HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/26/1990CITY OF DIAMOND BAR
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 26, 1990
CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Schey called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
in the Walnut Valley School District Board Meeting Room,
8.80 South Lemon Street, Walnut, California.
PLEDGE OF The audience was led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Vice
ALLEGIANCE: Chairman Harmony.
ROLL CALL: Commissioner Grothe, Commissioner Lin, Commissioner
MacBride, Vice Chairman Harmony, and Chairman Schey.
Also present were Planning Director James DeStefano,
Associate Planning Director Robert Searcy, City Attorney
Bill Curley, and Secretary (contract) Liz Myers.
CONSENT CALENDAR: VC/Harmony requested the Minutes of October 22, 1990 be
amended on page 5, third paragraph, to read "do dili-
gence"; page 6, last paragraph, to read "installation" as
opposed to "insulation"; page 7, third paragraph, to add
"Knoll" to "Rolling", and page 8, sixth paragraph, to
read as "the Los Angeles County Department...".
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Motion was made by Commissioner MacBride, seconded by
jCommissioner
Grothe and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to approve
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the Consent Calendar and the Minutes of October 22, 1990
as amended.
OLD BUSINESS:
Consideration
Staff reported the resolution prepared is in conform
Resolution of
ance with the direction given by the Commission at the
'Denial for
last Planning Commission Meeting of October 22, 1990.
Variance 90-0101.
Since then staff has had an opportunity to meet with the
applicant and the architect to discuss possible changes
to the drawings. The architect prepared a letter dated
November 131 1990, requesting an opportunity to speak in
regards to the matter. Staff requested to see any speci-
fic changes to be made prior to tonights hearing, so as
to advise the applicant, the architect, and the Planning
Commission appropriately. However, no new drawings were
presented. There is, before the Commission, a Resolution
of Denial and a letter from the applicant requesting to
be heard.
VC/Harmony requested the applicant be allowed a five (5)
minute presentation.
Chair/Schey, with the consensus of the Commission, per-
mitted the applicant to speak before the Commission.
Pete Volbeda clarified the original height denied by the
County was 48 feet, not the 35 foot height presented to
the Commission. He stated the six (6) foot variance on
the height could. be altered to three (3) or four (4)
feet, and claimed it would be much easier to work with
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the given shape as opposed to not receiving any height
variance at all.
James DeStefano,Planning, Director, stated the discussion
to find alternatives to the granting of the height
variance requested, occurred at the meeting with the
applicant three (3) weeks ago. Staff suggested to
redesign the roof, but the client was concerned it would
not provide the vaulted ceilings desired throughout the
home. Another concept suggested by staff was to drop the
house a few feet below the proposed elevation in order to
find a desireable medium from the 7 foot variance
requested. The purpose of requesting drawings prior to
the meeting was to allow for staff review and to present
an amended recommendation, or some other action, to the
Commission. The difficulty in the applicants
presentation is the lack of specificity as to where the
few feet variance will come from. Staff suggested it is
not appropriate for the Commission to have to decide on
possible options to variances at this particular time.
Bill Curley, City Attorney, explained if the Commission
has an interest in pursuing a redesign, the proper motion
would not be to go into discussion or analysis, but
rather to request a continuance allowing the applicant an
y opportunity to work with staff to find designing options.
The alternative would be a denial, if the Commission
thought it could be worked out without prejudice, to give
the applicant an opportunity to turn around with a
redesigned project.
Chair/Schey affirmed his view that any height difference
is therefore a variance and must be taken as a complete
package and resubmitted through the proper channels for
negotiations. He stated his inclination to approve the
resolution as written.
VC/Harmony concurred and reiterated the 35 foot standard
was adopted by the County after incorporation. He
stressed it is a needed standard and one that should be
enforced. He questioned the necessity of approving the
resolution without prejudice and inquired if the project
has been on the same application process since being
denied by the County.
Staff explained the applicant resubmitted a different
application and a different design than was denied by the
County. They maintained by using the clause "without
prejudice" allows the applicant an opportunity. to show
a circumstance that may have alluded the Commission
previously.
