.11 According to the Commission, the design review
3 process should2
3 1. Not create another level of "bureaucratic
intervention".
2. Not create further delays to the approval
process.
3. Be handled by staff as part of the normal
review process.
4. Call upon a citizen's board of design
professionals to review projects, "as needed",
when design guidance is required beyond that
which staff can provide.
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VC/Harmony specified that he is not opposed to
delaying any project until it is fully evaluated.
He suggested that the architectural review
committee should be appointed now. It should only
be called in if additional information is needed.
The following are his suggestions to some of the
responsibilities of the standing committee:
1. To develop the guidelines, and recommend to
the Commission their level of involvement.
2. To deal with issues of art public places, and
it®s initiation processes.
3. To be composed of a mixture of professionals
and nonprofessionals, to include perhaps an
architect, a landscape architect, and an
artist. Each committee member would have an
alternative.
4. To have a review authority and a reporting
responsibility to the Commission. They would
be purely advisory to the Commission, work
side by side with staff, and meet on a regular
bases to keep up with the level of activities.
C/Grothe indicated that the design review committee
need not be on-going. He suggested :that
professionals are preferred so that the Commission
may receive the technical aspects to a project.
The board should be advisory to the Commission-
Chair/Schey questioned if there is enough activity
to warrant a standing committee.
PD/DeStefano confirmed that, based on the present
volume of projects, the committee will be on-going.
They will probably meet once or twice a month in
order to maintain the timelines mandated by a
variety of California codes.
C/Grothe questioned if the intent of the Commission
is to develop another level of bureaucracy, or
develop a set of guidelines and standards for
architectural design. He suggested the Commission
request to the City Council to consider the hiring
of an additional staff member for the purpose of
assisting the planning staff to set up and follow
appropriate guidelines.
C/Grothe inquired if all cities have a design
review committee.
CP/Kaplan explained that more and more communities
are having a design review. The question the
Commission needs to ascertain is what problem is
trying to be resolved.
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Chair/Schey stated that the Commission has not had
adequate time to look at architectural review in
great detail. He would feel more comfortable with
a committee based in the community that will take
the time to look at these projects.
VC/Harmony stated that there is a general consensus
that there is a need for a subcommittee to review
architectural standards. He stressed the
importance of having a community involved committee
of professionals that can give technical expertise
to the Commission, on an "as needed" bases. The
Commission has avoided architectural review and
must start at some point.
C/Grothe concluded that the Commission has done a
fine job on architectural review up to date. He
does not agree there is a problem. He would like
to see the design review looked at more
specifically and sees no reason to add further
bureaucracy. There needs to be an establishment of
proper guidelines to aide the Commission in the
process of their review, to include better input
from staff. He reiterated a need for one more
staff member toassist the planning staff.
C/MacBride requested staff to define if there is a
design review problem, to include information on
the quantity of cases reviewed, and how extensive
the review is being done presently at a staff
level. He does not have a desire to interlace the
Commission's activities with another bureaucratic
level.
Chair/Schey directed staff to present to the
Commission, at the next meeting, a synopsis of the
degree of review presently being done by staff.
PUBLIC HEARING: Planning Technician Ann Lungu gave a report
concerning the request for approval to open a dry
CUP 91-2 cleaning establishment, located at 1155 Diamond Bar
A request to Boulevard in the Standard Brands Shopping Center.
establish a The applicant will maintain a dry cleaning and
dry cleaners. laundry plant on the premises. Staff recommended
that the Planning Commission approve the Mitigated
Negative Declaration and CUP 91-002 with the
Findings of Fact and conditions listed.
The Public Hearing was declared open.
Don Chapman, residing at 1801 E. La Vida, City of
Orange, applicant, offered to answer any questions.
.C/MacBride inquired what term is used to designate
"Pere".
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Mr. Chapman responded that the chemical is called
tetrachloroethylene, but that "perc" is the
accepted trade name.
The Public Hearing was declared closed.
chair/Schey indicated he has no problem with the
project as long as it meets the 11AQMD11 standards.
Notion was made by VC/Harmony, seconded by
C/MacBride and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to approve
staff's recommendation and resolution as outlined
in the agenda with the modification of item 113d" of
the resolution to read '"...shall be obtained and
maintained from...".
Development PD/DeStefano gave a report reviewing the issues
Agreement 91-2 discussed by the Planning Commission on the
continued from February 25, 1991 public hearing. The following
Feb. 25, 1991 are the issues addressed concerning the proposed
project:
1. Traffic and Safety.
2. Architectural Style.
3. Convenience Store or Snack Shop.
4. Development Agreement.
Staff recommended that the Planning CommisEdon
approve the Mitigated Negative Declaration and
Development Agreement 91-2 with the stated concerns
mitigated and with the conditions listed.
Chair/Schey inquired if the City Engineer is
comfortable with the analysis and the mitigation
measures recommended in the revised traffic study.
City Engineer Sid Mousavi responded that the
traffic study was satisfactory. However, staff's
additional requirements of an extended auxiliary
lane, and the mitigation measures on Golden Springs
and Colima, were not addressed as part of the
traffic study.
VC/Harmony inquired on the safety of crossing lanes
of traffic on to Golden Springs, coming out of the
development, and heading east.
CE/Mousavi explained that a site distance of 600
feet is required for a speed of 50 mph. That
distance is available for a left turn. However, if
there are slow moving vehicles, such as a truck,
and the speed of the traveling vehicle is greater
than 50 mph, there may be site distance problems.
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The
Public Hearing was declared open.
Gary
Clapp, residing at 21055 Glenbrook Drive,
Diamond Bar, addressed several issues:
1.
Internal Traffic - he referred to the letter
from UNOCAL, solicited from their traffic
engineer, which approved the site and the
turning movement the truck will make on the
site, as wel]- as the restrictive delivery
hours.
2.
Visibility - he emphasized that their traffic
engineer determined that there is sufficient
visibility.' The traffic is made safer with
the inclusion of the right turn pocket.
3.
Acceleration Lane - he deferred discussion to
the traffic engineer.
Paul Wilkensen, a principal of Lyn, Scott, Long
Greenspan, traffic engineer, accompanied by Jay
Nelson, addressed the issue of the acceleration
lane. The concern for the lane is that it
encourages a movement to enter the traffic stream
without there being an adequate gap. This causes
them to be placed in a weaving situation because of
the various traffic maneuvers needed, and creates a
rear end accident potential. it is safer for the
motorist to wait for a gap long enough to pull out.
Gary Clapp continued to address some issues:
4. The additional 11 foot street dedication
ac•�c'.T.-:-Y!odatinq another eleven feet would
requLre at least a 12 foot high retaining wall
to hold the soil, which would be against city
ordinance. The other alternative would be to
build out on a 2:1 grade slope. However, this
action, coupled with the request to add
another 15 , foot setback, would result in
eliminating the building because a total of 39
feet would have to be -moved out. This stops
the project then and there.
5. Pullout Traffic - the traffic on Golden
Springs will not be as busy during peak
business hours. However, there can be a
restriction of a left turn out of the site but
allow a U turn at the Gateway Drive.
6. Street improvement - there will be 605 of
total landscaping of the property. Since
there will be little pedestrian movement in
the area, he questioned the demand for
sidewalks.
7. Concerns of the AQMD - the building will not
block, much of the view of the AQMD. He
illustrated such by photos, presented to the
Commission, taken on the third floor of the
AQMD building.
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8. Clock Tower - the clock tower was an idea of
the applicant as a gift to the City, and will
include the Diamond Bar logo.
9. Concession Stand - purpose is to sell packaged
candy, chips, etc., as a convenience to the
customers.
C/Lin inquired how steep the driveway will be going
out of the project.
Mr. Clapp explained that the driveway will feather
out and will be level with the street when exiting
the property.
Chair/Schey recessed the meeting at 8:52 p.m. The
meeting was called to order at 9:07 p.m. He
requested speakers in favor of the project.
Dan Buffington, residing at 2605 Indian Creek,
commented that sidewalks should not be given up;
direction of the tanker should be changed to avoid
crossing lanes; the left turn should be allowed
until a traffic problem is indicated; keep the 11,
foot street dedication; there is, a need to the 15
foot setback for the building, and the,:, CC&Rls
require a sign into Diamond Bar -,on that property,
and it should be ensured that one will placed
there.
Frank
ank - Arciero Jr., of Arciero and Sons, stated that
the 11 foot easement is an additional request that
will cause lost of parking and building; there is
an interest in the development and will ensure it
is first class; and any new buyer must be approved
by them.
Pat Bell, 23460 Coyote Springs, stated his desire
for a car wash. Sidewalks are not important
because part of the aesthetics of Diamond Bar is
it's rural qualities.
Frank Schabarum, from West Covina, in behalf of the
property owner and the applicant, commented that
the applicant has been diligent and cooperative in
processing his development,- agreement. He noted
that approval of the car wash would allow for
restaurants. He distributed a letter to the
Commission from a restaurant owner who might be
interested in the site.
Chair/Schey requested speakers in opposition of the
project.
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Bob Burbon, residing at 1200 S. Diamond Bar
Boulevard, homeowner and realtor, is appalled by
the project., He noted the location of the project
and stated that it does not project a good image
for Diamond Bar. The project will create traffic
difficulties resulting in problems to attract
future users within Gateway. There is no need for
3 car washes in south Di-aipond Bar and suggested
placing one in the north s`!.de to attract customers
from the surrounding cities forgreaterrevenue.