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Motion was made by C/Grothe, seconded by C/MacBride and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to approve the Resolution of Denial
with an amendment allowing the denial to be "without
prejudice".
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NEW BUSINESS:
Developmental Staff reported a developmental code draft was received
Code Status approximately September 5, 1990, and passed around to a
Report. variety of people. Many good comments are now being re-
ceived and staff is in the process of restructuring the
code. Due to the complexity of formulating zoning issues
to pertain to Diamond Bar needs in preparation for a de-
velopmental code standard, it is going to take more work
than originally anticipated. A document for the Commis-
sions review will be ready sometime in January, 1991.
Sign Ordinance
Status Report.
Staff reminded the Commission of the decision made at
the last discussion, concerning the sign ordinance, to
have staff work with the City Attorney to put the working
document into an ordinance format, preparing it for adop-
tion by the Commission and by the City Council. It was
indicated the document would be sent. out to a wide va-
riety of people to advertise a hearing tentatively set
for tonight. This was not done because the document is
not in the proper shape staff is comfortable with. The
City Attorney found many areas of inconsistencies ori-
ginally not noted and some concerns pertaining to defini-
tions which could cause problems from a legal defense
stand point. The reason for the delay is the concern on
how to implement and explain the document so the public
can understand it.
VC/Harmony questioned if staff needs direction from the
Commission.,
Bill Curley stated the bulk of the problem isn't the need
for Planning Commission policy direction, but for mechan-
ical cleanup of the document.
VC/Harmony requested staff take the initiative to rewrite
the document, with the knowledge that a simplification is
far preferable.
Bill Curley acknowledged the preference and stated the
mechanical problems of the document concerning defini-
tions is just one element. The key beyond the defini-
tions is the application of those definitions, whereas
the level of intensity, or lack of it, of the sign pro-
grams are as the Commission prefers.
C/MacBride specified the Commissions intent was not to
have an aggressive abatement of nonconforming sign pro-
gram. The attempt is to have an amortization program,
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discouraging a continuance of offensive signs, that would
eventually meld the entire program throughout the years.
Bill Curley inquired if the Commission has concerns with
the application packet. He explained the applicant must
depict every sign and every structure within a 100 ft
radius around the site. A complete monitoring of appli-
cations would be a nightmare for both'staff and the ap-
plicant. He requested the Commission give certain dis-
cretion to his office and the -planning staff to develop
workable processees.
C/MadBride asked if a study, relating to our Community in
terms of leader signs, has been done.
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Chair/Schey stated the Commission would leave it to staff
to formulate the application packet in such a way to gat-
her enough information to make a reasoned recommendation.
James DeStefano noted two (2) representatives of the
Ramada Inn who may want to speak in regards to the item.
He stated it is up to the Commission to allow for a pre-
sentation since it is not a Public Hearing.
Chair/Schey, with the consensus of the Commission, re-
quested the representative from Ramada Inn speak before
the Commission.
Jack Williamson, 259 Gentle Springs,Lane, representing
Ramada Classics, pointed out the recent down turn in the
hotel market also affecting Ramadas decrease in business.
The Ramada relies on all available advertisements to
generate revenues in Diamond Bar and keep a competitive
edge. He informed the Commission they are working Bili -
gently with staff to come up with sign alternatives to
keep within the parameters, be visually appealing, yet
attract people to their business. They will make a pre-
sentation in hopes to be considered a special interest
case.
VC/Harmony inquired if the plan for a Marriot in Diamond
Bar will go on through.
James DeStefano responded that information from the de-
velopers toward alternative land uses have been received.
The developer has considered the possibilities of office
buildings at the pad the hotel was previously proposed
and a new proposal may be forthcoming sometime in Decem-
ber, 1990.
Jack Williamson emphasized the fact the Country is headed
for more troubled times in the hotel business and stress-
ed they need as much help as possible.
C/MadBride asked if a study, relating to our Community in
terms of leader signs, has been done.
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Jack Williamson responded it is very difficult to find a
leader sign or to afford one. He explained most leader
signs are corporately sponsored, but this is not the case
with the Ramada. It is much easier for the Ramada to put
up something at one time, and on location.