John Brewster, residing at 4071 Second Street, was
concerned with the on site traffic movement; the
incompatible design of the building in comparison
to the area; and the 25 --foot above grade signage
allotment.' He quest --Lone,_',. the wisdom of allowing
one mile distances between car washes and stated
the area will not support two. He pointed out the
costs already expended by himself and Honda. His
car wash projects now in plan check and will be
in construction within 30 to 60 days. The location
for a car wash at Grand has a safe egress and
ingress.
Jack Wesso, of SCAQMD, was concerned with the
traffic circulation problem; the on site traffic;
the lack of trees in the parking area; and that the
theme of the building is not in conformance with
the neighborhood.
Ben Reiling,, of Zelman Development, representing
Gateway, stated that the left turn should not be
allowed coming out of the project at Golden
Springs. He questioned the determination for
$50,000 for traffic mitigation indicated in the
traffic report.
CE/Mousavi stated that a pedestrian sidewalk is
desirable and should be enforced keeping in mind
possible future developments in the area. The left
turn issue does not have to be a condition at this
time because it can be anytime in the
future. The $50,000 is based upon
construction cost of today,. He disagreed with the
opinion in opposition to the acceleration lane. It
would be ideal to have the lane go all the way to
the traffic signal, however, the minimum of 100
feet is deemed allowable to accommodate 50 mph
traffic.
C/Grothe stated that 11 feet for sidewalks seems
excessive.
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if CE/Mousavi explained that there is presently 12
feet of parkway area at Golden Springs. The
addition of 11 feet of new lane is needed in order
to maintain continuity of the parkway area.
Mr. Wilkensen asserted that the road is currently
34 feet in width. The width needed is already
there.
VC/Harmony inquired if there is 40% compact
parking. He further questioned if the requirement
was changed to 100% standard parking, would there
be adequate space.
PD/DeStefano replied that presently the parking
requirement exceeds the minimum allotted by a space
or two. There would not be adequate space for 100%
standard parking.
VC/Harmony noted the possibility for traffic backup
due to the inside traffic circulation pattern.
CE/Mousavi explained that if there was traffic
backup, it would back up into the auxiliary lane.
C/Grothe discussed the positive aspects -sof the
project. These aspects included the style of
architecture; the use of the convenient store; and
the landmark sign with the Diamond Bar logo. The
issues he found to be a problem are the traffic;
the rigid site design that have not included any
revisions requested; and the lack of a total site
plan. He would like the total site plan to
indicate if, with grading, it could be a viable
option to extend the roadway and align like a
private street, turning with that bottom
intersection signal. The left turn problem would
be solved with the use of the traffic light.
Currently, the traffic is so dense it would be
impossible to egress without a traffic signal. His
recommendation would be to deny the project or to
continue it with a redesign.
C/Lin agreed that the acceleration lane can cause
more problems and would prefer to see cars egress
one at a time. She inquired why the 11 foot
setback is significant.
PD/DeStef ano explained that the setback issue on
the building is intended to draw the buildings away
from the street with the purpose of creating the
same type of aesthetics seen throughout the
majority of Diamond Bar. A 15 foot set back seemed
appropriate for the size and scale of the buildings
being proposed. -
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VC/Harmony stated at present a car wash is not
permitted in the zone; the traffic patterns are a
confusion; the monument sign issue should be turned
over to the Council's Monument Entryway Sign
Committee; wants mature trees planted; concurred
with the traffic mitigations recommended by the
City Engineer; will not give up any right of way
and easements; will not yield on the setback
requirements; want standard parking stalls for all
developments; and sidewalks are essential. The
property must be developed for it's highest and
best use. He would consider reviewing the project
again, however, it must be redesigned to meet the
stated guidelines.
C/MacBride stated he would like to see a further
possibility of what can yet be done to this site
that could answer the question of the left turn
problem; the preservation of right of way,
sidewalk, and set back area; foreclose the
scrambled propensity for the interior traffic; and
maintain the arch.irectural harmony of the interior
community.
C/Schey is concerned by the functionality of the
site plan. The site is not being used as
efficiently and properly as it should be. His main
concern is the method the project is being pursued
through the utilization of the development
agreement. This particular method of doing a use
variance is legal but not appropriate. If these
uses are deemed appropriate to the site, then the
proper method of operation would be to submit an
application for a zone change to the appropriate
zoning designation and pursued accordingly.
The Public Hearing was declared closed.
C/Grothe disagreed with the concerns stated by the
chairman in regards to the development agreement.
He has a oroblem with asking the applicant to
request a ions change because the zoning change
would remain as a C-3 zone if the project is not
developed for whatever .reasons. The development
agreement is specific and requires changes of the
site. He would not totally deny the project at
this point.
Chair/Schey stated that his biggest concern is not
with the development agreement as an entity but
with it's use in this case. In essence what is
being done is using a development agreement to
approve a car wash in a zone that does not allow a
car wash. He is inclined to make a motion of
denial.
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C/Lin stated that a zone change creates a wider
variety of business or other types of commercial
centers, which could create more traffic problems
than we are faced with today. The use of the
development agreement is more favorable than a zone
change.
Motion was made by VC/Harmony, seconded by
Chair/schey and CARRIED for recommendation of
denial for the development permit.
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Grothe, MacBride,
Harmony, and Chair/Schey.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Lin.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None.
PD/DeStefano stated that staff will prepare a
specific resolution with findings denying the
project for the Commission's consideration.
ANNOUNCEMENTS: PD/DeStefano informed the Commission that the new
listing of phone numbers for all the departments in
Staff City Hall will be distributed to the Commission.
Planning PD/DeStefano explained that the item is a follow
Commissioners: up, resulting from a previous discussion, for the
need of including such items on the agenda for open
a. Policy Manual discussion.
VC/Harmony explained the need to codify particular
issues that have the Commission's consensus. If the
Commission votes on an issue, staff is better able
to send signals to developers that the Commission
has taken a particular position regarding such
issues.
Chair/Schey agreed that there are policies that
might not be in the code yet, would be beneficial
to staff to have the Commission's consensus in
writing. Staff could then advise the applicant to
be prepared on particular items because the
Planning Commission will request it. The Planning
Commission Manual could be modified to incorporate
those type of policies.
VC/Harmony requested that staff also include policy
statements for the Commissions consideration on
such issues.
Chair/Schey stated that when these policy issues
become apparent, the Commission will direct staff
to draft the policy statement to be adopted by the
commission and included in the manual.
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DA/Curley inquired if the ultimate purpose of these
policies is to eventually convert them to an
ordinance.
Chair/Schey 'stated that this, was not really the
intent. The ",ommission would like to have an
actual writing ::)f ssues that concern them, and
would like to be kept, informed of these issues in
certain circumstances,
VC/Harmony explained that the purpose is to send a
signal to developers of the Commission's position.
The developer can of course ignore staff's
recommendation and. still. apply, but he has been
made aware of the Commission's position and may
possibly respondaccordingly.
Chair/Schey declared that in the case of an issue
that the Commission feels so strongly about, the
Commission ought to recommend an ordinance change.
PD/DeStefano stated that this interim step is being
created with the acknowledgement that there are
many issues that just cannot , be addressed as
quickly as is desired.
Chair/Schey stated that the Commission needs to
acknowledge that this interim step is questionable,-'
as to it's enforceability in some cases.
VC/Harmony suggested staff and the city attorney
prepare a preamble that takes into account the
flexibility of these rules and allows that these
are general guidelines.
Chair/Schey recapitulated that the commission is in
consensus that the formulation of policy statements
is a good addition to the Commission's manual. The
Commission will direct staff accordingly as those
issues arise.
b. Discussion of Chair/Schey stated the Commission does not want any
current parking more compact stalls.
standards
VC/Harmony specified if the commission is
requesting staff to come -back to the next regular
meeting with a study, or a report on standardizing
these stalls.
PD/DeStefano stated that staff requires discussion
on this item. The new development code is looking
at parking quite extensively and will be ready for
public hearing in 4 to 5 months. Anything more
than an interim step is really going back to the
whole development code process.
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Chair/Schey directed staff to come back to the
Commission at the next meeting with a policy
statement that can be added to the Planning
Commission manual indicating the Commission's
disinclination to approve any further compact
stalls, and our inclination to see a great deal
more parking lot landscaping than that is currently
mandated under the code.
VC/Harmony stated that, at the legal session in
Monterey, he got the impression that there was some
legal binding which prohibits Commissioners to meet
with developers or even a situation of talking with
one another.
PD/DeStefano explained that it was a conflict
between just meeting normally with the developers
and where it falls into the Brown Act trap of
meeting with individual Commissioners coming to a
decision.
DA/Curley cautioned the Commission to understand
that when reviewing a project proposal, to always
keep in mind that the information received is only
a third of the story. As a basic -rule, if you are
uncomfortable with some situation of the developer,
either don't do it or make the Commission aware of
it.
C/MacBride stated that it would be very helpful to
have a consistent policy whereby either all
Commissions react and report it in such ways as our
requisite, or we do not react and presentations
have to be formal.
ADJOURNMENT: Motion was made by C/MacBride, seconded by C/Grothe
and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to adjourn the meeting at
11:15 P.M.
David Schey
Chairman
Attest:
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JameDeStef
Secretary/Plan, ing Director
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