James DeStefano explained there are strict standards on
what is allowable in urbanized areas. Commercial signage
is not allowed. There are two (2) elements against off-
site signage, which are the lack of billboard space, and
the Department of Transportation regulations.
Chair/Schey summarized the discussion stating staff and
the City Attorneys office will massage the document fur-
ther, distribute to the appropriate interested parties,
and then set a hearing date.
Staff concurred and stated the projected date for the
Hearing will be January 7, 1991 and the document will be
ready for advertising and review around December 7 or 10,
1990.
VC/Harmony asserted staff and the City, Attorney could as-
sume'the Commissions support to make notes on any major
changes, and advise the Commission as such.
C/MacBride upheld the importance the, foundation of the
document be as acceptable as possible from the beginning
to establish acceptance from the public, not animosity.
Bill Curley contended if the Commission is comfortable
with the signage concepts such as the density and inten-
sity of the signs, -then the document will not be altered
all that much. The difficulty is the trappings sur-
rounding it that make it work, such as the mechanics, the
application process, and the definitions. Those elements
need to be smoothed out to make sense of it.
C/Grothe stated his consent to postpone the date of the
projected advertisement of the document, if staff feels
it is not yet completely acceptable.
Chair/Schey related to the Commissioners to note their
comments on the draft and relay them to staff.
Status Report
Staff reported four (4) members have been found for the
SEATAC.
SEATAC from local colleges. They have met once with the
purpose of touring the site. They are scheduled to meet
again next week and will then meet a third time to con-
clude their analysis and provide the information to staff
to incorporate it into these projects. The Commissions
will then review it at a later date. The committee mem-
bers were approved by the City Council by staffs recom-
mendations. The committee is more of a task force rather
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than an ongoing commission and will come into play when
there is a project located within a SEA area.
VC/Harmony stated his satisfaction with the qualifica-
tions of the members chosen. He was concerned with the
fact they are all local people which could lead to the
possibility of a specialized view of the neighborhood.
He questioned why there was not someone chosen from out-
side the area, and why, contrary to the County SEATAC, so
few members were chosen as well.
James DeStefano explained an administrative decision was
made to keep the task force small therefore more manage-
able than the County task force. The goal was to gather
five (5) people but it was difficult obtaining qualified
individuals who were willing to devote the time needed on
the projects along with accepting the compensation offer-
ed to them. He explained the reason professional consul-
tants were not brought in was to keep the ideas fresh and
free of conflict of interests.
Chair/Schey suggested more individuals might have been
interested in joining the task force had they been offer-
ed enough compensation to justify the amount of time and
work being asked of them.
VC/Harmony inquired why the applicant hired the EIR
consultant, and not the City.
Staff explained the project is caught in the middle of
the City's incorporation, the philosophical changes, the
maturing of the decision makers, and not a process the
City would embrace now. The applicant and the EIR con-
sultant were told it will not be done this way again.
The SEATAC plans to visit the site without the applicants
agent, use the data from the EIR consultant and judge the
adequacy of the material. In the future, the consultant
will be our consultant providing the information to us as
needed.
,PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Environmental Staff reported the application is a CUP request to locate
Assessment & a mobile telephone repeater station in a public storage
CUP 90-0109 site located at 275 South Prospectors Road. The request
is unusual in that the property site is in a M-1 zone and
the application is for locating the repeater within a
storage unit which is a 2 story building. The unit will
be located in 2 adjacent units and there will be a 60
foot monopole located within the site but not 'In the
building. The applicant seeks approval of the unmanned
repeater station for the mobile phone at the storage
unit. The site is a 2.5 acre triangular shaped parcel
with an 8 foot block wall separating the property from
the building and a 2 foot parapet wall separating the
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60 foot monopole from thebuilding. There is a landscaped
embankment separating the storage facility from the free-
way. The condominium complex which lies to the southeast
is visually separated from the site by a wrought iron
fence and a row of trees. The site is virtually flat and
is located to the south of the Orange Freeway and ranges
from approximately 15 to 25 feet below the surface of the
road. Currently the City has two (2) repeater stations
or monopoles located at the roof of the Diamond Bar High
School shrouded by a Brahmas canopy and the other is on
the eastern portion of the property which has a DBHS can-
opy surrounding it. The monopole proposed is blue with
antennas extending from the top portion. It will have a
surrounding canopy with no proposed signage. The appli-
cant states the monopole and repeater station will not
interfere with existing TV, radio, satellite, or other
cable communication devices. The repeater equipment is
designed with a fire suppressant system intended to re-
duce the chances of a fire. The land use designation
does not prohibit this type of use at this location. The
land uses immediately surrounding the site are open space
and commercial, and will not conflict with the location
of the repeater station. Staff recommended approval of
the project with consideration of the conditions imposed
in the resolution.
Chair/Schey declared the Public Hearing Open.
Jerome Buckmelter, representing Los Angeles Cellular
Telephone, explained L.A. Cellular Telephone is a public
utility licensed by the FCC and the California Public
Utlities Commission (CPUC), with the responsibility of
providing quality cellular phone service throughout the
greater Los Angeles area. They have been doing business
for three (3) years and have installed 214 cell sites or
repeater sthtions. The project consists of electronic
equipment, which will not be visible, to be housed in two
(2) storage spaces of a mini -storage facility and a 60
foot monopole with small panel antennas attached to the
top. He pointed out there is need to provide coverage
and capacity to the City and the freeway travelers, and
stated it enhances commerce and adds a new dimension to
private communications. He explained cellular phones can
be the only reliable means of communications during major
disasters, and because they provide free 911 services,
the response time during emergencies can be significantly
reduced. He stated cellular technology is environmentally
safe and will not cause any interference. He explained
a metal pole of light blue with matching antennas'will
be installed and suggested eliminating the shroud. The
noise will be minimal with only a light humming of the
air conditioning units.
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C/Grothe inquired for an explanation of the temporary
structure installed at the site presently.
Jerome Buckmelter was unaware of anything presently at
the site but suggested it could be a testing unit to
obtain readings.
Chair/Schey asked if anyone desired to speak in favor of
or in opposition to the proposal. The Public Hearing was
declared closed.
VC/Harmony questioned staff if surrounding residents,'in-
cluding the condominium association, were notified of the
facility. He also questioned the level of noise from the
air conditioning units.
Staff reported all property owners within a 300 foot
radius of the property site were notified including the
condominium association. The noise from the air condi-
tioning will not exceed the ambient level because of the
proximity to the freeway.
C/Grothe challenged the necessity of adding another free
standing pole along the freeway, especially since the
Commission has been discussing eliminating pole signs.
He asserted investigating other options for location of
the pole and would like to exclude the provision allowing
microwave dishes on the antenna.
Jerome Buckmelter responded they need sole access to the
pole and locating the device on another pole becomes com-
plicated due to a necessity for separate easements. He
offered looking into other locations as long as it is
kept in the same geographical area.
James DeStefano concurred with the possibility of in-
stalling the device on an existing pole. He notes, if it
goes to an alternative location, there would still be a
need for leasing a small building to store the equipment.
Chair/Schey was concerned the issue would become compli-
cated by relocating to an existing pole because of the
involvement of a third party to obtain storage. He
stated he does not find the proposed pole objectionable
and views it not as a pole sign but more as a utility
pole.
C/MacBride concurred and finds the project useful and
needed. He would like to encourage as easy an accommo-
dation to this type of technology as can be provided. He
stated he sees no comparison of this proposal to signage,
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C/Grothe insisted the CC&Rs disallow homeowners to in-
stall small CB antennas on the roof yet, the Commission
is advocating the installation of a 60 foot pole, with
antennas 50 times the size that is also visually obtru-
sive. He asserted having the applicant find a new site,
using existing poles or buildings which would be less
obtrusive. He agreed the technology is needed but empha-
tically believes any new pole is not needed along the
freeway. He suggested moving the pole away from the
street and back by the freeway corner to keep it visible
to just the freeway traffic as opposed to the whole town.
VC/Harmony stated acceptance of the proposal if the app-
licant could accept a covenant, or restriction requiring
no microwave dishes or additional fixtures other than the
top unit.
C/Lin stated she does not object to the structure but
suggested the applicant explore an alternative location.
Chair/Schey pointed out with this type of facility, it
may be less obtrusive close as opposed to further away.
VC/Harmony recommended, since C/Grothe feels so strongly
on the matter, to continue the application.
Staff stated they will work with the applicant to find
alternative locations on this site or in the immediate
area with illustrations of the appearance of the pole
both on site and off site.
Motion was made by VC/Harmony, seconded by C/MacBride and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to continue the matter until the next
regular meeting of December 10, 1990 pending further dis-
cussions,between•the applicant and the staff on the po-
tential relocation of the site to a location somewhat
further away from old Prospector Road.
Staff reported the First Evangelical Free Church was
granted a CUP by the County in 1980 to develop a church
facility. The application had three (3) phases of con-
struction. The last phase, which has not occurred, was
to begin by the end of the tenth year. The applicant is
requesting an amendment to the condition within the exis-
ting approval that mandated the ten year time line. In
addition, over the course of the ten years, the applicant
has made some minor changes to the church facilities, and
wish to make some major changes to the final phase of the
prior approval. The staff felt it appropriate to get the
item on the agenda to maintain the time line and require
a thorough review of the major changes desired. The
changes are basically an increase of the sanctuary and
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parking accommodations. The item will probably be
presented to the Commission on the first or second
meeting in January, 1991, giving adequate notice of the
public hearing. .
Chair/Schey asked if the CUP expires today, or if it is
the beginning date of "the third phase, which would
thereby be negated due to non-compliance.
James DeStefano responded the statement of non compliance
would be technically correct. Staff recommended to con-
tinue the extension until the first meeting in January,
1991, in order to keep the permit alive.
Chair/Schey summarized the reason for the extension is to
grant a waiver of the condition for a period.of time.
C/Grothe inquired if the extension is for the third phase
or the entire property. He questioned if the conditions
of the third phase are not done by the tenth year, is the
entire CUP lost or just the right to build the third
phase.
James DeStefano explained the extension is for the entire
property which was split into three phases requiring con-
ditions by the third, seventh, and tenth year. He stated
his understandment of the CUP is that they would lose the
right to build the third phase.
C/Grothe stated his preference to allow the CUP to ex-
pire, making the applicant file a new CUP, so as to pro-
vide the Commission with control over building condi-
tions.
VC/Harmony asked the cost of reapplying as opposed to an
extension. t
Staff explained the cost would be $1600.00 minimum for
filing fees.
VC/Harmony claimed it would be more convenient for the
applicant to allow them an extension subjected to the,
lCommissions review process.
Robert Searcy stated the applicant is proposing to alter
the initially approved CUP and site plan.
James DeStefano reported the applicant is making signi-
ficant enough changes staff cannot take care of
�� administratively.
Chair/Schey noted the Commission will have the ability to
review the entire CUP and its changes when staff returns
with a recommendation. if the Commission does not feel
the CUP is in conformance with the current standards,
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that portion can be denied forcing a new application. He
noted if it did conform, there is nothing lost and the
applicant saves a significant amount of time and effort.
VC/Harmony asked staff the time extension needed by the
applicant.
Bill Curley responded, at this point, the Commission
would be maintaining status quo, allowing no additional
construction, pending the appearance before the Commis-
sion which is without prejudice to them or us.
Chair/Schey declared the Public Hearing open. Upon no
response, the Public Hearing was declared closed.
Staff requested till December 10, 1990, to sort out the
application and come back to the Commission with a re-
quest of the amount of time needed for an extension.
VC/Harmony suggested giving a 90 day extension to allow
the applicant sufficient time to respond.
Chair/Schey was concerned with the possibility of the
applicant beginning construction based on the letter
approving phase three, giving them the right to proceed
whether or not it is in conformance with the current
standards. He noted the requirements were for commencing
construction, not finishing it. He asked if any plans
for a permit were submitted.
Staff responded no plans were submitted.
Chair/Schey realized a plan check could not be completed
within 60 to 90 days and was reassured to allow an ex-
tension.
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Motion was made by VC/Harmony, seconded by C/Lin and
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to give a 90 day continuance to
February 25, 1991.
Chair/Schey made reference to Ordinance 25 adopted by the
City Council, and the memorandum by staff dated October
11, 1990 which enclosed Ordinance 25B, adopted by the
City Council on October 22, 1990, He was concerned with:
1. The aspect of the new ordinance which mandates that
each Commissioners post is a ficdum of a particular
Council Member. If that Councilman is changed, the
Commissioner is deemed having resigned and a new
Commissioner is appointed.
This would make the Planning Commission a purely
political animal. He questioned the objectivity of
this idea and thought the Commission should be
independent of the politics of the City.
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2. Setting the dates, these offices are initiated and
reupped, flies in the face of the reappointment of
a particular Commissioner by a particular Council-
man new in the office. This will create fouled up
office periods.
3. It dictates when the Commission elects it Chairman.
Chair/Schey was selected as Commission Chairman
February of 1990, with the intent of a one year
period. The Ordinance states the Chairman will be
chosen in the month of June or July.
Staff informed the Commission that each Commission has
been set up this way with respect to the appointment pro-
cess, the Chairmanship, or the terms of office. The ap-
pointment of a Commissioner is recommended by a Council-
man, and the removal of a Commissioner requires a 4/5
vote of the Council.
C/Grothe believed the terms should be fixed so as to
prevent quick turn abouts of the Commission.
Chair/Schey noted the elected board is a policy making
body is
and technically non partisan, yet political in
its
own way. The other boards, albeit is somewhat poli-
tical because of their appointment
by the. political ani-
mals, are there to do more of a technical job rather than
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a political job. Structuring the board as it is now,
each Councilman will have a Political- h f icdum-
a fin
ger in each board. In his opinion, he feltwith
it is not a
particularly good method
of operation.
VC/Harmony suggested one of the reasons the Ordinance was
created was because of a Commlssio ner who moved, yet re-
fused fused toresign
his position on the Commission, creating
a dilemma. The Ordinance, in his
opinion, may have some
technical flaws, but heerceived it appropriate ppropriate for
a
new Councilman to want to exercise some of his political
backing.
Chair/Schey- retold of the letter he. received from
Councilman Kim basically reinstating
his appointment as
Chairman of the Commission. He questioned if his '
term
based on the date he is
was initially ball appointed
based Y pp anted or reupped
Councilman
on Kims date of reappointment. He
pointed out this is
an example of the confusion created.
Chair/Schey stated he is
somewhat bothered by serving as
Chairman for another six (6) months without allowing
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another Commissioner g
r a chance to become Chair.
C/Lin inquired as to her position once Council Horcher
resigns.
James DeStefano explained the City Council has 30 days
from the time
of the resignation to either appoint a new
member or call for .an election. There is
a 90 day clock
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for the position of the Planning Commission, in which
there must be a resignation or a reappointment of the
Commissioner from the Council.
Chair/Schey _requested staff to find out the date his
Chairmanship initiated and when it will terminate.
VC/Harmony asked the mailing address on the agenda be
altered to read Diamond Bar, as opposed to Walnut, and
not allow the Post Office to dictate what is written on
our documents.
VC/11ar_,*1ony requested staff to coordinate the holidays
witn t;io Planning Commission Meetings in order to have
one (1) year projected dates.
VC/Harmony noted the memorandum of the Hillside Ordinance
adopted by the City Council, -deleted the provisions as
relating to density. He perceived the density formula
used as confusing. He suggested the Commission develop
and propose policy in regards to upcoming projects and
make them.operating guidelines.
Chair/Schey concurred and stated he was somewhat perturb-
ed to see in essence, current projects exempted from the
Interim Ordinance.
Staff stated current projects were not exempted but rat-
her they allowed projects with certain difficulties to be
reviewed at an exception standpoint.
VC/Harmony would like to have a discussion relating to
grates and driveways in regards to the Hillside Ordinance
to come up with standard guidelines.
Staff reported the CTP Meeting of December 13, 1990 was
postponed to December 29, 1990. The time of the commen-
cement of the discussion is uncertain. _
Motion was made by C/MacBride, seconded by VC/Harmony and
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CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY to adjourn the meeting at 9:56 p.m.
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